The Fifth Annual Coint and Plick Poll for Best Video Games of 2011 - Part One: 74-109

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ok this condo game is kinda dope

Nhex, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 19:28 (twelve years ago) link

EZ Snappin Biggest Disappointment:
A tie between Assassins Creed: Revelations and Ico & Shadow of the Colossus Collection HD

If I hadn't played Assassins Creed:Revelations then the incredibly shitty controls and cameras in the Team Ico reissues would have been my pick. I never had a PS2, so was psyched that these "classics" would be coming out. They are beautiful, and I can't wait till my next NYC trip so I can see forks play them. If I had kept fighting with the games any longer I would have needed a new controller because mine would have been in a million pieces. However, I did play the latest Assassins Creed and man, did they fuck it up.

I love Assassins Creed 2 and Brotherhood; though AC2 had the best locales, Brotherhood's refined combat and assassin recruits were welcome additions. AC:R takes those two further, but then adds in tower defense minigames. I don't know about you, but when I think about the best part of the Assassins Creed series I think top down real-time strategy gameplay. Come the fuck on people! And the only way to avoid this after the mandatory introduction mission is to run around bribing and killing dudes in a strict (but nebulous) countdown after claiming an area. Fuck you and your generic Constantinople which makes it impossible for me to tell where I am without the minimap. Screw you and your bombs I never used, because nothing is subtler than a dude lobbing grenades. And, if that wasn't enough, there are some incredibly poorly done first person memory unlock missions for Desmond the modern day monkey to got through, because again, first person perspective and crappy puzzle platforming are the hallmarks of Assassins Creed. Unfortunately, I'm thoroughly invested with the story so played this all the way through to find out that, yes, you get the endings for Altair and Ezio but the overall story doesn't advance at all! (Note: maybe Desmond's story advanced; I gave up on his memories halfway through the second poorly designed and poorly controlling segment) Seriously, this wasn't flogging a dead horse, this is skinning it, stuffing it, putting it on wheels and pushing it over a cliff.

little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 23:27 (twelve years ago) link

Reading that again and I think the fact that I really didn't like Assassin's Creed much came through okay.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 23:36 (twelve years ago) link

come on - a tie between that and Ico HD?

Mordy, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 23:37 (twelve years ago) link

I'm sorry, Ico controls like ass. Pretty as hell, and I do want to watch someone play it, but I didn't like playing it at all.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 23:39 (twelve years ago) link

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#109: Shadows of the Damned – 360 / PS3 – 5 pts - 1 vote
Official Game Site
http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/images/9/2010/11/damned.jpg
Gamasutra
Metacritic
Gametrailers

forksclovetofu: This was a very late addition to my list that caught me completely off guard. My experience both with SUDA and Resident Evil is consistently meh; both seem to take their twisted world view seriously. What a treat to find a ridiculous, beautifully conceived world populated by B-movie characters with C-movie dialogue. This is the equivalent of a drive-in movie that you play. So dumb! So fun! So unlikely I’ll ever finish it!

jjjusten: On the plus side, its definitely a genuine Suda 51 thing: lots of completely insane decisions and ideas. The times where it really works is totally rewarding and its far more playable in the conventional sense than No More Heroes ever was. Environments are really interesting, and the visual design in general is fantastic. The points where the game steps outside of itself and does meta commentary on how the main character is an idiot all really work, including an amazing section where Garcia (the main character) is reading a book aloud and struggling to make it through some of the longer words. The voice acting in this is about as good as it gets. Shadows also never becomes boring; the pacing is top-notch. The use of puzzles, some of which are among the best (not hardest) I’ve seen in a long time, is almost revolutionary.
BUT
The sense of humor is juvenile in the extreme, which sometimes works, but when you’ve heard Garcia say "TASTE MY BIG BONER!!" seventy times in a row it really starts to wear on you. It also falls victim to some brain destroying mistakes wrt to save point placement and unskippable cutscenes, not to mention the dreaded “timed run away while dodging obstacles, oh you couldn’t? so do this section 50 times in a row” issue. There are times where the controls are weirdly unresponsive, always at the worst and most crucial points. And make no mistake, this game is mercilessly hard in spots, even at the lowest difficulty level, so the great setpiece moments seem to go by too quickly while the grindy shit can take up 30 minutes of furious yelling. Weirdly, the ending is really unimaginative and uninspired and seems like a somewhat generic ghostwritten section given all the great writing that came before.. I have significant suspicions that the last 30 minutes might have been taken out of Sudas hands. It’s that bland and out of character

Unless you are a glutton for punishment, there is no replay value here; it just opens up harder difficulty levels. Shadows is well worth a rental (or a cheap purchase) and paradoxically its still probably one of the best games I have played this year, but its going back to Gamestop for a swap because I cant imagine popping it in again any time in the near future. For all the great “show your friends this crazy shit” possibilities, the savepoint system doesn’t allow you to go back to specific points; its an autosave only once through and done thing. If I had a bunch of friends to swap games with, I would force this on all of them. It’s the sort of game that you really want other people to play. It is in the wheelhouse of lots of my favorite off-kilter games (MadWorld, House of the Dead, Deadly Premonition, Bulletstorm, etc) but its defiantly unbroken which, in some ways, makes it less likeable.

