really like that one
― the "intenterface" (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 00:12 (twelve years ago) link
heh, nabisco used that story in another thread to try and teach shakey mo about fiction
it didnt work very well
― max, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 00:57 (twelve years ago) link
(btw i dont mean to hijack the thread but schlump anne carson is great and i really love her and just bought her translation of euripides and am v excited to read it)
― max, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 00:58 (twelve years ago) link
Anne Carson is my favorite contemporary poet; her Bronte thing was fantastic -- in every sense.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 01:00 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i was just googling around, she sounds v interesting; the text of the glass poem in yr book is online here but i might get the husbandsy epic poem one that my library has, first. i have a two-man book club with my friend, she maybe fills a space, i am really already sold by EPIC POEM OF RELATIONSHIP DECLINE, which keeps coming up.
just to re-rail back to lydia davis, thomp, break it down's really the only one i've read much of, & i liked it a lot - it's claustrophobic and lonesome and sharp edged. just in case it's fear that it will be not so great/is first book-ish, rather than anything else that's held you back.
― john-claude van donne (schlump), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 01:02 (twelve years ago) link
oh lord i love lydia davis and i only found out about her from ilx quite recently, possibly in that thread where nabisco was trying to teach shakey mo about fiction.
i keep buying her collected short stories for people in hope of finding someone else who will love her. in fact it is my cousin's birthday on thursday, so maybe i will buy another copy of the collected short stories for her. i don't think she really reads fiction but i feel like she might look in the book by accident and find something she likes, maybe.
― inspector george gentlyfallingblood (c sharp major), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 01:22 (twelve years ago) link
My only digressive link here I swear, Taking a break from the Anne Carson Glass Essay link above to mention this is pretty amazing (writers get so exhilarated when they get public attention while talking to a friend about writing instead of writing)http://www.theparisreview.org/interviews/5420/the-art-of-poetry-no-88-anne-carson
― dow, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 01:32 (twelve years ago) link
thread where nabisco was trying to teach shakey mo
lol i half-remember this? anyway
did anyone else read samuel delany's paris review interview? it has the most depressing opening ever:
"Between the time you were nineteen and your twenty-second birthday, you wrote and sold five novels, and another four by the time you were twenty-six, plus a volume of short stories. Fifty years later, considerably more than half that work is still in print. Was being a prodigy important to you?"
― desperado, rough rider (thomp), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 09:23 (twelve years ago) link
haha that is the 3rd time on ilx that story's been written out, i remember nabisco talking about it and then it was also on another thread im sure. anyway its beautiful
― just sayin, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 09:51 (twelve years ago) link
I feel like I should read Lydia Davis. She translated Maurice Blanchot and Michel Leiris who are two of my favorite authors. She even tackled Swan's Way. I read upthread that she has longer works? Where should I start?
― JacobSanders, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 10:37 (twelve years ago) link
The collection Break It Down is a great place to start. (Most or all of it is reprinted in her Collected Stories.) Her novel, The End of the Story, is good but not the place to start.
You could also just start by hearing her read/talk in this Bookworm interview.
― Fonz Hour (Eazy), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 14:56 (twelve years ago) link
i keep buying her collected short stories for people
I have bought two copies so far and am about to buy another.
― jed_, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 15:09 (twelve years ago) link
“Example of the Continuing Past Tense in a Hotel Room”
Your housekeeper has been Shelly.
― jed_, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 15:36 (twelve years ago) link
i read this thread last night and then i bought the kindle version of collected stories and then i read her for hours and didn't get nearly enough sleep but today i am much too thrilled to feel tired.
― estela, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 21:19 (twelve years ago) link
estela i kind of cant believe youd never read lydia davis before!
― max, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 21:22 (twelve years ago) link
thankyou!
― estela, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 21:24 (twelve years ago) link
haha
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 21:30 (twelve years ago) link
i've just been admiring her face on google images, she has got exactly the right face.
