why do people on ILM hate "live through this" ?

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ah, I was hoping Nowell would get in on this thread.

how is this a patronizing statement?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 2 September 2004 02:12 (nineteen years ago) link

It just is.

Wait, am I using the word "patronizing" correctly?

(Also, I'm leaving in less than twenty minutes.)

― Nowell, Thursday, 2 September 2004 02:14 (nineteen years ago) link

no you misunderstand me.
I meant that you're someone young enough to genuinely like Hole without feeling the need to try to justify it to us bunch of snobs with a lot of nonsense.

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Thursday, 2 September 2004 02:23 (nineteen years ago) link

But why do you wanna be a snob? Snobs suck. I listen to lame shit, and I don't really care what anyone thinks.

― Nowell, Thursday, 2 September 2004 02:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Which is exactly why I was hoping you would get in on this thread.

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Thursday, 2 September 2004 02:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Mm-hmm.

Dammit, I know I'm gonna have to leave any minute now...

― Nowell, Thursday, 2 September 2004 02:32 (nineteen years ago) link

listening to LTT for the first time in a while, inspired by this thread...it really does hold up well, especially relative to 90's alt-rock in general (which for me always skewed more toward Pearl Jam than Nirvana anyway). "Miss World" has really grown on me over the years, I love the way it build to the first chorus.

― Al (sitcom), Thursday, 2 September 2004 02:46 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't know if I'd vote for it, but I'd consider nominating it for the 90's poll if it hasn't been already.

― Al (sitcom), Thursday, 2 September 2004 02:47 (nineteen years ago) link

i don't like courtney love very much because she wasted so much energy slagging off riot grrrl, its so backward! and this slagging-off is all over live through this. but i'm going to be perfectly honest and say right here that if i'd never heard hole i might never have found out about riot grrrl. but thats not all live through this means to me - the songs are great, they rock hard and courtney's voice is so blisteringly fantastically raw. i really need to get my own copy.

courtney introduced to me the idea that i could be a rock bitch, and the riot grrrls drove it home. i haven't heard any other hole albums. i had the misfortune of hearing "mono" recently and found it boring and lifeless.

― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Thursday, 2 September 2004 03:23 (nineteen years ago) link

>I heard that song "Teenage Whore" is good though.
Girls were very angry back then. <

This is my favorite comment on this entire thread, I think!

― chuck, Thursday, 2 September 2004 16:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, I loved that one too, Chuck.

― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:05 (nineteen years ago) link

what's interesting, is that the songs that everyone credits kurt cobain with writing were at least partially formed before they met."violet" and "doll parts" were both recorded at maida vale for john peel in 1991, and unless one of the first things cobain did when he met courtney was to write her a couple of singles, whilst also writing "nevermind" , i don't really think it seems awfully plausible. just a thought.

― laura joyce (snow white), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 13:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Xpost

What's so great about what I said?

― Nowell, Wednesday, 8 September 2004 19:12 (nineteen years ago) link

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