Indefinite Detention? But I Have Soccer Practice at 4: U.S. Politics 2012

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the incompetency on display is hilarious/sad

max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:42 (twelve years ago) link

The Michigan emergency manager debacle is really scary. This is the guy in charge:

Schimmel is also a former adjunct scholar and director of municipal finance at the Mackinac Center for Public Policy, a free-market think tank that shares his enthusiasm for privatizing public services. The center has received funding from the foundations of conservative billionaire Charles Koch, the Walton family, and Dick DeVos, the former CEO of Amway who ran as a Michigan Republican gubernatorial candidate in 2006. ... "Our goal is to outlaw government collective bargaining in Michigan," wrote Mackinac's legislative analyst in an email to a Republican state representative last summer.

drawn to them like a moth toward a spanakopita (Laurel), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:47 (twelve years ago) link

Keystone decision was just delayed amirite

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link

xp I can't convince my parents at all that this isn't a good step for failed cities that are so corrupt (and this has racism in it btw) that they've been in the red for (x) years, and need a businessman to come in and balance their budgets.

drawn to them like a moth toward a spanakopita (Laurel), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link

Keystone decision was just delayed amirite

no. State Dept said they can't complete the review and denied the application - they will have to reapply

max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 17 February 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago) link

xp I can't convince my parents at all that this isn't a good step for failed cities that are so corrupt (and this has racism in it btw) that they've been in the red for (x) years, and need a businessman to come in and balance their budgets.

Maybe you should remind them that it basically amounts to rule by regency and we fought a fucking war of independence to get away from that shit.

But probably swear less, IDK...

#1 Inspector Spacetime Fanboy (Viceroy), Friday, 17 February 2012 22:44 (twelve years ago) link

Just keep referring to the "emergency manager" as what he really is, an appointed Regent of the Governor his Lordship.

#1 Inspector Spacetime Fanboy (Viceroy), Friday, 17 February 2012 22:46 (twelve years ago) link

aw look at the cute widdle idealists

Obama was interrupted twice by critics of his policies who raised their voices and rushed toward the stage before they were removed.

As Obama hailed the end of the Iraq war and efforts to “focus on the terrorists” in Afghanistan, one woman stood and shouted repeatedly, “stop the killing of innocent civilians in Afghanistan and Pakistan.”

She was swiftly pushed out of the auditorium by an event worker and police officer.

Later, as Obama spoke about regulatory protections put in place under his administration, another guest stormed down one of the aisles shouting. “We don’t want deepwater drilling here,” she yelled as a police officer nudged her to the exit.

Obama made light of the episode.

“This is what San Francisco is always about,” he said, drawing laughter and applause. “There’s always something going on in San Francisco. Folks are not shy about sharing their ideas in San Francisco. It’s fun.”

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/02/heckled-obama-at-california-fundraiser-theres-always-something-going-on-in-san-francisco/

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 18 February 2012 10:15 (twelve years ago) link

Laurel & Viceroy otm. I thought this point was particularly salient:

Emergency managers aren't new in Michigan, which has been in dire financial straits for decades. Public Act 4 (officially titled the Local Government and School District Fiscal Accountability Act) beefed up a 1990 law that brought in state-appointed managers to several cities in the 2000s, without much success at stemming the flow of population, jobs, and tax revenue. Pontiac has been under some form of state-appointed management since 2009. Schimmel's predecessor laid off dozens of police officers, hired the county sheriff to patrol the city, and dismissed Mayor Leon Jukowski (whom Schimmel has rehired as a consultant paid at half his previous $104,000 salary). During that time, Pontiac's credit rating had dropped from B to triple-C. "They aren't creating revenue," Williams says of the managers. "You can't just cut your way out of a deficit."

Michigan has turned into a laboratory for recession spending cuts, and turns out it is exactly what is NOT needed...

kvetcher in the rye (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 18 February 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link

A pissed Tom Harkin.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 18 February 2012 18:44 (twelve years ago) link

hmmm maybe they should regulate speculation then...?

kvetcher in the rye (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 18 February 2012 21:21 (twelve years ago) link

ya I can't think of any other reason for gas to ever get expensive other than speculation

iatee, Saturday, 18 February 2012 21:22 (twelve years ago) link

that's the cool thing about infinite resources like oil, they stay cheap forever (til speculators start fucking things up)

iatee, Saturday, 18 February 2012 21:25 (twelve years ago) link

speculation plays a small role, supply/demand drives the price

tmi but (Z S), Saturday, 18 February 2012 21:41 (twelve years ago) link

I believe I read somewhere recently that the recent upticks in price at the pump are, in fact, NOT demand-driven but are the result of speculation, but I'm damned if I can find the link. If only there were some large assemblage of people - let's call them "journalists" - who might have the resources to look into such of thing and might have found it relevant to the news at hand.

