Rolling Metal Thread 2012

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I just discovered Mercyful Fate this past weekend; I found Don't Break the Oath on vinyl and took a chance. HOLY SHIT. How did I live without this band?! The guitar work blows my face off. I've listened to the record about five times since I picked it up.

Clarke B., Tuesday, 14 February 2012 03:14 (six years ago) Permalink

Coincidentally I listened to "Melissa" for the first time the other day too. It was good, I need to re-listen to it!

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 09:44 (six years ago) Permalink

Did Ghost play I'm A Marionette by ABBA on their recent US tour?

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 22:16 (six years ago) Permalink


Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 22:53 (six years ago) Permalink

Holy shit. I saw Vektor for the first time last night. Hands down one of the best metal bands out there. They are gonna be (deservedly) huge.

Here's footage from the show, at a tiny bar on a Monday night. Packed.

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 06:26 (six years ago) Permalink

that's exciting! i really like 'outer isolation' and was wondering whether they could pull that sort of thing off live. (similiar sorta incredulity as to when i first heard absu) seems like they can. hope they come to the uk soon.

cb, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 13:52 (six years ago) Permalink

no ABBA songs at the ghost show i went to - just the full album + the here comes the sun cover

Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:04 (six years ago) Permalink

So Maiden's touring again this summer. Skipping my part of the world, but I'm fully prepared to go elsewhere to see this one. I missed the '88 Canadian tour (with GNR opening) for the same reason, so it'd be nice to see them revisiting that chapter in the band's history.

A. Begrand, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 22:08 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I'm very excited about this tour. It'll be my sixth time seeing them, but I'm very much looking forward to hearing this particular set of songs. I like Seventh Son a fair amount.

誤訳侮辱, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 22:17 (six years ago) Permalink

the next one, individual thought patterns, features Andy LaRoque - guitarist from the King Diamond band!

That, and it is one of the all time best metal records ever made.

Siegbran, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 22:46 (six years ago) Permalink

Thanks jjjusten.

I'm watching Mayhem for the first time in Oslo on Saturday night.

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Thursday, 16 February 2012 07:40 (six years ago) Permalink

Alice Cooper and Kvelertak are holding the flag for metal at Bonnaroo this year. (Honorary mention to Bad Brains and Battles) And that's about it.

Nate Carson, Thursday, 16 February 2012 11:28 (six years ago) Permalink

Isn't Danzig playing too?

誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 16 February 2012 12:13 (six years ago) Permalink

Japanese sludge! I know you guys are into that:

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Friday, 17 February 2012 20:01 (six years ago) Permalink

My first Rhapsody metal roundup of 2012. (Caveats: [1] I only really "recommend" the top three; [2] two albums technically came out in 2011; [3] six reviews were written by other people.)

Otherwise, have been totally immersing myself in Small Stone Records stuff from the past few years. Surprised by how much I'm liking a lot of it.

xhuxk, Friday, 17 February 2012 20:15 (six years ago) Permalink

Also, fwiw, I like the Devil's Blood album as much as any of those, but Rhapsody doesn't seem to be carrying it (at least not yet), and I like Christian Mistress even more than Devil's Blood but it's not out yet. Iron Fire and Steel Wing, both of which I actually reviewed, would have been in the Top 5 of that roundup if I was allowed to include them, but they're for-sale-only (no streaming), which makes them off-limits for Roundups/Staff Picks/etc. And Orange Goblin would've been in the top 5, too, but it came out too late; will save that for next time.

xhuxk, Friday, 17 February 2012 20:35 (six years ago) Permalink

I'm at by:larm in Oslo. As well as a very enjoyable death metal group called Execration, I just saw an awesome grindcore band called Beaten To Death - so good live.

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Friday, 17 February 2012 22:08 (six years ago) Permalink

I had the greatest time at by:larm. Be sure to visit Neseblod Records! I miss Oslo dearly.

A. Begrand, Friday, 17 February 2012 22:54 (six years ago) Permalink

I've already been this year! Picked up Execration on vinyl... I was going to get a Dark Throne hoodie but everything only goes up to L; skinny, good looking Norwegian bastards. (I love going to Norway and I'm getting to round the trip off with Nekromantheon, Arabrot and Mayhem tomorrow - good times.)

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Saturday, 18 February 2012 01:38 (six years ago) Permalink

I am listening to the new Emmure album. It's good. Better than their last one, maybe, and I put that one on my Pazz & Jop ballot for 2011.