Like I said, it’s complicated.

little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 23:54 (twelve years ago) link

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#109: Sid Meier’s Pirates! – iOS – 5 pts - 1 vote
Official Game Site
http://screens.latestscreens.com/showrandomscreenshot.php?lcname=sidmeierspirates&lcplatform=
Metacritic
Touch Arcade Review

Euler: iOS gaming was where it was at for me in 2011, mostly for practical reasons: I'm on the road a bunch and don't get much more than an hour a day of console time even when I'm at home. But my iPod & iPad are with me always. Also I AM A CHEAPASS and don't buy new console game. In 2011 I spent most of my console time playing Assassin's Creed & Tales of Vesperia & the Saboteur & Dragon Age: Origins. Why? Because they were cheap and looked and played great!

jamescobo: Okay, the touchscreen controls for the iPad version of Pirates can officially suck it. Ditto for the relentless loading times.

little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 23:55 (twelve years ago) link

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#109: Streetpass– 3DS – 5 pts - 1 vote
Official Game Site
http://www.vooks.net/images/video_streetpass.jpg
”World of Walkcraft”
Metacritic
Streetpass NYC
Ian F: I don't think there's ever been a game before that I would only recommend if you have live in a major city (and preferably have a daily commute on the train), but that's the case for this one. The bit within the game is just enough of a game to be fun, and short enough to easily be played on the same commutes, but the real fun game is going in search of other 3DSes, or the mystery when that green light on the 3DS lights up and you try to work out who else around you it was based on a Mii and the minimal information ever-protective Nintendo allow you to share. Getting the Tube to various places suddenly becomes a game in itself, keeping the 3DS batteries alive throughout events where there will be a lot of people a strategic struggle.

little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 23:55 (twelve years ago) link

i don't think i voted for this xp, but i have what to say about Pirates!:

amazing. i playd the original back in the day, but it feels like Pirates! was a game waiting for iOs touch screen to really glow. The pirate ship battles unfortunately worse on touchscreen but everything else is better. especially swordplay which is amazing swiping this way and that riposting, and dancing which is also mechanically improved. a really inspired update of the game (if only they did ship combat control better too - only blemish imho).

Mordy, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 23:56 (twelve years ago) link

I'm with Mordy's: I'm the pirates voter but ship combat's a drag, slow & awkward. But I'd never played it before this take on it & it's been great fun.

Euler, Thursday, 23 February 2012 03:01 (twelve years ago) link

nice to see someone repping for Shadows of the Damned... I'm a Suda 51 lover, but never got around to it, hopefully I can grab it on the cheap this year

Nhex, Thursday, 23 February 2012 03:28 (twelve years ago) link

gamefly is selling it for 18 dollars

little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 23 February 2012 04:56 (twelve years ago) link

hmmm.... damn you forks! :P maybe, maybe

Nhex, Thursday, 23 February 2012 05:12 (twelve years ago) link

ok u bastards i will be downloading the full version of monsters ate my condo once i get home

Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:03 (twelve years ago) link

monsters ate your resolve.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:05 (twelve years ago) link

I get too antsy when I place MAMC.

Jeff, Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:07 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, it's a stress game for me too. looks good though!

little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:13 (twelve years ago) link

so forks did you end up being the voter for shadows of the damned? or did i vote for it?

Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago) link

that was me

little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:25 (twelve years ago) link

huh i should have thrown that one a bone too. too many good games this year!

Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:27 (twelve years ago) link

hey jjj I was gonna gift you MAMC for yr birthday ;_;

(thinks and smiles) (DJP), Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:29 (twelve years ago) link

well i havent bought it yet so. uh. surprise?

Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:31 (twelve years ago) link

Withdrawal has forced me to buy rage to pass the time you monsters

Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Monday, 27 February 2012 01:22 (twelve years ago) link

New games, plz!

Mordy, Monday, 27 February 2012 01:28 (twelve years ago) link

I swear to god 2 more days without results and i will buy the last Templar I swear to god

Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Monday, 27 February 2012 02:00 (twelve years ago) link

i won't let that happen
let's get a few in tonight and knock out the end of the 109's

little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Monday, 27 February 2012 04:30 (twelve years ago) link

Zora / Surfing at Work's Biggest Disappointment
Tiny Tower (iOS)

