um these days that is probably exactly what pop metal is going to sound like
― (thinks and smiles) (DJP), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 16:39 (twelve years ago) link
Haha forgive my metallic ignorance.
― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
Is this album not significantly more experimental than School of Seven Bells? Not a virtue in itself, obviously, but that seems like a big part of the appeal in this case. It would take some doing to pin down exactly how this is so. Might even be more to do with the arrangements than with the compositions, but I feel like this album involves a pretty original framework for making music. Really like the drums and guitar, so there's a bit of a rock thing to it, definitely, but as Nitsuh said in his column last week, there is that "passing urge" again!
― timellison, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 22:56 (twelve years ago) link
The new School of Seven Bells album is better than this album, but I feel it would be very inconsistent of me to apply some kind of "only one artist in this sub-genre at a time" rule given my general approach to (in particular) sub-genres of dance music.
i am not enjoying this album at all, it sounds like the kind of stuff careless talk costs lives writers swore up and down was "pop" (maybe even "perfect pop") a decade ago.
That kind of thing annoys me too - aerosmith and matt dc also generally otm on this issue.
However I haven't seen any claims made for Frankie Rose along these lines.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 23:40 (twelve years ago) link
To put it another way: should I hate Raphael Saadiq because it's the kind of stuff careless talk costs lives writers (or maybe not them specifically, just stupid critics in general) praised for being "real R&B" a decade ago?
I get disgruntlement at wrongheaded judgment-laden critical approaches to music, and I also get how it bleeds over into to disguntlement towards the music itself but, like, what feels like a battle trench in one decade will often just look like a curious patch of earth in the next.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 23:43 (twelve years ago) link
Ha, finding myself feeling a little rankled at the humanness of this album not being prized in the comparison to SVIIB's gauziness, I guess.
― timellison, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 23:56 (twelve years ago) link
[this music] reminds me of [that music] ≠ judging frankie rose based on critical approaches, as i haven't seen any. plenty of other things i was annoyed about too.
― lex pretend, Thursday, 23 February 2012 00:18 (twelve years ago) link
Well then, what, in itself, was wrong with the music that ctcl swore up and down was perfect pop?
actually i'm not even sure what specific music this is now. I'm having a bit of a blank trying to remember what filled in the shoegaze-pop category in those years. BRMC were too (self-consciously) "rock" I would think.
though I guess frankie rose is like what I always vaguely imagined masonic boom projects must sound like.
― Tim F, Thursday, 23 February 2012 00:23 (twelve years ago) link
it was just a vague handwavey reminder, i can't be bothered to flesh it out when i criticised frankie rose more specifically on several other counts already
― lex pretend, Thursday, 23 February 2012 00:29 (twelve years ago) link
something about how pat her melodies are and the bored-sounding smear of the vocals
― lex pretend, Thursday, 23 February 2012 00:30 (twelve years ago) link
my least favourite thing about this record are the drum sounds, easily, if they weren't so annoying it'd just be straight-up dull
― lex pretend, Thursday, 23 February 2012 00:31 (twelve years ago) link
DUDE. WTF?
― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Thursday, 23 February 2012 00:32 (twelve years ago) link
i wish i liked this more cuz i wanna buy the fuck out of that vinyl damn
― dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 23 February 2012 00:40 (twelve years ago) link
The wordless chorus on the title track strikes me as something that is very much not melodically pat occurring only about one minute into the album. Those are rock and roll chords that I don't hear much in this genre (again, since maybe Lansing-Dreiden) and she's singing in harmony over them, the harmony keeping things sufficiently sweet for the genre.
― timellison, Thursday, 23 February 2012 00:59 (twelve years ago) link
i did not expect lex of all ppl to exhume careless talk
― desperado, rough rider (thomp), Thursday, 23 February 2012 01:00 (twelve years ago) link
And then there's that pretty modal guitar solo in the same song. Again, really does not strike me as being pat at all.
― timellison, Thursday, 23 February 2012 01:03 (twelve years ago) link
Pitchfork review referenced the Cure and surely you hear that in "Know Me," but are those Cure chords? I don't think they are (unless they're similar to some Cure songs I don't know).
― timellison, Thursday, 23 February 2012 01:08 (twelve years ago) link
And did the Cure, furthermore, ever have drums as tight as the ones on that song or a bass line as energetic as the one in the chorus?
I find things like this to be startling, frankly.
