The Shining

yeah BL is almost a opaque as 2001 for me...been a long time since i've seen it tho!

Ah, OK, I see where you're coming from on BL. Makes sense!

Got the blu-ray of this today and am, frankly, amazed by the quality of the transfer and how it looks in HD. Watching Vivian Kubrick's making of documentary also opened my eyes about just how much was put into getting the look of it right; I knew that the interiors were all on set in Elstree, but it's so easy to forget that when watching the film and it looks utterly like a real hotel. I certainly hadn't realised that the colossal exterior of the Overlook used in the early outdoor scenes and during the snowbound climax was all a set as well.

There's a nice bit of interview too where Nicholson is talking about the actorly obsession with methods of different kinds and the quest for "realness" and when he discussed this with Kubrick his response was "real isn't necessarily very interesting".

http://www.jayweidner.com/ShiningSecrets.html

Here's an interesting article which proves that The Shining is actually a coded message from Kubrick, where he confesses he faked the Apollo moon landing.

Must watch this movie today!

http://www.jayweidner.com/images/IMG_0057.jpg
omg

Seven Apollo missions went to the moon, but only six landed. Six crates of 7-up.

Awesome.

http://www.jayweidner.com/images/IMG_0053.jpg

Jack, his family, and the Overlook Hotel, are trapped in the Cold, just as America was trapped in the Cold War with Russia. The stuffed bears, seen through out the film, are the Soviet Empire's symbol.

Symbolically the Bears seen through the film are also the representation of the pressure that the Russians put on the USA to get to the Moon. They had to fake the moon landings and cover up the real truth behind the flying saucer craft and machinery that the US government actually has created and employed since World War Two.

http://www.jayweidner.com/images/IMG_0066.jpg
http://www.jayweidner.com/images/IMG_0069.jpg

Danny is literally carrying a symbolic Apollo 11, on his body, via the sweater, to the Moon as he walks over to room 237. Why do I think this?

Because the average distance from the Earth to the Moon is 237,000 miles.

LOL

i have never seen this movie, nor will i ever. im scared shitless by it.

overlook hallway carpeting is so badass

The funniest thing is, I've read some "serious" analyses of The Shining that make equally broad conclusions based on minuscule details as the moon landing guy.

In high school, I was once at the house of Tim Daly (of Wings fame; his son went to my school & we were in an a cappella group together). On a shelf, surrounded by dozens of other VHS cassettes, was a hand-labeled tape titled "THE SHINNING."

I always think of that when someone mentions this movie; I wonder what THE SHINNING, as a different movie, could be like, and whether it would star Tim Daly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvkgKRMlp90

Gonna use this opportunity to repost the Physical Cosmologies analysis, which is pretty convincing and a damn wonderful read!

http://www.mstrmnd.com/log/802

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGMoBo9f40I

xp goddamit omar

The funniest thing is, I've read some "serious" analyses of The Shining that make equally broad conclusions based on minuscule details as the moon landing guy.
yeah there's one (which i think was linked to on ILX somewhere) that was fairly convincing in some respects ... but totally batshit in others.

oh xpost - that's the one i'm talking about, adam. kinda fascinating.

The funny thing about that Tim Daly story is that his Wings co-star Steven Weber went on to star in the Stephen King-approved TV miniseries version of "The Shining."

omg i never knew that -- that might explain what was on the tape, and why it was home-recorded! lol thx phil

Eyes Wide Shut was released on July 16 th 1999.

Stanley Kubrick insisted in his contract that this be the date of the release.

July 16 th 1999 is exactly 30 years to the day that Apollo 11 was launched.

I present this tidbit of an interpretation to show not only that Stanley Kubrick directed the Apollo moon landings but also to ask NASA to release all of Kubrick's Apollo moon landing footage in their original, glorious 70 mm film.

would he settle for a blu ray release

i have never seen this movie, nor will i ever. im scared shitless by it.

That fits, as it scares no one shitless while they are watching it.

I have seen the shining scare plenty of ppl oh wait it's dr morbius

thank you for this link, tuomas!

This explains why the previous "caretaker" was so pressured and stressed that he had to kill his TWIN daughters.

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Because the previous NASA missions before Apollo were named Gemini!

Here's another site with an incredibly complex analysis based on tiny details in the movie. For example, according to the site a commentary on the genocide of Native Americans is hidden in the food cans you can see on the background in the storage room scenes.

