Come anticipate "The Dark Knight Rises" with *BATSPOILERS*

Hans Zimmer on this and that.

http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2012/04/27/dark-knight-rises-christopher-nolans-masked-ambitions/#/0

The plot and the production have been treated like state secrets, which speaks to Nolan’s now-notorious practice of message management as well as his yearning for old-fashioned movie mystique in an over-information age. The 41-year-old filmmaker is defiantly old school — not only did Warner Bros. fail in a push to close out the franchise with a 3-D release (as “Harry Potter” did) but here in the digital summer of 2012 the Batman movie is the only major popcorn project that was shot on film stock.

and

“Without getting into specifics, the key thing that makes the third film a great possibility for us is that we want to finish our story,” the filmmaker said of the script he co-wrote with his brother Jonathan Nolan. “And in viewing it as the finishing of a story rather than infinitely blowing up the balloon and expanding the story … unlike the comics, these things don’t go on forever in film and viewing it as a story with an end is useful.”

so he (SPOILER) dies?

Gets his back broke and it STAYS broken.

I would think it'd be impossible for DC/Warner Bros. to really let Chris Nolan follow their biggest hit with a movie where no one is audible and the hero dies, but then again, last year they made Green Lantern.

they've changed Bane's voice now anyway

does batman still sound like a muppet?

who's idea of fun is watching a film with a baddy who has his face and mouth is obscured for 2 hours?! i loved the first 2 films but .. man.
i mean i know that's how he looks in the comic and everything but still.

yeah man nobody goes to a batman movie to see a major character wear a face-obscuring mask

Lol Darth Vader to thread

I've always kind of assumed Batmang dies in this one ever since Nolan started emphasizing the movie's finality.

yeah man nobody goes to a batman movie to see a major character wear a face-obscuring mask

― some dude, Sunday, April 29, 2012 3:03 PM Bookmark

lol

Has there ever been a successful franchise where the hero dies? Capt Kirk doesn't count

Killing Batman just seems like a good way to cut down on repeat attendance

could the millions of fans who flocked to see heath ledger's final performance really be turned off by the morbid buzzkill of the death of a fictional character, though?

i mean outside of stuff with a predetermined longer arc like Harry Potter pretty much no series carries any serious momentum into a fourth movie or beyond, i don't see any problem with closing the door on Nolan Bats instead of leaving off with a "he lives to see another battle...but for how long?" ending.

i mean outside of stuff with a predetermined longer arc like Harry Potter pretty much no series carries any serious momentum into a fourth movie or beyond

ROCKY & RAMBO

how is the 4th movie following 20 years after the 3rd and making less money an example of carrying "serious momemtum"

i'll grant Rocky, though, the first 5 movies came out at pretty regular intervals and all made big money

Aren't they already talking about a reboot anyway? Something like how this sees off the Nolan take and then they can go a different direction next time. In fact, yeah, just dug this up:

http://collider.com/batman-reboot-warner-bros-christopher-nolan-producer/83025/

A year old and the initial date of 2013 has now been shot down but at the time:

Christopher Nolan has publicly stated that The Dark Knight Rises will be his final Batman film, and Warner Bros. is already looking ahead to the future of the franchise. As we reported last night, the studio is currently planning a Justice League movie for 2013 and Warner Bros. president Jeff Robinov tells Hero Complex that scripts are being written for Flash and Wonder Woman (the Wonder Woman project would exist separately from the upcoming NBC show). But most intriguing is what the studio plans to do with its marquee superhero, Batman:

“We have the third Batman, but then we’ll have to reinvent Batman…” says Robinov. “Chris Nolan and [producing partner and wife] Emma Thomas will be producing it, so it will be a conversation with them about what the next phase is.”

