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he is the guy who counts the money

iatee, Sunday, 12 February 2012 23:11 (five years ago) Permalink

my fingers hurt (dayo), Sunday, 12 February 2012 23:13 (five years ago) Permalink

sux 4 u, new batch just arrived

iatee, Sunday, 12 February 2012 23:14 (five years ago) Permalink

Doug Henwood on, well, everything:

So in return for hundreds of billions of dollars in public funds used to keep the financial system from going under, the banks will emerge from this crisis largely unscathed. One reason for this is Wall Street’s skill at lobbying, and its ability to spread huge amounts of cash around Washington. As Public Citizen documented, between 1998 and 2008, Wall Street spent $5 billion in campaign contributions and deployed 3,000 lobbyists across Capitol Hill to get its way. While $5 billion sounds like a lot, it was less than a third of the Goldman Sachs bonus pool for 2009, and spread out over a decade. Wall Street has a lot of money, and Congress can be bought on the cheap.

But, as I argued earlier, Wall Street also represents the commanding heights of the economy, the central mechanism by which ruling class economic power is formed and exercised. It’s only surprising to people who don’t understand this that Washington dances so faithfully to the bankers’ tunes.

...Thanks to a small band of people who moved into a private park near Wall Street last September 17, political discourse and activism have taken the most hopeful turn that I can remember. I have my reservations about the ideological orientation of a lot of the Occupiers. And it’s hard to know whether this spirit will survive the winter—or the banalizing tendencies of presidential election campaigns. But I’m going to bracket that for now and admit to more than a shred of hope that things are turning in a seriously better direction. Finally.

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 18:10 (five years ago) Permalink

s.clover, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 19:40 (five years ago) Permalink

a+ trolling but I can imagine that pr-wise pissing off every single journalist in america is prob not in his long-term interests

iatee, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 18:28 (five years ago) Permalink

“Newspapers -- I went and got this one day just for fun -- 42 percent payout ratio, which I just think is just damned outrageous.”

“Worse than that, you don’t even make any money!” Dimon said, directing his comments to those in the media covering the company’s investor day and drawing laughter from his audience. “We pay 35 percent. We make a lot of money.” JPMorgan posted $19 billion in profit last year.

fucking bond villain i swear to god

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 19:18 (five years ago) Permalink

Despite the difficult environment, New York firms paid roughly $20 billion in year-end cash compensation to their employees. The average bonus was $121,150, down just 13 percent from the year before as the head count shrank. In 2006, the year before the financial crisis, the average investment bank employee took home a bonus of $191,360.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 1 March 2012 18:10 (five years ago) Permalink

I would think newspapers probably have a higher payout ratio BECAUSE they don't make as much money.

simulation and similac (Hurting 2), Thursday, 1 March 2012 19:11 (five years ago) Permalink

fuck this industry


the jeremy lin of YANIV (cozen), Thursday, 1 March 2012 21:23 (five years ago) Permalink

no honor among thieves

flagp∞st (dayo), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 22:07 (five years ago) Permalink

The ex-Goldmanite op-ed that's lighting up the blogosphere:

o. nate, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 19:26 (five years ago) Permalink

this is not just a Goldman Sachs problem, but a Wall Street problem. Goldman was not alone in selling clients CDOs stuffed with shaky subprime mortgages, for which it paid the SEC $550 million a couple of years (and two Greg Smith bonuses) ago. Nor was it alone in pumping Russia full of debt in the late 1990s, nor was it alone in parachuting out of the market ahead of its clients in 1929.

Of course, this won't change the view of Republicans and the likes of Geithner and others.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 19:48 (five years ago) Permalink

"We used to make things in this company. Like synthetic credit products. And the clients liked them!"

s.clover, Wednesday, 14 March 2012 20:01 (five years ago) Permalink

like i said in another thread, if you started at Goldman Sachs when Henry Paulson was running things and you're looking at that as some sort of golden era of ethics and integrity, then you've wearing some pretty strong blinders or have a strange definition of ethics and integrity.

kurwa mać (Polish for "long life") (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 23:50 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm slightly sympathetic to him because he's from a foreign country - like I could maybe see him arriving here and buying everything about ~america~ without too much skepticism

flagp∞st (dayo), Wednesday, 14 March 2012 23:53 (five years ago) Permalink

it is good that someone who was on the inside is taking a few good kicks at an obvious villain in a relatively well-respected and well-read forum. also, i don't want to jump on him b/c i'm positive that as we speak there's an army of well-paid flunkies working overtime and at Goldman Sachs's behest to tear him down as we speak.

that said, there is a certain naivete to his column.

kurwa mać (Polish for "long life") (Eisbaer), Thursday, 15 March 2012 00:02 (five years ago) Permalink

plus, i hope the he's got a nice stash of "fuck you" money tucked away somewhere ... or pictures of some Goldman Sachs bigwig doing something unspeakably vile (other than what they've done to their investors, the American taxpayers or the world-at-large).

