quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a rolling new york times thread

1. print and bind every ilx thread
2. place on bookshelf
3. use card catalog to index them
4. win

omg brownie

unique definition of win there

ilx is the greatest novel ever written

― velko, Friday, January 22, 2010 3:13 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

ilx is the greatest novel ever written

― buzza, Saturday, December 18, 2010 11:55 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark

ilx is the greatest novel ever written

― J0rd D. (velko), Monday, July 13, 2009 3:42 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark

ilx is the greatest novel ever written

― velko, Sunday, August 23, 2009 7:26 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark

Champagne Supernova is the greatest song ever written.
― Ally, Monday, July 9, 2001 12:00 AM (10 years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnjNXn0uLHA

http://travel.nytimes.com/2012/02/12/travel/whatever-happened-to-first-class.html

o so THAT'S what happened to it

I dont ever recall seeing a first class section in any domestic flights here even in the expensive Qantas-only days. It was business, and coach. First was for long haul and Ive only ever seen it on my Emirates flight to the UK in 98 (and they allowed smoking there then!)

my God, that article.

someone in the comments section hit it on the nose - first class is better than ever. it's just now called 'private flights'.

hahaha otm

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/15/nyregion/foreign-parents-in-new-york-prefer-public-schools.html?_r=1&hp

who are we supposed to laugh at?

Yeah actually it sounds like those parents have much more reasonable expectations of what a school should be like than typical NYC *ruling class* parents. And ultimately having affluent families in public schools tends to be good for everyone, as long as there are enough seats in good schools, which, if there aren't, is really the city's fault and not the foreign-born affluent or w/e.

Sad laughter at the affluent parents who have left the public schools to rot as their kids go to ridiculously-priced academies

the only caveat is that those parents probably live in expensive neighborhoods, ergo the school is well-funded (unless NYC has different education funding laws)

O_o that some private schools give a choice between sushi and macrobiotic lunches

I think the schools I went to have better food now but when I was a kid the lunch choices were usually pretty bad

xpost yes and no -- afaik basic school funding per-pupil is not different by neighborhood within city limits (if I'm not mistaken), but there are other ways in which the affluence of the neighborhood will bring money into the school. The school's mentioned in the article are definitely some of the best and most affluent (and often, I think, requiring lotteries because there's so much demand).

That's going to be true anywhere though, and I still think it's better for everyone on the whole to have more affluent families in the public schools and to avoid a strict two-tiered system.

i would pick sushi btw

sushi in the cafeteria sounds bad, since I'd eat it every day and get mercury poisoning

pizza boats!

have no mercury in them. only pizza boats.

I think it's encouraging, actually, that there are considerable numbers of parents who can afford private schools but would prefer schools that do not teach their kids to be entitled little shits.

dont know how these parents expect their kids to be successful w/o proper entitled little shit training

the school my kids go to is not a public school but in a lot of ways its sort of an idealized vision of what public schools could be. but maybe its just not possible. i dunno.

fuck your juice box we poppin perrier

pizza boats!

― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Tuesday, February 14, 2012 3:38 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark

I have never heard this term before but I knew immediately to what type of pizza it was referring to as soon as I read it

http://www.roadfood.com/insider/photos/1869.jpg
^real school pizza

our pizza boats came in white cardboard boxes with holes in them

i too recall this

http://i.imgur.com/vTU95.jpg

Our pizza boats were more or less French bread pizza. I liked the flat square school pizza better - it was really good with mustard on it.

idk where I come from, private school is either for catholics who think they're religiously required to go to private school, weirdo conservative christian parents, or for athletes who get recruited to the private school even if they're not of that religion because they stack their football team

parents who want their kid to get "better education" sometimes move to suburbs because they think those schools are somehow better, and I guess there are a handful of montessori elementary schools

feel bad u didnt grow up w/a proper upper class

I didn't even realize private schools were a 'thing' til I got to college ... and realized how much more massively prepared they were for college than I was

other type of flyover private school - place where kids get sent when they're about to get tossed from public school or because parents want their mediocre kid to look better in a small pool

srsly tho rich people are everywhere, there are fancy private schools all over the place

but even w/ public schools, remember visiting a few suburban public schools on academic tournament trips, and it was all john hughes type stuff, they had recording studios, two football fields, clean bathrooms, air conditioning, unbelievable

well how can you go to a school w/o a decent squash court i mean its not the oregon trail

At my synagogue there was a contingent of kids from Sidwell - the same private school Chelsea Clinton went to. I think it cost like $30K a year even back then. I think it conferred some advantages but it's always hard to say how much of that is the family being rich to begin with, how much is being in the rich milieux, and how much is actually the school "quality."

im with mh btw

I don't think school 'quality' matters as much as the fact that the people who work for those schools know how to play the college admission game. calculus is calculus.

exeter and philips academy & c. def give you a leg up in applying to elite schools, I mean who wouldn't turn down an exeter kid, can you even imagine

nothing matters you guys

lagoons school had private philosophy coaches

hah

I had a public philosophy coach

recent study on people who were accepted to harvard/stanford/etc but chose state school instead found no diff in lifetime earnings and so forth, so you can send yr kid to a fancy private school so theyll get into a fancy college but w/e