誤訳侮辱, Saturday, 18 February 2012 02:05 (six years ago) Permalink

Great line up coming up tonight in Oslo: Beaten To Death, Arabrot, Necromantheon, Mayhem and then Lindstrom.

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Saturday, 18 February 2012 18:16 (six years ago) Permalink

fav metal album from last year finally getting a vinyl release

Crackle Box, Sunday, 19 February 2012 15:22 (six years ago) Permalink

Been going in the metal room with frobisher viceroy and sean wayne during the day (when noones in outloud) and its kinda funny seeing what the almost real world listens to. Kids especially think metal should be fast otherwise its 'not metal'. Not 'not my think' or 'crap' but 'not metal. But the same kids listen to bullet for my valentine ,Avenged sevenfold , emmure or trivium, one of whom said while Mercyful Fate was on 'this isn't metal'. And smithy,it was the few people into Isis and Boris who were the ones who sprung to the kings defence!

Main stuff played in there is Slayer/slipknot/maiden/ozzy/sabbath/pantera/lamb of god/opeth/meshuggah/Death/Carcass/machine head/sepultura and Megadeth. plus the underground stuff but the main acts i mentioned get played and the same tracks get voted up as soon as theyve finished. Mainstream metal songs seem to be a small gene pool in there.
As i said metalcore gets played but is frowned upon. But there really is a big gap between the 16 year olds into metalcore/deathcore and the actual metalheads (there's no hipster metallers in there apart from us 3 ilxors!! haha).

Anyway irl do you guys come across kids into just the same stuff as i mentioned or do any listen to black/death/doom/grind/thrash? or even what you term as hipster metal?

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 14:47 (six years ago) Permalink

Not 'not my thing'

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 14:48 (six years ago) Permalink

when i say mainstream metal gene pool is small i mean the choices of bands/songs not the actual metallers, they are the largest amount obviously

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 14:49 (six years ago) Permalink

The thing that most surprises me is that mainstream metallers, who are not kids, but guys in their 20s , don't listen to either a) a varied amount of genres and b) a lot of bands instead they listen to the same dozen or so that everyone else does. I thought with the internet and choice they would be devouring more music but it doesn't seem to be the case. And many of them say they only listen to metal - modern mainstream and classic (ie slayer,metallica,megadeth and 90s - yes 90s is classic era now). So it's not like they are listening to other music so have less time for other metal bands.

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 15:00 (six years ago) Permalink

Anyway if this should be a thread of it's own rather than here i shall start it

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 15:00 (six years ago) Permalink

if i could think of a good title

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 15:01 (six years ago) Permalink

What happened to Cannibal Corpse cover art? I continue to be really disappointed with it since Kill.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 16:53 (six years ago) Permalink

The song titles aren't as creative, either – there are a few good ones like "Intestinal Crank" and "Followed Home Then Killed," but nothing nearly as gut churning as the classic stuff.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 18:01 (six years ago) Permalink

I was listening to the Christian Mistress album this weekend and discussing it with my wife (who is not particularly into metal, though she'll put up with certain bands), and the more I listen to it the more it seems symptomatic of lowered standards on metal bloggers' part. The obvious hook with CM is their "classicism," i.e. they sound like a band from the late '70s or early '80s, but here's the thing: they don't sound like a good band from the late '70s or early '80s. They sound like a third-tier act of that era, destined to permanent opening-act status and wholly unlikely to get signed and get the polishing-up that Judas Priest or Iron Maiden underwent. And yet in 2012, they not only got signed, they're getting the big push...this also-ran band is what everyone's panting over at the moment. Shouldn't we demand better? Isn't it about more than having the right amps and pedals? Shouldn't we want bands to be able to write a decent song, or put across a vocal with real power? The CM singer just isn't that good - her voice is basically a flat bark with a tiny dash of bluesy grit. Fine, you don't like tech-death or deathcore or djent or whatever other ultra-cyborgy thing seems dominant at the moment. But overpraising every retro thing that comes along doesn't help. And yes, I admit I liked them for a little while. But their album was just one of dozens, across multiple genres (metal, jazz, electronic stuff) I checked out in the course of a given week, and diminishing returns set in hard after the third or fourth listen.

誤訳侮辱, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 18:02 (six years ago) Permalink

I respectfully disagree with your thesis. At least to my ears, I've discovered more pockets of awesomeness in the record the more I listened to it.

