Indefinite Detention? But I Have Soccer Practice at 4: U.S. Politics 2012

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one explanation could be that conservatives are more likely to incorporate their political views on a state in determining their opinion on the state so the whole wisconsin thing made conservatives 'like wisconsin'?

iatee, Thursday, 23 February 2012 16:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

Alaska and Virginia placements perplex me, too.

le ralliement du doute et de l'erreur (Michael White), Thursday, 23 February 2012 16:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

I think there are a lot of opinion variables getting mixed up and the poll would seem like it had more logic to it if it were limited to a certain demographic

iatee, Thursday, 23 February 2012 16:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

wisconsin: uh beer, 'that 70s show', v powerful cheese ad lobby, the packers. could be some partisan effects w/r/t the governor there.

minnesota: cold as hell, 'fargo', woeful & hateable sports teams. idk!

xps i think just throwing everthing together is part of the charm of this poll.

Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Thursday, 23 February 2012 16:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

haha oh yeah the packers, that's prob not a minor thing tbh

iatee, Thursday, 23 February 2012 16:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

in any case most people have very few concrete opinions on these things, like I am pretty sure my dad and grandmother do not have an 'opinion' on north dakota

iatee, Thursday, 23 February 2012 16:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

lol at the gender split on the Dakotas. Wonder if this has anything to do with awareness of anti choice laws.

Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Thursday, 23 February 2012 16:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

I seriously doubt more than 10% of america could tell you which of the two dakotas was passing anti choice laws

iatee, Thursday, 23 February 2012 16:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

what % could tell you which dakota was north or south of the other

Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Thursday, 23 February 2012 16:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

a decent %, at least 60

iatee, Thursday, 23 February 2012 16:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

a blog i work for did a series about "worst states" and we were all supposed to vote and i had no idea how to rate some of them. i have to have an opinion about arkansas? i mean get real

max, Thursday, 23 February 2012 16:52 (seven years ago) Permalink

haha yeah and like, max is a 'person on the internet' with 'opinions', like ilx is filled w/ people who are desperate for reasons to make long lists ranking things, most people genuinely do not have these kinda desires or view of the world so lots of polls that assume they do end up being nonsense.

iatee, Thursday, 23 February 2012 16:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

I nabbed some amazing fried chicken & pecan pie at a gas station in AR, so 9 out of 10

Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Thursday, 23 February 2012 16:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

I think most people prob do have 'an opinion' on california, texas, hawaii, 'new york', the place they live, the places nearby

iatee, Thursday, 23 February 2012 16:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

what a weird pie (xp)

(thinks and smiles) (DJP), Thursday, 23 February 2012 16:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

my ultimate strategy was to give nj 10 and no other state higher than 5

it still ended up in the bottom 10. well top 10.

max, Thursday, 23 February 2012 16:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

no joek i would try that pie

it's smdh time in America (will), Thursday, 23 February 2012 16:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

nj welcomes america's hatred

Puppenmeister Meisterpuppen (Eisbaer), Thursday, 23 February 2012 16:59 (seven years ago) Permalink

Ruth Marcus should read this from Ed Kilgore who has taken Steve Benen's spot at Washington Monthly when Benen moved on:

Do “liberal party activists” control the agenda of the Democratic Party? I don’t think so.

I must have missed the moment when the major Democratic candidates for president in 2008 (or for that matter, 2004) embraced the single-payer approach to universal health coverage that is undoubtedly popular among “liberal party activists.” I also failed to notice newly elected president Barack Obama supporting nationalization of the banks, or a multi-trillion dollar economic stimulus package, or reversal of Bush administration policies on surveillance, at the end of 2008 and the beginning of 2009. Obama sure did go to the mats on behalf of the “public option” on health insurance—in itself considered a major compromise by “liberal party activists”—when the deal when down on health reform, didn’t he? And hey, Democratic congressional leaders most definitely saluted when “liberal party activists” demanded crackdowns on or actual expulsion of Blue Dog Democrats who were voting against major party legislation, didn’t they?

curmudgeon, Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

*sigh* no mention of climate change/energy policy

erotic war comedy pollster (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

I found chicken fried pecan pie, pecan crusted southern-fried chicken & deep-fried chicken pot pie, but no fried chicken & pecan pie. All of these things look amazing tho

Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

I want all of the pies

Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

He continued, “This ‘tax policy’ is an example as well as today’s speech on his ‘energy policy’ shall be. Here is the bottom line, last night it took 70 dollars to fill the tank of my 2008 H3 Hummer, what is it costing you? What does it cost the president to fill his gas tank?”

iatee, Friday, 24 February 2012 15:15 (seven years ago) Permalink


robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Friday, 24 February 2012 15:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

Allen West is so dumb, I get the idea he thinks that Barack Obama himself has a gas tank. Not his car, him.

A Full Torgo Apparition (Phil D.), Friday, 24 February 2012 15:25 (seven years ago) Permalink,0,349579.story

Barack Obama is close to becoming the first president in at least half a century to finish a full term without making an appointment to a U.S. appeals court, considered second in importance only to the Supreme Court.

When the U.S. Senate returns next week, a new chapter in the fight over judicial nominations will begin, with the stakes especially high for the Washington, D.C.-based court that hears challenges to government regulations, including those on environmental law and civil rights. The D.C. Circuit, as it is called, is also often a springboard to the Supreme Court where four of the current nine justices served on the D.C. Circuit.

Obama's failure to put anyone on the 11-judge D.C. Circuit, where three vacancies now exist, reflects both rising partisanship and Obama's early priorities.