― timellison, Thursday, 23 February 2012 01:17 (twelve years ago) link
"My blood sugar is low / this music sucks / you guys suck" vs. "I just ate an orange / this music is awesome / you guys suck"
― real life is no dave cool (Ówen P.), Thursday, 23 February 2012 01:25 (twelve years ago) link
I'd have to call this music indie-pop or something cause it's better than "riyl The Knife"
― real life is no dave cool (Ówen P.), Thursday, 23 February 2012 01:27 (twelve years ago) link
lol an ilm thread about a record on slumberland 2012
― 99x (Lamp), Thursday, 23 February 2012 01:54 (twelve years ago) link
"Night Swim" has a genuine Feelies groove, but it's a couple of other entirely different awesome things on top of that.
― timellison, Thursday, 23 February 2012 06:44 (twelve years ago) link
this is currently my favorite album of 2012.
― ⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 23 February 2012 09:28 (twelve years ago) link
Sorta sounds like the most restrained side of Stereolab minus the synths and communism
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 23 February 2012 11:58 (twelve years ago) link
It's more like Cocteau Twins or "This Charming Man" than The Cure, but you can hear similarities all over Seventeen Seconds and Faith.
"Primary" has TWO basslines that are just as energetic throughout the entire song, and the Boris Williams era of the band is pretty much defined by the precision of his drumming and the crispness with which it was recorded. Also, the beat pattern of "Know Me" is almost identical to "Close To Me".
― (thinks and smiles) (DJP), Thursday, 23 February 2012 15:09 (twelve years ago) link
Album just showed up in today's mail...this thing looks 100x as sweet irl.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:03 (twelve years ago) link
It's more like Cocteau Twins or "This Charming Man"
You know, what the chords remind me of on that song is Felt.
― timellison, Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:06 (twelve years ago) link
did any fans of this rec get into the Blouse album from last year?
― ~=(,,_,,):3 (electricsound), Friday, 24 February 2012 03:12 (twelve years ago) link
The Blouse album was okay imo, but it was never in constant rotation. However, I think I'll give it another go now.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 24 February 2012 05:22 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, I thought the Blouse album was best in small doses. I've only given this Frankie Rose record one listen so far, but it hits my sweet spot.
― Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 24 February 2012 16:33 (twelve years ago) link
I only have one song from that Blouse album - "Videotapes," which I loved. What are the best songs?
― Walter Galt, Friday, 24 February 2012 17:10 (twelve years ago) link
If anyone sees the pretty vinyl anywhere, can you send up a flare? It's not even on Discogs or eBay or anything.
― Walter Galt, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 15:50 (twelve years ago) link
this thread got me jazzed up for the album, but the few songs i've heard have been quite dull :(
― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 22:00 (twelve years ago) link
it's a pretty dull album
― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 22:01 (twelve years ago) link
I still like it, so whatevs. But it's no secret that I'm dull too.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 22:04 (twelve years ago) link
This is pretty nice actually, like most of it more than the single.
― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 22:06 (twelve years ago) link
Pulled this out for the first time in a few months. Nice.
― mmmm, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link
Underrated as fuck
― nostormo, Sunday, 28 April 2013 14:45 (eleven years ago) link
It holds up well as oppose to some other 2012 albums.
― nostormo, Sunday, 28 April 2013 14:49 (eleven years ago) link
New album out in September, feeling this: https://soundcloud.com/fatpossum/frankie-rose-sorrow
― pablum (Pablo A), Monday, 5 August 2013 18:13 (ten years ago) link
thanks 4 resoure
― ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Monday, 5 August 2013 18:34 (ten years ago) link
nice
― Moodles, Monday, 5 August 2013 18:42 (ten years ago) link
nothing's changed
― nostormo, Thursday, 15 August 2013 21:17 (ten years ago) link
Interstellar pt 2?Fine with me
― nostormo, Friday, 20 September 2013 20:58 (ten years ago) link
tighter tunes. really feels like something i would have really latched onto in early college
― illegalblues, Friday, 20 September 2013 21:48 (ten years ago) link
Make you feel young again?
― nostormo, Friday, 20 September 2013 21:50 (ten years ago) link
yeah, you could say that :D
― illegalblues, Friday, 20 September 2013 22:30 (ten years ago) link
I like the new one so far
― lucille baller (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 14:07 (ten years ago) link
new one is really, really good
― a dessicated quasi-tsunami of gut-busting cosmic - tech (DJP), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 14:34 (ten years ago) link
i love it
― ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 14:36 (ten years ago) link