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He would be a decent writer if he could hold to an actual opinion.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 10 February 2012 17:41 (twelve years ago) link

I did like this: "To a degree, Dave gets a lifetime pass just for proving that humans like himself can exist in reality. The only way he could ruin a Van Halen album would be by not participating."

Johnny Fever, Friday, 10 February 2012 17:44 (twelve years ago) link

But still he has to add "To a degree" to the front of it! It's a good observation and he should stand by it.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 10 February 2012 17:47 (twelve years ago) link

"conversational" is his stylistic trademark, though, and the equivocation helps generate an off the cuff, just-dudes-talkin' vibe. i mean, i actually like klosterman, and that's at least as much a product of his writing style as his taste or analysis. he's funny, gently trenchant, informed about his passions but never arrogant or professorial, and he's got a clear, personal literary voice. you know not only what he thinks about the subject at hand, but "where he's coming from" in general. i appreciate that. he may be the dave barry of pop criticism, but but at least he's not feigning a position of authoritative, journalistic objectivity.

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Friday, 10 February 2012 19:13 (twelve years ago) link

"to a degree" is conversational?

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Friday, 10 February 2012 19:31 (twelve years ago) link

as i see it, his style is conversational, overall. he gets this across in part by foregrounding things like indecision and self-awareness, as though he isn't under a journalistic obligation to maintain a dispassionate and authoritative remove from his subjects. i'm not saying that he tries to duplicate conversational cadence and phrasing in his writing, but rather that his style is fairly casual and he spends as much time describing his own position in the moment as he does the object he's ostensibly considering. i mean, maybe "conversational" isn't exactly the word for what i'm attempting to describe, but it's somewhere between that and the style of a personal essay.

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Friday, 10 February 2012 19:56 (twelve years ago) link

dude sucks

dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 10 February 2012 20:08 (twelve years ago) link

Finally listened to this today. I liked some of the fast tracks, but I thought it was too long by a third and too loud by maybe as much. There used to be lots of space and dynamics in VH, but this is pretty monolithic. First impression, of course, but I don't know how much I'm going to return to this, bless 'em for existing.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 February 2012 20:15 (twelve years ago) link

Shanks did a good job on getting the overall sound right, yeah, but there's definitely no nuance in the production that Templeman and Landee were so good at.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 10 February 2012 20:22 (twelve years ago) link

dude sucks

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Friday, 10 February 2012 20:25 (twelve years ago) link

Six hour Van Halen special on the Howard Stern channel is the arena rock Rashomon. Worth seeking out if you want to hear all the stores.

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 04:43 (twelve years ago) link

From the POV of a DLR-era Van Halen geek, Klosterman nails it. Why does a review have to come down to a single opinion?

ma ck ro ma ck ro (mackro mackro), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 07:39 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, OTM. esp love the summary in the 2nd to last paragraph. sure, the "to a degree" might be unnecessary, but that's such a minor quibble.

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 08:59 (twelve years ago) link

I like Tattoo more and more and more. I seem to be alone in this.

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 11:24 (twelve years ago) link

it has grown on me a little (but i still haven't heard the rest of the album)

CANDY aka JUNK (some dude), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 14:46 (twelve years ago) link

as a piece of music, "tatto" is pretty great. the only real problem is the lyrics, and i have the same objection to "stay frosty". when dave tries to be all comical, hip and topical, he comes off like a drunk uncle at a bar-b-que. and there's nothing really wrong with that, uncles are cool and all, but it does make me cringe a little. stop saying "mousewife to momshell", dude. i know it sounds clever in your head, but it really should have stayed there.

still, though "tattoo" is arguably catchiest thing on ADKOT, the best shot at a hit, it's not what the band does best. the eight-song stretch from "she's the woman" through "the trouble with never" does a much better job of demonstrating where VH are at these days and what they're capable of. i can't believe how sharp, heavy and focused this sounds, given that it's been thirty freaking years since they last released an album i could so much as stand to be in the room with. maybe the key to this is that they've moved back more than forward. as far as this album is concerned, it's still socal in the 70s/80s. cutoffs and empty pools. you can hear both the echoes of zappa and the inspiration that would later be taken by bands like the red hot chili peppers and the minutemen. thing is, despite this fealty to their heroic past, ADKOT doesn't sound like a tired, nostalgic throwback. aside from a few drunklish outliers, these songs are fresh and full of life, familiar yet totally unique. nobody else sounds like this. van halen helped define their era, but they don't have an ossified "period" sound. they just sound like van halen.