Gamera died for our sins (J3ff T.), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 18:05 (six years ago) Permalink

yet in 2012, they not only got signed, they're getting the big push

well they got signed to an indie metal label, one which afaic has about the same relationship with the mainstream as the labels which put out the quote-unquote third-tier acts 30 years ago

Sylv_ebanks (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 18:25 (six years ago) Permalink

..some of which were more interesting (or at least seem more interesting, in retrospect) than first-tier acts of 30 years ago. Or maybe the idea that they were third-tier acts means they were dead ends that didn't have to be dead ends, and are worth exploring to see paths that weren't quite taken the first time around. I also can't think of many new metal singers lately I've liked more than Christine Davis. I wish she put more words over, to be honest, but I kind of love the grain of her voice. I didn't think the songs on the first album actually clicked as songs -- it seemed too much like a demo to me, way too underproduced -- but on the new one a few definitely do, more than on most metal albums I hear. (My favorite is the title track, probably, then maybe "There Is Nowhere," "Black To Gold," and "Pentagon And Crucifix.") Not a great record, probably, but a really good one.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 18:39 (six years ago) Permalink

i think it does matter whether something is happening now or whether it happened back when.

sometimes there does seem to be something off about christine davis' singing, and yet it's very compelling to listen to.

j., Tuesday, 21 February 2012 18:45 (six years ago) Permalink

I love Christine's voice, it's unique. Plus the band really steps up with some very good songs on the new album. They're far from also-rans.

If you want power, Phil, just wait until you hear the new Accept. It blows the last album away, it's focused, it's aggressive, it's in keeping with the classic Accept aesthetic. At least I think so. You'll probably say, "meh."

A. Begrand, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 19:01 (six years ago) Permalink

to expand on what Kerr was asking.. I've noticed, at least here in the bay area, the younger kids, if they do not play in bands, or play instruments at all, usually don't know "whats up".. one of tghe kids I give drum lessons to has a great tech death metal band called Logestic Slaughter.. he's 19, and everytime I've mentioned an old band as a reference, he's either heard of em, digs em and has there stuff.. and a wide range of stuff too, its great! and he says him and his friends always check out old stuff to know thier roots!! so I have faith in the younger gen, if they get exposed to the goods..

SeanWayne, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 19:03 (six years ago) Permalink

so I have faith in the younger gen, if they get exposed to the goods..

ilm journos its up to you!

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 19:06 (six years ago) Permalink

I think the kids are just into what their friends are into, and often don't venture out into other stuff.. I went saw Animals as Leaders awhiler back cuz Intronaut was playing.. but a shit ton of youngsters were there to see AAL, and they knew the songs and were going pretty ape shit.. But I was like, had they never heard of Yngwie? Od Vai, or any other super shredder that makes that guy look silly.. lol

SeanWayne, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 19:09 (six years ago) Permalink

well, we need to make sure kids are playing, and not just their playstations..

SeanWayne, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 19:10 (six years ago) Permalink

Anyway irl do you guys come across kids into just the same stuff as i mentioned or do any listen to black/death/doom/grind/thrash? or even what you term as hipster metal?

my contact w/IRL ppl is extremely limited & pretty much all the metal enthusiasts I know work for Decibel or post here

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 19:53 (six years ago) Permalink


I wish I knew more irl people into metal.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 19:53 (six years ago) Permalink


Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 19:55 (six years ago) Permalink

i had a student who liked lamb of god (and another one this semester listed it as her (!) favorite i think). he thought most of the things i liked were waaaaay too slow.

j., Tuesday, 21 February 2012 20:11 (six years ago) Permalink

haha thats why I said "more" , not like I don't know any

Right now I just wish I had more time to go see shows.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 20:12 (six years ago) Permalink

i know ;)

metal kid in my class was into lots of different genres of metal, but i think he was kind of an anomaly. he did seem to be amused by my agalloch tshirt when i pooched it above my sweater. (i can only wear it under sweaters because like most tshirts it's TOO BIG)

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 20:16 (six years ago) Permalink

I'm kind of astonished how little a lot of the people at my job know about the larger metal scene. There's one dude who's really into grind, but a lot of my fellow metal record label employees spend their days listening to old Hellcat punk, or 90s hip-hop, or jazz, or ultra-mainstream rock and pop. (I have heard the current Jason Mraz single roaring at arena volume from one particular guy's office something like 5-6 times a day for a couple of weeks now.)

誤訳侮辱, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 20:18 (six years ago) Permalink

people been saying that about ro@drunner for years!

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 20:22 (six years ago) Permalink

To be fair, Mraz guy isn't actually an RR employee - he works for Atlantic and just shares our office space. But seriously, the only people who are deep into metal, I think, are the A&R staff.

誤訳侮辱, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 20:25 (six years ago) Permalink

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