Senate Republicans blocked the Democratic president's one nominee to the D.C. Circuit in December, and the administration has yet to offer any new candidates.

curmudgeon, Friday, 24 February 2012 22:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

why should he bother, really. GOP will just block them.

Artful Dodderer (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 24 February 2012 22:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

holy wow, i didn't realize he hadn't filled ANY appellate positions

ploppawheelie V (k3vin k.), Friday, 24 February 2012 22:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

There is poor phrasing by the writer in that article. Obama has gotten some appellate court nominees appointed

curmudgeon, Friday, 24 February 2012 23:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah I figure he's referring specifically to the DC circuit

Artful Dodderer (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 24 February 2012 23:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

i bet an editor added that comma. fireable offense imo.

the "intenterface" (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 25 February 2012 00:48 (seven years ago) Permalink


the "intenterface" (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 25 February 2012 00:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

i have personal issues w/ commas

the "intenterface" (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 25 February 2012 00:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

i've given all i have but i'm still on the payroll

the "intenterface" (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 25 February 2012 00:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

whoa this is nuts! ANONYMOUS & WIKILEAKS vs. STRATFOR

cnbc says it's 'reminiscent a spy novel'

first reaction from a TPM reader is... more 'like newsmax'

(i'm super curious about these but tbh i'm kinda paranoid about reading at work)

goole, Monday, 27 February 2012 16:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

oh crap i didn't realize that newsday link was paywalled. sorry bout that.

goole, Monday, 27 February 2012 16:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

Could be fun (but it's wrong--hacker obtained stuff!). Partnering with Goldman Sachs, communication with Karl Rove, and a terminology memo containing stuff like:

A "Barium Meal" is defined this way: "When there is a leak, feed bits of radioactive (traceable, false) information to suspects. See which bit leaks. You will know who leaked it. The leaker will know you know. Livens up a dull day like nothing else we’ve ever seen. Bring the kids."

And a “Code Crypt,” in turn, is described as “the code name and control of a source in encrypted form. If this confuses you, it’s working.”

The spy lingo glossary is just one document amid an enormous cache from Stratfor, an Austin, Texas-based private intelligence company that counts government agencies and some of the world’s biggest companies among its clients.

curmudgeon, Monday, 27 February 2012 16:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

Rick Perlstein's latest.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 00:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

Here's the problem: Even if Obamaism works on its own terms – that is, if Sullivan is right that Obama’s presidency is precisely on course – it can't stop Republicans from wrecking the country. Instead, it may end up abetting them.

To understand why, let's look at Ronald Reagan. Barack Obama has famously cited him as a role model for how transformative a president can be. Well, what did he transform, and how did he do it? Here's how: He planted an ideological flag. From the start, he relentlessly identified America's malaise with a villain, one that had a name, or two names – liberalism, the Democratic Party – and a face – that of James Earl Carter. Reagan's argument was, on its face, absurd. For all Carter's stumbles as president, the economic crisis he inherited had been incubated under two Republican presidents, Nixon and Ford (see this historical masterpiece for an account of Nixon's role in wrecking the economy), and via a war in Vietnam that Reagan had supported and celebrated. What's more, to arrest the economy's slide, Jimmy Carter did something rather heroic and self-sacrificing, well summarized here: He appointed Paul Volcker as Federal Reserve chairman with a mandate to squeeze the money supply, which induced the recession that helped defeat Carter – as Carter knew it might – but which also slayed the inflation dragon and, by 1983-84, long after Carter had lost to Reagan, saved the economy.

In office, Reagan, on the level of policy, endorsed Carter's economics by reappointing Volcker. But on the level of politics, in one of the greatest acts of broad-gauged mendacity in presidential history, he blamed Carter for the economic failure, tied that failure to liberal ideology and its supposed embrace of "big government" (Carter in fact took on big government), and gave conservatism credit for every success. Deregulation and supply-side tax-cuts brought us "morning in America," he said. That was bullshit, but it won him a reelection landslide against Walter Mondale, Carter's VP, whom he labeled "Vice President Malaise."

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 01:02 (seven years ago) Permalink

buzza, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 01:33 (seven years ago) Permalink

holy shit Obama is really getting ready to enjoy himself this summer

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 21:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

Oh, look: Olympia Snowe, the one Republican who has single-handedly made numerous votes "bipartisan" is not seeking reelection.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 22:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

Correct me but I thought she and Susan Collins had merged into one bipartisan senator...?

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 22:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

Intrade Obama re-election is at $6.14. $3.86 profit if he wins - I really wish I had money to plow into betting on the election.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 22:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

Let Morbs be your bookie.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 22:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

I dunno about that Perlstein piece - he's right in terms of the legislative/negotiation process and how the GOP gets to move the goalposts to the right. Obama on the campaign trail, however, is all too fond of calling out republican ideology as extreme, painting the Democratic party as different etc. It may all just be empty rhetoric, but he does do it.

Artful Dodderer (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 22:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

so it's sort of a mixed bag. The GOP is also destroying itself by demanding this ideological purity, so it's not like it's a game they can just play forever - it's crippling them legislatively (they can't pass anything) and they are going to lose the next Prez election.

Artful Dodderer (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 22:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

god that UAW clip is amazing portent of things to come, Romney does not have a fucking prayer.

Artful Dodderer (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 22:51 (seven years ago) Permalink


talk is cheap


der Truthahn des Giftes (Eisbaer), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 22:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

good fucking riddance olympia snowe

ploppawheelie V (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 22:59 (seven years ago) Permalink

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