Depeche Mode Tour Films POLL

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that whole conversation between the jock and the girl who was studying to be a fashion designer brought back a lot of memories. a lot of time was spent in those days differentiating between what was REAL and what was SUPERFICIAL and FAKE. the visual punchline to that conversation was absolutely priceless - after this long, incoherent rant to these (incredibly appealing) girls about how fashion is FAKE and not "art", which is REAL (QED), talking over them the whole time and totally ignoring what they're saying, they finally get a word in edgewise: "so what are YOU wearing? what's that?" "cut off jeans! i've been wearing cut off jeans for 15 years!" and he turns and walks away and you see the cut-offs, which reach his knees and are actually CUFFED there, probably the doofiest possible legwear imaginable, and the girls just crack up

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 13 February 2012 16:26 (twelve years ago) link

What was that last line to the camera, "He knows nothing about fashion, right?" Something like that.

I keep going on about the DVD version -- trust me, it's great -- but the commentary gets some priceless moments in; it's Pennebaker and his partner, whose name I am sadly forgetting, talking with each of the three current members as stitched together from separate sessions, and when they get to that part they're loving the whole debate for pretty much all the reasons you just specified! Except maybe the jeans part, can't recall.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 February 2012 16:32 (twelve years ago) link

haha i will have to get the DVD! i mean all else aside it is just a leeetle ironic that the jock has such a profound attachment to his idea that visual style is utterly worthless while at the same time his favorite band is..... depeche mode.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 13 February 2012 16:39 (twelve years ago) link

The whole series of contrasts over who is supposed to be a 'typical' Depeche fan as set against anyone else is a hilarious/telling subtext of the entire film. The truck stop denizens, the Latino Guns'n'Roses fans...

Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 February 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link

"guns and posers! haha! haha! guns and posers."

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 13 February 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link

Our own Mr. Soto has now seen and believed:

http://humanizingthevacuum.wordpress.com/2012/02/14/theyll-go-down-on-their-knees-depeche-mode-101/

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 20:03 (twelve years ago) link

best part of that whole argument with the art girl and the guy is that, at the start of the Rose Bowl gig near the end the 2 of them look very cosy, she's got his arm round him and they're dancing together! it's cute!

piscesx, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 20:13 (twelve years ago) link

Depeche crosses all boundaries.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 20:37 (twelve years ago) link

One of my favourite moments in 101 is the hysterical screaming chick during 'Blasphemous Rumours'. Man, she's a bit intense isn't she!? I wonder what she thinks whenever she watches herself on 101 these days.

Turrican, Friday, 17 February 2012 21:59 (twelve years ago) link

The whole series of contrasts over who is supposed to be a 'typical' Depeche fan as set against anyone else is a hilarious/telling subtext of the entire film. The truck stop denizens, the Latino Guns'n'Roses fans...

― Ned Raggett, Monday, February 13, 2012 4:42 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"guns and posers! haha! haha! guns and posers."

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, February 13, 2012 4:53 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Didn't that guy meet Axl Rose at the premiere of 101? I remember hearing some hilarious story about it.

Turrican, Friday, 17 February 2012 22:02 (twelve years ago) link

If I had been voting in this poll at the time it would have been a very very tough choice between 101 and Devotional. Touring The Angel is my favourite of the post-Wilder tourfilms (Great setlist, love the stage design), whereas I've always found One Night In Paris a bit on the dull side, not just because the setlist is (at it obviously would be) a bit 'Exciter'-heavy (an album I've never really liked), but the way it's filmed makes the shows seem really bland. I went to one of the 'Exciter' shows in the UK and my dad went to the shows in Paris, and both of us felt the same way about the film.

To put it simply, One Night In Paris doesn't make me want to BE there. Whereas when I watch 101, Devotional or Touring The Angel, they make me kick myself that I wasn't able to attend.

Turrican, Friday, 17 February 2012 22:09 (twelve years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Showed 101 for a friend last night who had never seen it and has been a Depeche fan for years. I still can't believe the amount of people who you'd think would have seen it by now but still haven't LIKE DJP AND JJJ FOR INSTANCE but anyway. Anyway, still fantastic, will never not be.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 17:22 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

101 concert, 25 years old as of tomorrow.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 17 June 2013 18:28 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

watched 101 for the first time. i did not know about the audience arm-wavey thing. so dorky and so beautiful. left and right and left and right and left and right and left and right...

slugbuggy, Friday, 22 August 2014 05:30 (nine years ago) link

A friend of mine back in 1992 or so said it looked like those films of seafloor plants you see where the currents drag them to and fro.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 August 2014 12:47 (nine years ago) link

i've since watched many youtube clips of subsequent live versions of never let me down again and it's <3 <3 <3 how happy it makes gahan to do this. he gets to wear the metaphorical trousers and he's digging it.

is the rose bowl show the first time they've played to an audience that large, anywhere? there's some stuff tom wolfe discusses in electric kool-aid acid test (iirc) vis-à-vis the beatles and stadium crowds and gahan twigs that in an instant during this song. the placement is perfect. workmanlike brick-laying with the clunky rhythms and plink-plonky melody, holding you down tight, then rumbling tremors and dissociation with the middle section from the remix version, and then release! and transcendence with the synth angel chorus. hands! hands! to the heavens, to the stars! take that energy and throw it right back, magnified. see the stars they're shining bright, everything is all right tonight. we'll see the stars that shine so bright, everything will be all right, tonight. i figure the iggy references are a given but i dunno. i'm taking a ride with my best friend; i am a passenger.