kurwa mać (Polish for "long life") (Eisbaer), Thursday, 15 March 2012 00:07 (five years ago) Permalink

discussion of his bronze medal in ping-pong is a nice touch -- suitably egomaniacal yet somehow naive-seeming as well

mookieproof, Thursday, 15 March 2012 00:18 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah, they have to show that they retain the common touch even though they're still smarter-and-more-accomplished-than-pathetic-little-you-will-ever-be.

kurwa mać (Polish for "long life") (Eisbaer), Thursday, 15 March 2012 00:52 (five years ago) Permalink

dude was UK based, though I gather GS London culture was about the same as New York's.

boxall, Thursday, 15 March 2012 00:57 (five years ago) Permalink

only for the last two years of his career

flagp∞st (dayo), Thursday, 15 March 2012 01:00 (five years ago) Permalink

Ah right, good catch.

boxall, Thursday, 15 March 2012 01:07 (five years ago) Permalink

this story reminded me of this bit from a a long Goldman article the Times (UK) did a couple years ago:

[Brian Griffiths] is one of the bank’s international advisers and also acts as company pastor. ‘I had one guy who came to see me — I thought about his career — but he wanted to talk about the morality of banking. That was a long conversation,’ Griffiths recalls.

boxall, Thursday, 15 March 2012 01:15 (five years ago) Permalink

lol The Church of Goldman Sachs

kurwa mać (Polish for "long life") (Eisbaer), Thursday, 15 March 2012 01:17 (five years ago) Permalink

a long Goldman article the Times (UK) did a couple years ago


mookieproof, Thursday, 15 March 2012 01:21 (five years ago) Permalink

the author's a little fawning but there aren't many interviews with Blankfein & co. so it's a decent read

boxall, Thursday, 15 March 2012 01:25 (five years ago) Permalink

first woman partner at GS speaks about the nyt op-ed

strange how rosy the glasses get when reminiscing huh

dayo, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 11:54 (five years ago) Permalink

A not-too-sentimental GS reminiscence:,goldman-sachs-is-unveiled.aspx

This one seems pretty balanced to me.

o. nate, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:08 (five years ago) Permalink

IDK I think maybe people have started to read Matt Taibbi a little too literally? It's possible that things actually seemed better at one time at GS, or that not every investment banker and trader and manager in every department had an alter to satan on his desk at which he promised to screw over clients in every way possible.

the prurient pinterest (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:08 (five years ago) Permalink

GS is the Duke basketball team of Wall Street sports.

dandydonweiner, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:27 (five years ago) Permalink

xxp I worked as a bond salesman on Goldman’s London trading floor in the early 1990s.

according to michael lewis's liar's poker, bond traders are the worst of the worst right?

dayo, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:38 (five years ago) Permalink

I feel like every book about every kind of trader makes that claim

the prurient pinterest (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:40 (five years ago) Permalink

idk - I think the rogue's gallery in are all former bond traders

dayo, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:42 (five years ago) Permalink

Here's a more critical look:

Everyone knows there are sophisticated clients and "sophisticated clients." Your client trust shtick is tailor made to fleece the latter.

This reminds me of the old adage: If you don't know who the sucker is at the table, then it's probably you.

o. nate, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:46 (five years ago) Permalink

that is one of my favorite blogs, O.Nate.

dandydonweiner, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:47 (five years ago) Permalink

Everyone knows there are sophisticated clients and "sophisticated clients." Your client trust shtick is tailor made to fleece the latter.

This point needs to be made more. There's a HUGE difference between a hedge fund and an icelandic municipal pension fund. It's basically the larger scale version of why boiler room guys love lawyers and doctors as clients -- professionals with a high estimation of their own intelligence and some real money to invest, but whose professions actually don't require them to have any financial or investing acumen, so they're easily suckered.

the prurient pinterest (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:55 (five years ago) Permalink

you can actually reverse that from the perspective of lawyers and doctors too

iatee, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 14:57 (five years ago) Permalink

Anyway I don't think Goldman is doing anything that different than anyone who trades in specialist merchandise (be it antiques, art, or whatever) just that they do it on a larger scale. If you don't know anything about antiques and you go shopping for something, you're likely to overpay, because only an expert really knows how much these things are worth. It's nice to think the salesman will sell it to you for what it's really worth, but perhaps a bit naive?

o. nate, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:09 (five years ago) Permalink

yup, in fact art dealers (and probably investment bankers) like to go after newly minted celebrities, athletes who just won their first championship, etc.

the prurient pinterest (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 15:10 (five years ago) Permalink

difference being that GS hedges against their clients with their client's money

dandydonweiner, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 16:15 (five years ago) Permalink

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