There are people who failed to get hooked by Tiny Tower. Had I been one of those people, I might have been tempted to bung it 5 points for providing a few hours of mobile diversion. Instead, I am flushing this game down the toilet of failure because I *did* get hooked. It seduced me and then, like a bad boyfriend, kept me hanging on too long with promises of satisfaction that never came good. Hour after hour of gazing lovingly at the game while it did very little, waiting for the rewards that were ever fewer and farther between, grappling with an increasing sense of disappointment and ennui... I briefly considered throwing money at it to try and raise the fun quotient (the gaming equivalent of a dirty weekend in Paris, perhaps), but realized eventually that this game just doesn't care about you or your feelings. It was never going to give back what I'd put in. It was with more relief than sorrow that I finally wielded the big delete finger and said farewell to my Tower's denizens.

little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Monday, 27 February 2012 04:33 (twelve years ago) link

Seconded

Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Monday, 27 February 2012 05:29 (twelve years ago) link

was too lazy for a hate-vote but that woulda been it

bnw, Monday, 27 February 2012 05:35 (twelve years ago) link

Tiny Tower is a great disappointment pick. I wasted so much time on that shitty game.

polyphonic, Monday, 27 February 2012 05:53 (twelve years ago) link

i only found tiny tower a few days ago but it immediately displays itself as 1) not a game and 2) just pure iv drip addiction -- it's like a chatbot without the nuance, that texts you, and it steals its art from fez, and vvvvvv, and basically it is everything that is the worst about """games""" on phones and i fucking hate it basically and i will probably look at it before bed. fuck tiny tower.

Alderaan Duran (Will M.), Monday, 27 February 2012 06:15 (twelve years ago) link

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#109: Super Street Fighter IV: Arcade Edition– 360 / PS3 / 3DS – 5 pts - 1 vote
Official Game Site
http://www.gamingunion.net/newsimg/super-street-fighter-iv-arcade-gets-evil-ryu.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULMahkIjBeE
Chun Li Recycles
Metacritic

Nhex: Getting the rhythm of those charge ultras is a little weird at first, but you can get it down. I don't know if I can describe it well, but it's you hold (DOWNBACK), then you go BACK, FORWARD, BACK+PUNCH, your stick/pad movement should be (HOLD), TAP-TAP-TAP. The easiest way to mess up that kind of Ultra is to "roll" the joystick inputs so instead of going right-left-right, you're going RIGHT-down-LEFT-UPLEFT-LEFT-down-RIGHT or some such. Open practice mode and turn on the inputs so you can see what you're doing.

little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Monday, 27 February 2012 06:46 (twelve years ago) link

I'm guessing yr pretty busy forks, but a week in and we're still not past #109! I'm worried I might no longer be on this earth by the time this thing wraps up.

ledge, Monday, 27 February 2012 11:40 (twelve years ago) link

I recommend more vitamin d

little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Monday, 27 February 2012 13:06 (twelve years ago) link

lol that wasn't the blurb I sent in for SSFIVAE. i liked the choice from the thread tho!

Nhex, Monday, 27 February 2012 13:50 (twelve years ago) link

I seem to remember from lurking during previous years that these results roll out pretty slowly. I'm not entirely sure why, I'm just getting antsy and trying to resist the temptation to go MORE MORE MORE QUICK QUICK QUICK.

emil.y, Monday, 27 February 2012 13:54 (twelve years ago) link

they do roll out slowly, but we usually got a few games every day... since there's well over 100 it still took over a month

Nhex, Monday, 27 February 2012 14:33 (twelve years ago) link

about a blob was my vote. i don't have much to say about it. it's sort of a katamari platformer (but not as good as that sounds).

the acquisition and practice of music is unfavourable to the health of (abanana), Monday, 27 February 2012 15:13 (twelve years ago) link

i was thinking about picking up a version of SSF4, what's the difference between the arcade edition and the regular?

o _o⃑ (diamonddave85), Monday, 27 February 2012 17:06 (twelve years ago) link

No point in getting any version besides the Arcade Edition, has the newest tweaks, the most characters, the most stages, etc. It's the third version, after Street Fighter IV and Super Street Fighter IV.

Nhex, Monday, 27 February 2012 17:50 (twelve years ago) link

AE has 4 more characters (using only one new model) and an intentional unbalancing of the characters that they have now balanced out again through a patch.

the acquisition and practice of music is unfavourable to the health of (abanana), Monday, 27 February 2012 22:41 (twelve years ago) link

i try to tell forks every year that he shouldn't post every single game that gets votes but he don't listen what can ya do :/

bnw, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 00:24 (twelve years ago) link

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bnw, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 00:25 (twelve years ago) link

i was gonna say. how many ppl even voted?

goole, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 01:45 (twelve years ago) link

Guys this is a really confusing thread for the layman

dollar eye twinkling (admrl), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 03:40 (twelve years ago) link

New highscore: Got 30,895,214,673 on M.A.M.C.

Mordy, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 04:15 (twelve years ago) link

my final comment would be to take a tip from how the action movie results were presented. nice and neat without a bunch of pointless links and youtube videos. personally have zero use for any of that.

bnw, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 04:16 (twelve years ago) link

Bah whatever, I like the presentation forks does, I just hunger for mooooore

Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 04:39 (twelve years ago) link


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