A Full Torgo Apparition (Phil D.), Saturday, 18 February 2012 22:08 (twelve years ago) link

Ah, here's one article, from Jan. 23:

#COVINGTON -- Gas prices continue to rise nationwide, despite declining oil prices and demand, but the rate of increase is slowing, according to a spokeswoman with AAA Auto Club South.

#The national average for a gallon of regular gasoline is $3.38, according to AAA. That's an increase of nearly 16 cents from a month ago and 27 cents from a year ago. In Georgia, the average price is $3.41 per gallon.

#"(The increase) is not specific to one state. We're seeing that nationwide. It's pretty common that prices increase after the first of the year," usually because the market rallies with optimism that the economy will improve, said AAA spokeswoman Jessica Brady. Another factor driving up prices of late is the threat from Iran to close the Strait of Hormuz in the Persian Gulf to block oil shipments.

#Prices are not rising with the rapidity they did at the first of the year, when they jumped as much as 10 to 15 cents in one week, Brady said. But retail prices are still increasing, though oil prices have dropped and demand is the lowest it's been in a decade.

#"It's speculation, not the basic fundamentals of supply and demand," controlling prices at the pump, Brady said. "If that was the case, prices would be much lower. Demand is at a 10-year low. It's not having the effect it should on the market."

A Full Torgo Apparition (Phil D.), Saturday, 18 February 2012 22:11 (twelve years ago) link

well yeah, if iran hadn't threatened to cut off oil to the EU last week, there wouldn't have been the jump in prices. but the broader rise in prices over the last decade is driven by demand increasing at a greater rate than supply, which is stagnating.

Demand is at a 10-year low. It's not having the effect it should on the market.

that would be true if oil was a U.S. market, but it's a global market. U.S. demand is at a 10-year low, but in the developing world continues to increase put pressure on stagnating global production, which sets the overall trend of rising prices.

tmi but (Z S), Saturday, 18 February 2012 22:17 (twelve years ago) link

can't imagine why the aaa club of the south would be biased on this issue zach, I'm pretty sure america is the only place w/ cars

iatee, Saturday, 18 February 2012 22:24 (twelve years ago) link

ha ha

curmudgeon, Saturday, 18 February 2012 23:24 (twelve years ago) link

arg, totally butchered my last sentence there but it should read "but in the developing world demand continues to increase, put pressure on stagnating global production and sets the overall trend of rising prices."

tmi but (Z S), Saturday, 18 February 2012 23:33 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.bbc.co.uk/leicester/content/images/2006/10/19/dmu_head_in_hands_315x420.jpg

when i put that into google image search i initially typed "hand in heads", no joke. you all are too kind to put up with me

tmi but (Z S), Saturday, 18 February 2012 23:35 (twelve years ago) link

I'd be wary about "head in hands" too tbh

iatee, Saturday, 18 February 2012 23:38 (twelve years ago) link

Two-part Clinton American Experience on PBS this week:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/clinton/

clemenza, Sunday, 19 February 2012 05:30 (twelve years ago) link

Tea Party Sue

http://i.imgur.com/x9VBR.jpg

Chris S, Sunday, 19 February 2012 09:32 (twelve years ago) link

Jumped the gun on the Clinton documentary--it's tonight and tomorrow night. From the department of stuff-you-can't-make-up: it's directed and written by a guy named Barak Goodman.

clemenza, Monday, 20 February 2012 13:51 (twelve years ago) link

I posted the NYT's review in the Bill Clinton thread revived last night.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 February 2012 13:55 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks, will read. Really looking forward to this--it was 20 years ago, but I remember the Nixon American Experience as being excellent.

clemenza, Monday, 20 February 2012 14:04 (twelve years ago) link

The Mississippi State House of Representatives has introduced a new Personhood Bill today, even though it got swatted down 58-42 in the general election in November.

House Concurrent Resolution 61: http://billstatus.ls.state.ms.us/2012/pdf/history/HC/HC0061.xml

Steamtable Willie (WmC), Monday, 20 February 2012 23:00 (twelve years ago) link

xp: gas prices

Gasoline prices have pretty much fully decoupled from the oft quoted WTI/Cushing futures contract (which represents only supplies to the midcontinent) and more closely follow the worldwide Brent contract (which represents imports at both coasts). This graph is a bit old but gives an idea of the spread:

http://gailtheactuary.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/world-average-brent-and-wti-oil-prices.png

A few refiners in Oklahoma-Colorado-Missouri are benefiting from the spread, but for the most part, refiner margins haven't budged:

http://gailtheactuary.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/retail-gasoline-and-refiners-acquistion-cost.png

The recent spike in Brent is of course due to the EU boycott of Iran. China is getting the Iranian oil at a discount (to fill their growing strategic reserve) and EU refiners have had to bid against the US for West African etc. oil.

Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Monday, 20 February 2012 23:50 (twelve years ago) link

and our old friends on Wall Street are betting on oil securities.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 February 2012 23:52 (twelve years ago) link

yes alfred, nothing but ~conspiracies~ getting in between you and your suv

iatee, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 01:00 (twelve years ago) link

you would be the guy not to enjoy the Donald Sutherland part of JFK.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 01:10 (twelve years ago) link

no need for conspiracies; do it all out in the open, we're busy w/ our iPads.

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 05:22 (twelve years ago) link

bread and circuits

I Want to Edit My Profile... (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 05:48 (twelve years ago) link

Reading Eon by Greg Bear, not really knowing anything about it, and was surprised by the role Ralph Nader takes in it (first time I saw 'Naderite' I figured it was a coincidence). Like his imagined future where Nader brings down the USSR almost as much as the GOP's 'Reagan brought down the Evil Empire' account.

windborne grey frogs (dowd), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 20:55 (twelve years ago) link

Top picture: gas prices since Feb. 2011. Bottom picture: graph that FOX News aired today

http://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/static/images/countyfair/aaa-gasprices.jpg

http://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/static/images/countyfair/fnc-an-20120220-gasprices.jpg

A Full Torgo Apparition (Phil D.), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 00:26 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/obama-to-propose-lowering-corporate-tax-rate-to-28-percent/2012/02/22/gIQA1sjdSR_story.html?hpid=z1

What could happen is they'll lower the rate but not get rid of the loopholes. The actual effective corporate tax rate right now is pretty low because of all of the deductions. But you folks know that.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

Everything that's wrong with Ohio, politics, Republicans, the media, and Jay Leno, all in one handy story!

Ohio House Speaker William G. Batchelder said today he will not apologize for a joke made at a recent GOP event suggesting President Barack Obama should be jailed.

Batchelder, a Republican from Medina who leads the House of Representatives, made the comment Saturday at the Summit County Republican Party Lincoln Day Dinner, according to the Washington Post.

Batchelder was introducing Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum when he cracked a joke about whether Obama, a Democrat, should be re-elected.

“The liberals are asking us to give Obama more time. And I think 25-to-life would be a good start,” said Batchelder, according to the Post.

Today, Democratic Rep. Vernon Sykes, of Akron, called on Batchelder to apologize immediately.

"Speaker Batchelder's recent comments are absolutely deplorable," Sykes said in a statement released this morning. "I would expect my longtime friend, colleague and the Speaker of the Ohio House to respect the office of the President of the United States regardless of party affiliation."

Batchelder refused to apologize for his comments over the weekend.

"While some are trying to twist a harmless joke into an opportunity to attack me, make no mistake that I have deep respect for the presidency and the integrity of the office, regardless who holds it," Batchelder said in a statement this afternoon.

"I will not apologize for the joke, but I will apologize to my friend and colleague who apparently considered it more than a joke."

The statement from Batchelder's office noted that late-night TV host Jay Leno recently made a similar joke.

Batchelder said he will refrain from repeating jokes from Leno and other comedians.

http://media.cleveland.com/obrien_impact/photo/9726205-small.jpg

A Full Torgo Apparition (Phil D.), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 21:21 (twelve years ago) link

That does sound like a Leno joke.

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Lazy Washington Post columnist Ruth Marcus read a report from 3rd Way, a moderate Dem group, and she's using it to blame liberals for all of the elections Dems have lost since 1972.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/democrates-must-chase-independents-to-win/2012/02/21/gIQA74p3RR_story.html?hpid=z3

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 21:29 (twelve years ago) link

a guy who looks like his own caricature

xp

Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 21:31 (twelve years ago) link

trying to figure out if my folks/family know Vernon Sykes

(thinks and smiles) (DJP), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 21:34 (twelve years ago) link

It's not a Leno joke. It is however from a rightwong email circulating that claims it's a Leno joke.

Mordy, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 21:34 (twelve years ago) link

Ruth Marcus is a pimple on the backside of journalism.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 22:12 (twelve years ago) link

russ feingold has been named a co-chair of obama's re-election campaign

ploppawheelie V (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 23:36 (twelve years ago) link

these "3rd way" moderate Dems are rather like conservatives in that they have the same answer for everything and for every circumstance (for the conservatives, it's no-tax-hikes-ever, and for the 3rd way lot it's "dirty smelly hippie libs won't make it with 'independents').

why the fuck do we continue to pay these people any mind?!?

Puppenmeister Meisterpuppen (Eisbaer), Thursday, 23 February 2012 01:02 (twelve years ago) link

cuz they outnumber us

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 February 2012 01:04 (twelve years ago) link

yup

iatee, Thursday, 23 February 2012 01:09 (twelve years ago) link


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