quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a rolling new york times thread

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entitlement issues imho

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 21:20 (twelve years ago) link

i had to go buy an orange

max, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 21:20 (twelve years ago) link

you can choose between sushi, a macrobiotic lunch, or an orange (which you have to buy)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 21:21 (twelve years ago) link

i like the school my kids go to. its small. doesn't cost 30k a year. people are friendly. thought it might be too crunchy for me, but its not. its well thought of around the country by educators. its a model of sorts. they teach kids how to be decent people. its not montessori. its not waldorf.

scott seward, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 21:22 (twelve years ago) link

max put all that time and money into school and here he is buying a single orange like a schnook

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 21:22 (twelve years ago) link

we had magnet schools that had some vocational classes and AP classes and "alternative" schools for kids who bombed out of the mainstream or were out of the traditional environment for other reasons

valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 21:24 (twelve years ago) link

are Country Day schools rich-kid schools elsewhere in the country?

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 21:25 (twelve years ago) link

i went to a private school in an old mansion where u didnt have to do anything

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 21:25 (twelve years ago) link

On an interesting note, I found a facebook group through a friend for parents of a Montessori-style school that is actually part of the local public school system and it seems like it's just full of parents who have way too many opinions about the teachers and administration. Like the overbearing members of a PTA gone haywire

valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 21:26 (twelve years ago) link

mission statement for my kid's school:

The Greenfield Center School integrates a challenging curriculum with ethical decision-making to develop the skills and convictions for creating just communities.

The Center School promotes personal growth in an atmosphere of warmth and mutual respect. The school’s practices are built around an integration of social and academic learning. Children and adults form a vision of equitable and compassionate communities through active participation in their classroom, school, and the world beyond.

The Center School fosters a developmental approach to education, recognizing that children need a balance of physical, social, emotional, and intellectual learning. The school’s philosophy supports classroom communities in which individuals feel known and included. The curriculum is designed to engage participants in meaningful intellectual, academic, and creative endeavors.

Through critical engagement with their work and their world, students and teachers become informed, ethical problem solvers. The Center School's graduates are well prepared to excel in any academic setting. In addition, the school’s goal is that students emerge with the skills and inclinations to be reflective, empathetic, hopeful, and courageous citizens in the world.

scott seward, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 21:27 (twelve years ago) link

i know, i know, hippies, but it's nice.

scott seward, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 21:27 (twelve years ago) link

only goes up to the 8th grade though.

scott seward, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 21:27 (twelve years ago) link

Honestly this is all relevant to my interests with a kid on the way and a wife who teaches in public schools. I have no idea what the fuck people do - it seems like unless you live in Park Slope, Brooklyn Heights, Carroll Gardens, the *good* public school options in Brooklyn are very limited, and even those, again, are often overbooked. So I guess there's Queens? I mean I don't need to send my daughter to the best elementary school in the city or anything, but I would like it to be an environment that feels safe with competent teachers and I would like her to not be the only white and/or jewish kid.

But it seems like the city is hellbent on closing publics and opening charters right now.

happiness is the new productivity (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 21:27 (twelve years ago) link

there are lots of good reasons to move to queens

iatee, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 21:28 (twelve years ago) link

feel like hippies r good w/children

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 21:28 (twelve years ago) link

I know it's tragic, having to move like .2 miles

iatee, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 21:28 (twelve years ago) link

I am seriously considering it!

happiness is the new productivity (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 21:30 (twelve years ago) link

and they aren't even really hippies. or new age-y either. its just when people are positive and talk about fairness i instinctively put up my misanthropic hippie shield. i'm trying to be nicer though.

scott seward, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 21:31 (twelve years ago) link

they sound more like commies than hippies

iatee, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 21:32 (twelve years ago) link

its a fine line

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 21:33 (twelve years ago) link

People are weird about who they trust their kids with these days.

Remember when it was just like, "Well, you're school age, let's go to the school and register you" in like August or whatever and you went to the school nearest your house (or second nearest, if the districts were drawn oddly) and you were assigned a teacher and ate the crappy cafeteria food and kicked overused balls around on the playground over recess?

valleys of your mind (mh), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 21:35 (twelve years ago) link

are Country Day schools rich-kid schools elsewhere in the country?

There's one in a rich part of Detroit suburbs (Grosse Pointe??) that was my high school's tennis nemesis, iirc.

one little aioli (Laurel), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 21:37 (twelve years ago) link

"tennis nemesis" is a wonderful turn of phrase

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 21:37 (twelve years ago) link

reminds me of the store in LA called 'the merchant of tennis'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 21:37 (twelve years ago) link

If kids grow up knowing it is important to treat others well, are willing to work and know how to solve problems, then they've been "raised right".

