jenny mccarthy wants your kid to get measles: autism, vaccines, and stupid idiots

"Whoop It Up! with Jenny McCarthy"

― (thinks and smiles) (DJP), Wednesday, February 22, 2012 3:20 PM (2 hours ago)

hahaha

"Whoop It Up! with Jenny McCarthy"

― (thinks and smiles) (DJP), Wednesday, February 22, 2012 3:20 PM (2 hours ago)

dying

also thread title change?

NO.

aww

it is p lol tho

lol dan

Can't we just give these people hologram bracelets that protect infants from autism. btw these bracelets only work in conjunctions with innoculation

Brilliant.

They also allow us to identify children whose parents we wish to avoid.

More Doctors 'Fire' Vaccine Refusers

Families Who Reject Inoculations Told to Find a New Physician; Contagion in Waiting Room Is a Fear

^^^last attending did that with a fam.

Super Bowl measles outbreak: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/2012/02/measles-outbreak-in-indiana.html

oh my god

I am not sure how Gardasil came up in conversation at work today, but it did. OMG vaccinating 9 year olds! And boys!

New girl: "There have been deaths from it!"

Me: "I bet more people have died from cancer."

Or the deaths from Aspirin, Tylenol, etc

btw there have not been deaths from it

Thirty four of the total death reports have been confirmed and 37 remain unconfirmed due to no identifiable patient information in the report such as a name and contact information to confirm the report. A death report is confirmed (verified) after a medical doctor reviews the report and any associated records. In the 34 reports confirmed, there was no unusual pattern or clustering to the deaths that would suggest that they were caused by the vaccine and some reports indicated a cause of death unrelated to vaccination.

Turns out that among 40 million vaccinations, you might have a few people who die.

WAHT?

ppl die everyday

Yeah! Among 40 million people, any particular 40 dying is... not that statistically significant and doesn't really amount to a correlation.

Like if I took 40 million teens that drank milkshakes, probably 40 would have died

ban milkshakes imo

PEOPLE DIE??????

:(

btw of those 40 million milkshake-drinking teens, some were autistic

makes you think

This is not the first work conversation I have had where people have been concerned about the side effects of Gardasil. "We don't know what the long term effects are!!"

Sigh.

Yes we do. You don't get HPV.

you know i said the same thing about the introduction of diet coke 'THERE HAVE BEEN NO LONG TERM STUDIES'. i was fucking right.

One of the girls also said "we just don't know!!" about the world ending in 2012.

I'm amazed at the backwards thinking behind those that avoid the chicken pox vaccine. "We used to get chicken pox all the time, and we all turned out fine, so I'm just going to let my kids get chicken pox." Of course, this doesn't take into account the young, old or otherwise imuno-compromised, but fuck them, right? The fact that the pox vax may or may not actually work is secondary to the selfish impulse behind avoiding it.

my BFF since like 5th grade has a son with autism and she is also in her final year of finishing a degree that will make her a ASD councilor. For her final year she actually has to work as a councilor. 3 things she has learned:
1. Jenny McCarthy is a fucking asshole
2. Parents of ASD kids. Also assholes.
3. Agressive ASD can be triggered by 2 y/o vaccinations but that shit is already there. Its only TRIGGERED.

Triggered? Or just coincidental manifestation? I don't see how anyone can prove something was triggered.

Unless you had two subjects you knew had ASD, and one had it triggered, and one didn't. Which of course is something of a paradox.

BTW her 5 y/o with ASD is one of the smartest kids i know. EMBRACE THIS SHIT PEOPLE.

Having chicken pox was one of the most miserable experiences of my life; I would literally have committed murder if someone had told me it would have cured me of it. I can't imagine avoiding anything that would shield a child from it.

well a genetic predisposition can by triggered by most anything. Schizophrenics get triggered, addiction gets triggered etc etc. its their biology. ASD too gets triggered in one of a trillion ways.

Also she made a smart decision to delay vaccinations. Not that he didnt get them they just spaced them out a little more instead of oh hey youre two lets give you 5 needles at once.

shit lies dormant and then it gets triggered and goes bananas. IE nothing CAUSES ASD.

I have no doubt that things can trigger things. I just don't see how your friend determined that ASD could be triggered by 2 year old vaccinations. Because there's no control in the "experiment," there's no way to know whether it would have manifested itself, anyway.

I had chicken pox at 16 and it was a terrible experience. From what I understand (not a medical genius), having chicken pox that late in life means that it is actually easier to contract it again later on. The later you get it, the more dangerous it is. So thanks for not getting chicken pox vaccines kids.

Xpost a genetic predisposition is not the same as saying you have something.

Plus, chicken pox immunity often wears off, vaccine or no. So old people run the risk of some serious shit. Also, I have friends who had shingles, which apparently suuuuuuuucks.

I think I was in the first batch of people in the US to get the chicken pox vaccine after making it to 14 without catching it

woo

My mom had shingles and, to put it mildly...yeah. Let's just say that based on my dad's description of how it affected her I'm kinda glad I wasn't there to see it.

I have had shingles (yay being imuno-compromised), and it is the WORST. Extreme pain, takes a while to go away, and even now after having had it seven years ago I will get aches and pains in the shoulder that was affected by it.

my grandfather had shingles IN HIS EYE for way too long

I didn't even know you could get it in your eye! That sounds like one of the most painful experiences imaginable.

Also: the treatment for shingles is Valtrex, and since I know my pharmacist knows me pretty well when I went in to pick it up I felt like I had to let everyone know that I did not have herpes.

I just googled some profoundly unhappy images.

My mom had some sort of skin irritation that was nerve-related and apparently some other random non-shingles, non-herpes simplex virus. I guess Valtrex works on that, too.

Josh, I dont know. I havent been studying this shit for years like she has. My older brother is schizophrenic and was fine until he reached 17 and then lost his shit. Who knows why. But it was there all along. dormant. I dont think its unbelievable.

I mean ruling genetics out is ridiculous

Sure, events or aging or a number of things could be what causes something like that to show up. I don't know that there has to necessarily be a "trigger" per se, but there's definitely some instances where there's a strong correlation.

Autistic spectrum signifiers showing up in kids post-vaccination is kind of a red herring, because from what I have read, a lot of those things generally show up around that age, anyway.