― estela, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 21:32 (twelve years ago) link
yes, that is an excellent face
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 21:33 (twelve years ago) link
nice one estela!
the uk edition doesn't have the rough cut pages, thankfully. my copy takes a lot of flipping so i can see that would be a pain with rough cut pages.
― jed_, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 21:34 (twelve years ago) link
she has a face like shes the best professor on whatever campus shes at
― max, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 21:41 (twelve years ago) link
she has a face that seems like it can see the world and still be amused by the world and not unduly saddened by it
― 99x (Lamp), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 22:16 (twelve years ago) link
thats something i think about when i think about lydia davis, bearing witness without being overburdened with grief
since she was mentioned itt anne carson's nox is really fantastic and worth looking at
― 99x (Lamp), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 22:19 (twelve years ago) link
we should start an anne carson thread probably
― max, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 22:31 (twelve years ago) link
perfect, really. and not just her face but her fictions.
― jed_, Thursday, 23 February 2012 00:33 (twelve years ago) link
"Syr-ee, ah, o lah"?
― dow, Thursday, 23 February 2012 01:12 (twelve years ago) link
I love that one novel of hers, The End of The Story. Soooo good. I've been slowly working my way through the Collected Stories. So far I've only finished the first two. I also loved her Madame Bovary translation. Its the only translation of MB I've read so I can't compare, but what made me buy it was this interview with her where she basically said she decided to translate MB because all the other translations sucked so bad ... so I'm not sure I want to bother with other MBs. I need to check out some of her other translations though. Maybe Blanchot?
(Stupid gossipy fun fact: she used to be married to Paul Auster, and their kid, Daniel, was a DJ/drug dealer that was involved in the Michael Alig ("Party Monster") murder case.)
― Romeo Jones, Thursday, 23 February 2012 06:11 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.incendiarylit.com/2007/12/12/for-your-reading-pleasure-a-mown-lawn-by-lydia-davis/
^^^ one of my favorite of her short stories. I would copy it here, but that would necessitate a lot of italics formatting.
― Romeo Jones, Thursday, 23 February 2012 06:32 (twelve years ago) link
I read that, she introduced Paul Auster to Francis Ponge which led to their love Affair. That's a dreamy love affair!
― JacobSanders, Thursday, 23 February 2012 06:37 (twelve years ago) link
francis ponge <3
― the jeremy lin of YANIV (cozen), Thursday, 23 February 2012 07:48 (twelve years ago) link
La Fabrique du Pré might be the most amazing piece of literature I've read.
― JacobSanders, Thursday, 23 February 2012 09:23 (twelve years ago) link
http://quarterlyconversation.com/modernist-anecdotes
q.c. is having a lydia davis extravaganza, this amongst other essays
― j., Friday, 14 March 2014 00:24 (ten years ago) link
I like this writer.
― Treeship, Friday, 14 March 2014 00:25 (ten years ago) link
also a new yorker story about her this week
― mookieproof, Friday, 14 March 2014 01:31 (ten years ago) link
I do not like this writer. Or, better put, I do not like the writing of this person.
― quincie, Friday, 14 March 2014 03:27 (ten years ago) link
is there a new book coming or
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Friday, 14 March 2014 13:14 (ten years ago) link
She is an excellent writer. She makes you think. She makes me think, this writer.
― waterbabies (waterface), Friday, 14 March 2014 13:30 (ten years ago) link
Yep, new book of stories out next week.
― That's So (Eazy), Friday, 14 March 2014 19:42 (ten years ago) link
All this being true of my friend, it occurs to me that I must not know altogether what I am, either, and that others know certain things about me better than I do, though I think I ought to know all there is to know and I proceed as if I do. Even once I see this, however, I have no choice but to continue to proceed as if I know altogether what I am, though I may also try to guess, from time to time, just what it is that others know that I do not know.
― Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Thursday, 14 August 2014 00:46 (nine years ago) link
She worked surprisingly well in an EFL classroom, it turned out.
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Thursday, 14 August 2014 20:23 (nine years ago) link
http://www.londonreviewbookshop.co.uk/events/2014/8/cant-and-wont-an-evening-with-lydia-davis
Hopefully there will be a podcast of this event.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 18 August 2014 09:39 (nine years ago) link
I think she's brilliant, but I tried to read a whole collection on holiday and it was too much, you need to approach her sparingly I think, just reading one or two and letting them linger.
― Matt DC, Monday, 18 August 2014 09:45 (nine years ago) link
I spent July reading The End of the Story and Samuel Johnson is Indignant
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 August 2014 10:27 (nine years ago) link
I'm enjoying her new book, but so far I think her texts adapted from Flaubert's letters and her brief accounts of dreams tend to outshine her more characteristic pieces.
― one way street, Monday, 18 August 2014 17:16 (nine years ago) link
She's done some good interviews recently that are available online -- WNYC Leonard Lopate; KCRW Bookworm.
― the one where, as balls alludes (Eazy), Monday, 18 August 2014 23:05 (nine years ago) link
seems like something i would like. is almost no memory what i want? i found this because i just read i love dick and it's mentioned in this thread.
― flatizza (harbl), Sunday, 7 September 2014 00:12 (nine years ago) link
I prefer 'Samuel Johnson ..' but that's 50% because I read it first
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Sunday, 7 September 2014 05:42 (nine years ago) link
or at least because of all the things i read as a teenager in an attempt to be cool its the one i would be least tempted to dismiss today and to me at least that counts for something
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Sunday, 7 September 2014 06:32 (nine years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/05/books/review/05bkr-bythebook_davis.html?ref=review
― scott seward, Saturday, 4 April 2015 16:21 (nine years ago) link
Omg did you get this?
― plax (ico), Saturday, 16 November 2019 01:28 (four years ago) link
Hey plax sorry should've updated. Yes thank you v much for this. Hope the move went well.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 16 November 2019 15:47 (four years ago) link
Lol, I don't know why this suddenly seemed urgent late last night!
― plax (ico), Saturday, 16 November 2019 16:35 (four years ago) link
Hope you enjoy it
essays 1 is incredible. i read the ‘lydias tips for writing’ one last night
― flopson, Saturday, 16 November 2019 19:16 (four years ago) link
essays 1 is an insane book. the thing i've enjoyed most after the end of the story
― plax (ico), Monday, 16 March 2020 21:40 (four years ago) link
Agreed. I read the essays on writing three weeks ago; they had their effect.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 March 2020 21:53 (four years ago) link
might buy this for the lockdown.
― Alain the Botton (jed_), Monday, 16 March 2020 22:04 (four years ago) link
essential for any writer. it’s incredible how much insight into the craft she gives
― flopson, Monday, 16 March 2020 23:31 (four years ago) link
hi, flopson!
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 March 2020 23:41 (four years ago) link
hey :)
― flopson, Monday, 16 March 2020 23:47 (four years ago) link
every writer should publish their lecture notes for the fancy MFA classes they teach imo
oh god i guess i was wrong to hold out on this
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 00:12 (four years ago) link
What's amazing is how continuous they are with her actual fiction (opening and expanding its themes) but simultaneously how straightforwardly demystifying they are
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 17 March 2020 06:47 (four years ago) link
i just started reading essays one and it’s really good. i am in quarantine and it’s going to be a very pleasing time chewer upper
― estela, Friday, 20 March 2020 00:24 (four years ago) link
lydia could (and did, and still can) get it
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 18 July 2023 04:43 (nine months ago) link
https://uk.bookshop.org/lists/a-letter-from-lydia-davis-on-independent-bookshopsNew collection not available on Amazon
― Boris Yitsbin (wins), Saturday, 14 October 2023 08:28 (six months ago) link