Cosy Moments (Aimless), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 21:38 (twelve years ago) link

'right' into the hands of stalin

iatee, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 21:40 (twelve years ago) link

exeter and philips academy & c. def give you a leg up in applying to elite schools, I mean who wouldn't turn down an exeter kid, can you even imagine

lol

(_()_) (Lamp), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 23:56 (twelve years ago) link

lol I need to proofread :\

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 23:58 (twelve years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/VRKKs.jpg

not nyt but give em a few days I guess

iatee, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:29 (twelve years ago) link

lol some stylebeat reporter is getting an earful for missing the scoop I'm guessing

happiness is the new productivity (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:38 (twelve years ago) link

hey thats the coffee shop that i live next door to

max, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 18:01 (twelve years ago) link

you should order one

iatee, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 18:02 (twelve years ago) link

good opportunity for original reporting

lag∞n, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 18:03 (twelve years ago) link

As an aside, I am beginning to wonder if there is some "Ye Olde Rustic Style Distressed Ceiling Company" somewhere in brooklyn catering to all of these shops to give them that same romantic rehabbed look.

happiness is the new productivity (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 18:03 (twelve years ago) link

dudes is this really new in NYC? london's been all about "babycinos" for like 5 years already. $2 is ridiculous though, here they're 50p. (not that i let my kids get them, they eat broth made from rusty nails and carrot leaves. and LIKE IT.)

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 18:07 (twelve years ago) link

NYC is incredibly behind on coffee stuff in general.

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link

xp At least you know they're getting plenty of iron.

one little aioli (Laurel), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 18:10 (twelve years ago) link

Contrary to popular belief, the revival of craft manufacturing isn’t just a fad for Brooklyn hipsters. (Woehrle resists the term. His beard is too short, he says.)

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/19/magazine/adam-davidson-craft-business.html

I DIED, Thursday, 16 February 2012 02:27 (twelve years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/Jk1I5.jpg

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 16 February 2012 05:01 (twelve years ago) link

I've had their jerky. It had szechuan peppercorns in it! good stuff.

dan selzer, Thursday, 16 February 2012 05:12 (twelve years ago) link

i've trimmed their beards. they arent that short

(_()_) (Lamp), Thursday, 16 February 2012 05:16 (twelve years ago) link

guy is kicking himself obver that beard is too short joke right now

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 February 2012 05:20 (twelve years ago) link

that article really bothers me cause every other sentence is either 'wtf' or 'otm' and its very unpleasant to read something like that

iatee, Thursday, 16 February 2012 06:10 (twelve years ago) link

Instead, they have scrutinized the market and created customized products for less price-sensitive customers. Facebook and Apple, Starbucks and the Boston Beer Company (which makes Sam Adams lager) show that people who identify and meet untapped needs can create thousands of jobs and billions in wealth.

otm

As our economy recovers, there will be nearly infinite ways to meet custom needs at premium prices.

wtf

Meanwhile, the idea (or at least the hope) is that as China and other emerging nations develop, the United States can stay on the profitable forefront, delivering specific high-tech parts to their factories and the latest upmarket foods to their middle class.

otm

According to this view, the fracturing of industrial manufacturing, however painful, has helped prepare parts of the economy for this new course.

wtf

iatee, Thursday, 16 February 2012 06:11 (twelve years ago) link

it's like, yeah it's def good that people can sell gourmet beef jerky to each other and I am 100% behind that happening even, but it's prob not something you can build the american economy on, also why are you talking about adam smith

iatee, Thursday, 16 February 2012 06:14 (twelve years ago) link

Definitely not something you can build the economy on when the article says the jerky company is in the red!

I think there are also some really key differences between handmade jerky sold at retail and precision machined aerospace components sold to multibillion dollar companies that renders the term "craft manufacturing" pretty meaningless.

I DIED, Thursday, 16 February 2012 06:33 (twelve years ago) link

time was when americans actually made things

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 16 February 2012 06:55 (twelve years ago) link

"You know what the trouble is, Brucey? We used to make artisanal pickles in this country, build longboards with fair-trade lumber. Now we just put our hand in the next guy's pocket."

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 16 February 2012 08:36 (twelve years ago) link

Everyone should become yoga instructors, and that way everyone could give everyone else yoga lessons

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 16 February 2012 12:13 (twelve years ago) link


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