i love those dickhead kids in the movie and i miss them already.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 23 August 2014 09:12 (nine years ago) link

pretty boys and pretty girls
spreading joy to the world

these fucking kids, i love how the doc inverts the fan/ performer dichotomy. the kids/ fans are awesome; the band are there to provide the backdrop. those kids were more excited to have been in the audience than they were when they met actually their idols: tbf it was alan and andy not martin or dave.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 23 August 2014 09:51 (nine years ago) link

i think hat was def a better decision than no hat. so cute.

slugbuggy, Saturday, 23 August 2014 11:06 (nine years ago) link

liveblogging from 1988

slugbuggy, Saturday, 23 August 2014 11:15 (nine years ago) link

Had an interesting experience a couple of years ago showing 101 for the first time to someone who pretty much hates DM, or at least hates everything from DM after 101 and therefore had not listened to the band at all in decades. He was really blown away by it, both as a film and as a document.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 23 August 2014 19:03 (nine years ago) link

is the rose bowl show the first time they've played to an audience that large, anywhere?

Yup, pretty much. I'd have to check their gig history to see if they played larger festivals in Europe -- always a possibility -- and they had had a huge wave already in Germany but I'm pretty sure this was their then top limit. (IIRC the Dodger Stadium shows just two years later for Violator were even bigger...I think.)

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 August 2014 19:26 (nine years ago) link

Time to rewatch some of these, it's been a while. "One Night in Paris" seems to get better with time. Corbijn is directing their next DVD too.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 24 August 2014 10:40 (nine years ago) link

My favourite part of "101" is the first two minutes of this clip. I could watch it on a loop all day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYRdZWVWRGY

It's so amazing to see the insane crowd anticipation together with the "long walk" of the band, they're trying to be cool about the whole thing for the cameras but you can see that they're nervous as hell. For me it's the most revealing moment of the film.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 24 August 2014 10:47 (nine years ago) link

The most revealing moment of the film for me is when the band is riding high on the monumental success of the night, while the manager and other business folks are bunkered down sussing out the cost of turf replacement and the like.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 24 August 2014 12:18 (nine years ago) link

Watching "devotional" again, I can totally see the recipe for disaster. Band at or near the peak of its popularity, Gahan out there away from the rest of the band, with nowhere to hide, carrying almost all of the performance himself ... I can only imagine the pressure he was under, let alone the pressure to be a "rock star."

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 August 2014 02:53 (nine years ago) link

He was carrying the performance himself in "101" too. "Devotional" is the culmination of that process, not the start of it. But moving to LA and hanging out with "real" rock stars and wanting to be one himself obviously didn't help.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 25 August 2014 07:38 (nine years ago) link

Been a while since I saw "101," but in "Devotional," he can't even make eye contact with the band! It seems like a more extreme version of, yes, the ascent that began around "101." So a culmination, sure, but the staging appears to go above and beyond to isolate him.

I've read funny accounts from Charlie Watts about what it's like the be stuck back on the drum stool while the stages get bigger and bigger and wider and wider. Basically, he just goes about his business, and every once in a while someone runs in front of him. Or he'll go several songs without knowing where Mick even is.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 August 2014 11:39 (nine years ago) link

two years pass...

So, I never got very into Depeche Mode. I had a couple of the Violator singles in junior high, but they were always playing second fiddle to the Cure for me at that time. I've tried at various points to get into them again, mostly by listening to the stretch of albums from Black Celebration through Songs of Faith and Devotion, but they still never really landed for me.

Dug into the 101 album the past two days because Jenny Lee Lindberg from Warpaint recommended a track from it and everything has just fallen into place for me. I haven't been able to compare it with the source material to decide if the performances are any better or if it's just the addition of crowd noise that transforms it for me, but I feel like now I really like Depeche Mode.

I've just been soaking it up and read this thread and now am really enthused to seek out the film which is available on youtube with Deutsche Untertitel but I have so much work to do today there's no way I'm going to be able to get away with watching a two-hour movie.

how's life, Tuesday, 25 October 2016 11:46 (seven years ago) link

Get tickets for the upcoming tour, I'd say!

willem, Tuesday, 25 October 2016 12:47 (seven years ago) link

It's pretty far afield for me. I might go see them if they come back to the U.S.

how's life, Tuesday, 25 October 2016 12:54 (seven years ago) link

My favorite thing about "101" and that performance of "Everything Counts" (it's the last song, right?) is that the whole show ends with this huge, emotional moment, of everyone singing along, and the band triumphant, exultant. And then it cuts to the bean counters in the trailer, tallying the money, paying the bills, calculating how much it will cost to replace the sod ...

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 25 October 2016 13:57 (seven years ago) link

(At least that's how I remember it.)

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 25 October 2016 13:57 (seven years ago) link

It cuts back and forth over a couple of songs.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 25 October 2016 14:15 (seven years ago) link

four years pass...

Well well well

https://store.rhino.com/artist/depeche-mode/101-deluxe-edition.html

There will be a standalone Blu-ray as well.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 20:15 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

And tied in with that release, which is now out: my piece on the film and its inadvertant legacies and complications for the Quietus:

https://thequietus.com/articles/30946-depeche-mode-101

Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 December 2021 20:59 (two years ago) link


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