I'm not saying these analyses are invalid, it's perfectly possible Kubrick meant to hide those messages in the movie. If that's true though, it begs the question: if you want to make a statement on American history, why the hell hide it in cryptic background items most viewers are not even gonna notice?

Because Kubrick had OCD resulting in an extreme attention to detail in his movies?

Kubrick's daughter's documentary :

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4745727919325920852

Here's another page with some more links to interpretation essays:

http://theshining.20m.com/

http://www.wired.com/underwire/2012/01/documentary-room-237-sundance/

My favorite detail is how the carpeting changes after the ball is rolled toward Danny while he plays with his toys down the hall from Room 237:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2567539/shining_danny1.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2567539/shining_danny2.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2567539/shining_danny3.jpg

a MOMENTARY LOSS of MUSSSSSSSCULAR COORDINATION! a few extra foot-pounds of energy per second per SECOND!

Something must be in the air!

http://io9.com/5882985/watch-this-insane-breakdown-of-stanley-kubricks-hidden-narrative-in-the-shining

Using unpublished info from the Stanley Kubrick Archives as a key source, Kubrick's Gold Story is a film analysis that uncovers economic themes encoded in The Shining with regard to gold vs fiat monetary systems.

Strange, I remember 1980 audience laughing at most of the stuff the guy is surprised about here.

http://thoughtcatalog.com/2012/i-saw-the-last-showing-of-the-warner-bros-35mm-print-of-the-shining/

And though I've never come around to liking this film, it's a shame there are going to be even more "last 35mm screenings."

guess many of the Shining lovers here have never seen it in 35mm

O HAI

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/4530/shinning.jpg

<3 this movie so much

Every time I see that screencap I mistake the guy on the right for George Bush Sr.

guess many of the Shining lovers here have never seen it in 35mm

35mm or no, I would love a chance just to see this on the big screen at all - same goes for pretty much all Kubrick, I suppose, but esp. this & 2001. The only one I was around to catch in its original theatrical run was Eyes Wide Shut (which I actually rather like, but still..)

Every time I see that screencap I mistake the guy on the right for George Bush Sr.

that would go a long ways in understanding why Dubya turned out the way he did ...

morbz will sneer but the only Kubrick i've seen on the big screen is barry lyndon (it was worth it of course).

just remembered that I caught a screening of Dr. Strangelove back in lolcollege. My first time seeing it!

I saw it in 35mm but was 12 years old and don't really remember much about the screening itself due to having been terrified. Have seen it a dozen times on DVD and Blu-Ray since. I've seen 2001 in 70mm at the AFI, Lolita in 35mm at the Cleveland Cinematheque, and Eyes Wide Shut in its theatrical run.

The DVD/Blu-Ray of the shining still only contains the theatrical print, rather than the longer television version, which i don't think has ever been made available to purchase - just as the original, longer theatrical cut of 2001 remains MIA.

The DVD/Blu-Ray of the shining still only contains the theatrical print, rather than the longer television version

No, this "longer television version" was the original theatrical release! Save for the penultimate scene of Barry Nelson visiting Shelley Duvall in the hospital, which I saw on opening night but was cut by Kubrick after a few days and has never been seen again. THEN he further cut it AGAIN from 144 minutes to 113 after MONTHS. I saw this version once and it's total hash from my POV.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081505/alternateversions

OK, rereading Ward's post I don't know what the difference is, if any between "the longer television version" and "the original, longer theatrical cut" is. I don't think it was SK's practice to re-edit for TV (aside from the violence/nudity in The Shining for broadcast censorship).

ahh, looking at the IMDB entry, it seems that the "longer television version" i know (from watching it on britishes tv) is, in fact, the original long theatrical cut (minus that final scene.) i'm p sure, tho, that it's the shorter 'European version' that's on the DVD and Blu-Ray in the UK, thoguh again, it appears the american dvd/blu ray is the longer version.

so i guess i have to buy the region 1 dvd to get the longer cut

btw, did anything ever come of atom egoyan's plan to make an opera based on the film of the shining?

Strange, I remember 1980 audience laughing at most of the stuff the guy is surprised about here.

http://thoughtcatalog.com/2012/i-saw-the-last-showing-of-the-warner-bros-35mm-print-of-the-shining/

And though I've never come around to liking this film, it's a shame there are going to be even more "last 35mm screenings."

― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Thursday, March 1, 2012 2:11 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

ah shit, i had no idea that was the last ever showing of the 35mm print. i was planning on going too!