racist jeremy lin espn headline poll

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dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:15 (twelve years ago) link

dayo, i feel like you're going easy on me because we're ilx bros. i want to apologize if i'm being insensitive

ploppawheelie V (k3vin k.), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:11 (twelve years ago) link

k3v, no harm no foul! I mean, tbh this is all kind of new to me too - this is the first time in my lifetime that the idea of asian american identity has been discussed on a national level - and a lot of bad stuff has bubbled up along with that, and a lot of good too, and I think it's good to get these things hashed out in the open rather than to wave them away.

flagp∞st (dayo), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:21 (twelve years ago) link

yeah... one of the things I liked about the last article posted above was how the author admitted using lame, self-derogatory racial internet IDs in a sort of defensive way. I know some friends like this, and it was hard to exactly spell out why they would do this - I would just shake my head a lot of the time when I saw another handle that used "chinklovah" or "aznballa" type stuff. But I kinda got that when you're like the only Asian guy completely around it gets... weird? Or I wanted to blame it on being in the south? well, this is why I don't write political articles

Nhex, Friday, 24 February 2012 04:03 (twelve years ago) link

Stories like this one are the reason fans devote so much time, money and emotional currency to sports. In many or even most facets of life, unlike Hollywood, the good guys don’t win and David doesn’t sling the rock that bops Goliath. Most people don’t even get the chance to play David or Goliath. Far more often that not, rather than an epic, Manichean struggle, one’s life is filled with half-measures, unsolvable or inscrutable problems, maddening inconsistencies and vast shades of grey.

So when a player like Jeremy Lin bursts on to the scene, each foray to the rim a whirling dervish of effort and improbability, and actually vanquishes seemingly far more powerful foes even though, as an extra added burden, he’s surrounded by the Knicks lesser (to say the least) offensive lights, well…one cannot help but feel as though his victory is truly ours, that he is we, finally acting with bravado where we had been timid, rising from obscurity and seizing center stage to become the city’s latest darling.

buzza, Friday, 24 February 2012 06:05 (twelve years ago) link

idk reference to whirling dervishes smacks more of orientalism than that

Nicholas Pokémon (silby), Friday, 24 February 2012 06:17 (twelve years ago) link

something about the words "whirling", "rim", and "smacks" in close proximity is making me feel queasy

Nicholas Pokémon (silby), Friday, 24 February 2012 06:18 (twelve years ago) link

the real crime tho is the really terrible prose styling

"whirling dervish of effort and improbability" wtf

Nicholas Pokémon (silby), Friday, 24 February 2012 06:22 (twelve years ago) link

second graf is one sentence with an ellipsis in it

Nicholas Pokémon (silby), Friday, 24 February 2012 06:22 (twelve years ago) link

and a parenthetical

Nicholas Pokémon (silby), Friday, 24 February 2012 06:23 (twelve years ago) link

only reason to write "he is we" instead of "he is us" is because you have some congenital fear that "he is us" is grammatically wrong somehow even though it sounds less stupid

Nicholas Pokémon (silby), Friday, 24 February 2012 06:25 (twelve years ago) link

"as an extra added burden"

pick one adjective plz

Nicholas Pokémon (silby), Friday, 24 February 2012 06:25 (twelve years ago) link

whose livejournal is this from anyway buzza

Nicholas Pokémon (silby), Friday, 24 February 2012 06:27 (twelve years ago) link

"Jeremy Lin is good at basketball therefore we are all Nietzschean übermenschen"

Nicholas Pokémon (silby), Friday, 24 February 2012 06:28 (twelve years ago) link

no interest whatsoever in indulging this guy with further critiques of his shitty writing, going to bed now

Nicholas Pokémon (silby), Friday, 24 February 2012 06:32 (twelve years ago) link

I think someone was trying to sneak one through.

However, there are some early mornings at work where I'll hope through the RSS feeds of the national headlines and some of the headlines will say something like "Loser Coach Gets Booted". I'll click on it to see if that's really the headline and of course it's something like "Houston Nutt To Resign At End of Season".

So it may have been temporary copy, but it's still pretty damn stupid both on a racist level and on a technical level.

― pplains, Saturday, February 18, 2012 4:10 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Here's an example of what I was talking about. It's not racist, but still borderline wtf.

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/6158/screenshot20120224at851.png

That link with the logo on it goes to this story:

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/6158/screenshot20120224at851.png

pplains, Friday, 24 February 2012 14:56 (twelve years ago) link

Oh, and this is just one of the Top 10 high school recruits. (Signed with Maryland)

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/nghapLZI0ZmywbJdh0fIzw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/sptuspreprally/Stefon-Diggs-Jeremy-Lin-Tweet-Twitter.jpg

pplains, Friday, 24 February 2012 20:28 (twelve years ago) link

EGG ROLL and DUMPLINGS!.