Two to one says something like this plays out. Nolan could kill off Bale-as-Batman easily and then any number of other possibilities goes forward -- there have already been rumors about Joseph Gordon Levitt's character in this new one assuming the mantle or whatever -- or even more likely they could take the Spider-Man approach and go 'fuck it' and just restart.

i just can imagine an exec saying "i think it was mistake to try and make a blockbuster where they killed batman" more than I can imagine ordinary people saying "my favorite batman movie is the one where batman dies". The JGL thing seems more likely, but that also reminds me of when they realized killing Hooch at the end of turner & hooch was a bummer even if they showed a puppy at the end.

maybe they just crack Christian's back and but still have him around to give JGL the go-ahead

that really was a bummer xpost

armie hammer was gonna play batman in george miller's justice league movie a couple years ago, but they never started filming. they got pretty far into pre production though

could the millions of fans who flocked to see heath ledger's final performance really be turned off by the morbid buzzkill of the death of a fictional character, though?

millions of people flocked to see the kick-ass batman movie that also had a great performance by an actor who tragically died after it was finished. i'm pretty sure you can see the distinction to be made between that and a superhero movie where the hero fails.

though if he does die, that does mean kiddie book spin-offs will be even more impressive

http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/26662097.html

Hahahah I still love that.

millions of people flocked to see the kick-ass batman movie that also had a great performance by an actor who tragically died after it was finished. i'm pretty sure you can see the distinction to be made between that and a superhero movie where the hero fails.

― da croupier, Sunday, April 29, 2012 4:32 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Fl

just like i'm sure you can see the difference between turner & hooch and the darkest big screen adaptation of the darkest of the big comic book heroes

in the sense that both need to play in the sticks, not really

don't get me wrong, this is the company that brought back Superman as a negligent babydaddy. It's possible they're doing something this dumb cuz a respected director said it was a good idea.

i dunno is batman dying inherently "dumb"? i guess i just don't see the problem. but let's just skip ahead to the part where we make a bet about whether bruce wayne kicks it and one of us paypals the other $20 on opening weekend.

oh i refuse to believe batman dying could be kept a secret till opening weekend

i mean, it's amazing we haven't seen a leak yet, but still

batman dying isnt the same as batman 'failing' it all depends on how its played - if the movie ended with him being murdered with a metal pipe and then the bad guy is like 'haha, owned', fade to black, audiences would be pissed - but the 'noble sacrifice in name of a greater good' often plays pretty well with mainstream audiences

of course i dont think theres a chance in hell that batbro bites it in this

Give it back to Tim Burton

yeah but it sounds better to say 'opening weekend' than 'when harry knowles is totally sure what he's holding in his hands is the actual screenplay' or w/e. it almost seems like kind of a no-brainer to me that the franchise that made a billion dollars off being the gritty realistic/pessimistic answer to other comic book movies could conclude by killing off the hero. not that i'm 100% confident they WILL do that, but it seems like a pretty obvious place to go.

the only thing burton should be given is a boxing about the ears

it almost seems like kind of a no-brainer to me that the franchise that made a billion dollars off being the gritty realistic/pessimistic answer to other comic book movies could conclude by killing off the hero.

no, there is a logic to it. it's just pretty bold move for a franchise that also makes its billion off toys, and a move that would easily seem idiotic in hindsight.

it's less bold when you consider that, nolan & bale declaring in advance that they're done with the franchise, it was going to be rebooted either way...

my money is that marvel's gonna send them all bouquets

will they stop making batman toys if batman dies? or only make 'dead batman' toys?

It's in the title, dudes. Batman dies and then all of Gotham watches his ghost rise into heaven.

what if BATMAN dies..

......but BRUCE WAYNE lives

food for thought

Two Face turns out to still be alive, movie ends with him deciding whether or not to spare Batman's voice by flipping a coin. the coin lands on a tabletop and just keeps spinning, cut to credits. SCHRODINGER'S BAT!

er Batman's life

maybe they kill him off but there's a "Batman will be rebooted in...THAT DARN BAT" before the credits

3rd Bat From The Sun

I also like the "Bruce Wayne listens to recording of his Batman voice, gets seriously embarrassed, retires" possibility

tails it is... tonight harvey dent fucks men!