At first I thought he was being tacky about Chinese food until I imagined what the two look like together.

pplains, Friday, 24 February 2012 20:29 (twelve years ago) link

then you realized he was being tacky about Chinese food and genitalia

robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Friday, 24 February 2012 21:11 (twelve years ago) link

fooditalia

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Friday, 24 February 2012 21:18 (twelve years ago) link

Food and genitalia are separated in my brain on purpose, yes.

pplains, Friday, 24 February 2012 21:26 (twelve years ago) link

egg roll and DUMPLINGS! was made famous by jin

flagp∞st (dayo), Friday, 24 February 2012 21:29 (twelve years ago) link

I seriously thought that would lead to The Onion

wtf society, we are doomed

robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Friday, 24 February 2012 22:34 (twelve years ago) link

also plz plz plz tell me no one has actually said "ME LOVE YOU LIN TIME", that is horrifying

robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Friday, 24 February 2012 22:35 (twelve years ago) link

!!!!!!!!!!!!!

pandemic, Friday, 24 February 2012 22:35 (twelve years ago) link

ny post had LIN-EPT today which was pretty good

J0rdan S., Friday, 24 February 2012 22:37 (twelve years ago) link

DRIVING: This is part of the sport of basketball, but resist the temptation to refer to an "Asian who knows how to drive."

omar little, Friday, 24 February 2012 22:37 (twelve years ago) link

also wtf @ "YELLOW MAMBA"

really wtf that this had to be published

robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Friday, 24 February 2012 22:37 (twelve years ago) link

http://aajaonline.tumblr.com

mookieproof, Friday, 24 February 2012 22:38 (twelve years ago) link

i can imagine this being typed out accompanied every twenty second by a heavy sigh and a head shake.

omar little, Friday, 24 February 2012 22:38 (twelve years ago) link

I think there are a lot of ignorant people out there who don't realize assigning that color to East Asians is offensive. Any time some ol' rambler goes on about not caring if they're white, black, yellow or purple, etc.

And now this: I thought Taiwanese people considered themselves Chinese. They acknowledge that their land would be a part of China were it not for the communists. Cubans in Miami still consider themselves Cuban. Am I wrong?

pplains, Friday, 24 February 2012 22:40 (twelve years ago) link

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/49/Aja_album_cover.jpg

(And cool coincidence btw.)

pplains, Friday, 24 February 2012 22:41 (twelve years ago) link

also wtf @ "YELLOW MAMBA"

espn showed someone holding a YELLOW MAMBA sign in, like, lin's third game

J0rdan S., Friday, 24 February 2012 22:41 (twelve years ago) link

great article, but yeah

i can imagine this being typed out accompanied every twenty second by a heavy sigh and a head shake.

― omar little, Friday, February 24, 2012 4:38 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

goole, Friday, 24 February 2012 22:43 (twelve years ago) link

espn showed someone holding a YELLOW MAMBA sign in, like, lin's third game

I saw that on Google

I've been doing my usual "follow sport by reading standings charts/recaps after the fact" thing so I've missed a good chunk of the nonsense

robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Friday, 24 February 2012 22:44 (twelve years ago) link

age 15 racist jeremy lin

buzza, Friday, 24 February 2012 22:47 (twelve years ago) link

the funny thing about the YELLOW MAMBA thing is that it's a take off of kobe bryant calling himself BLACK MAMBA except whoever made the sign didn't realize that kobe was adopting the name of a real species and not calling himself "an african-american snake"

J0rdan S., Friday, 24 February 2012 22:47 (twelve years ago) link

yes but people have since riffed on the "____ mamba" thing

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 24 February 2012 22:50 (twelve years ago) link

fwiw i think i heard a piece on the radio where someone was in china interviewing ppl and his nickname there was 'yellow mamba' (but in whatever dialect they were speaking, obv, not english) and the reporter made a point of saying 'that is not considered an offensive term here'

of course it's bad/nagl here in the states but \(o_o)/

catbus otm (gbx), Friday, 24 February 2012 22:52 (twelve years ago) link

white mamba thing has been huge in chicago

Wild Flag Post (dan m), Friday, 24 February 2012 22:57 (twelve years ago) link

Black people don't mind being called black, though there are alternate terms. White people aren't offended by their term unless they've got some real burr up their ass about something.

But yellow and red are not appropriate colors. I know it's confusing because some are okay and some aren't, but that's how it works.

pplains, Friday, 24 February 2012 23:03 (twelve years ago) link

Signed,

A White Person Who Feels He Has to Comment Incessantly About Race

pplains, Friday, 24 February 2012 23:03 (twelve years ago) link

And now this: I thought Taiwanese people considered themselves Chinese.

Some do, some don't. It's safer not to assume one way or the other. Officially Taiwan is the "Republic Of China" but not all Taiwanese people are comfortable being described as "Chinese".

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Friday, 24 February 2012 23:26 (twelve years ago) link

great article, but yeah

i can imagine this being typed out accompanied every twenty second by a heavy sigh and a head shake.

― omar little, Friday, February 24, 2012 4:38 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

― goole, Friday, February 24, 2012 5:43 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

that's how I read it, as I remembered seeing almost all of those in an actual headline or article over the past month

Nhex, Saturday, 25 February 2012 00:03 (twelve years ago) link

And now this: I thought Taiwanese people considered themselves Chinese. They acknowledge that their land would be a part of China were it not for the communists. Cubans in Miami still consider themselves Cuban. Am I wrong?

― pplains, Friday, February 24, 2012 5:40 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

it's a very, very complicated question!

flagp∞st (dayo), Saturday, 25 February 2012 00:37 (twelve years ago) link

I hate to be all "I had a roommate in college", but I had a roommate in college who was from Taiwan. He considered himself Chinese. It's not like they seceded.

pplains, Saturday, 25 February 2012 00:56 (twelve years ago) link


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