alex and eddie haven't slipped a notch in 30 years (or well, slipped more than one), and wolfgang is a better bass player than michael ever was. listening to this album feels like being knocked around inside a pinball machine or a motorcyle engine. the interplay between guitar and drums is dizzying, almost ecstatic. my only real complaint is that the sound is a little one-dimensional. when the band are really ripping, it works just fine, but there isn't much depth or subtlety on the quieter parts, like the unicorny acoustic intros. and the bass is given way too much space to stomp around in, gets oppressive after a while. still, this is a far, far better van halen record than anyone had a right to expect. though i have nothing against his writing, i think klosterman's kind of dick for being so wishy-washy about it.

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:17 (twelve years ago) link

stop saying "mousewife to momshell", dude. i know it sounds clever in your head, but it really should have stayed there.

I feel like it's worth repeating: DLR seemingly ganked the "mousewife to momshell" phrase from someone else.

getting good with gulags (beachville), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:30 (twelve years ago) link

DLR not the best at keeping his thoughts to himself, it is true

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link

it turns out "Tattoo" is based on one of the early tracks too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kCj0VfD22o

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:06 (twelve years ago) link

Wow.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:44 (twelve years ago) link

Has that awesome David Lee Roth scream/sound generator vanished from the internet forever?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 18:21 (twelve years ago) link

It's not where it used to be, but I'm hoping to find it mirrored somewhere.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 18:24 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.realmofdarkness.net/pc/sb/music/dlr/2

it's smdh time in America (will), Thursday, 16 February 2012 03:12 (twelve years ago) link

was there ever a time when DLR didn't come off like a drunk uncle? i mean, that's just who he is.

CANDY aka JUNK (some dude), Thursday, 16 February 2012 13:57 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKTc9VaNIiI

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 16 February 2012 14:00 (twelve years ago) link

Part 2 of the interview series

This one's really great, because they talk about the nuts and bolts of their first WB record deal and why it takes so long to make albums now as opposed to the one-per-year they used to make.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 19:59 (twelve years ago) link

https://vimeo.com/37045572

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 19:59 (twelve years ago) link

was there ever a time when DLR didn't come off like a drunk uncle? i mean, that's just who he is.

yeah, i know, but he used to wear it better, imo. this stuff is more "i-i-i-i-i ain't got nobody" than "ain't talkin' 'bout love". big gap there.

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 23:26 (twelve years ago) link

Saw a "=VH=" logo spray-painted on a wall in Pasadena today.

From a couple days ago...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHUG9KxCZfo

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Saturday, 25 February 2012 03:10 (twelve years ago) link

Was totally going to see them tonight, but I promised a friend I'd see Bettye LaVette. She was good, but she's not Van Halen.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 25 February 2012 05:03 (twelve years ago) link

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m05lz4eh6I1qz5dqgo1_500.jpg
Van Halen 1, Flaming Lips 0

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 15:48 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

took longer than i expected, tbh: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/van-halen-postpone-summer-tour-dates-20120517

that's why god made kokomo (some dude), Friday, 18 May 2012 10:58 (eleven years ago) link

Who would win in a fight between WVH and DLR?

how's life, Friday, 18 May 2012 12:05 (eleven years ago) link

Wolfgang is a strapping 21-year-old man now, not even a question really

that's why god made kokomo (some dude), Friday, 18 May 2012 12:39 (eleven years ago) link

I dunno, man. DLR has always been into martial arts. Now, if we're talking a bong-off, it'd be a toss off, but I bet DLR could toss Wolfgang across the room.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 18 May 2012 12:45 (eleven years ago) link

i expect DLR has a Batman-like file on each of his teammates, describing their weaknesses in detail in case he has to neutralize them.

da croupier, Friday, 18 May 2012 12:47 (eleven years ago) link

also DLR probably would not be above revealing some dark-ass shit about Wolfie's parents, mindfucking the poor kid just long enough for an expertly placed karate chop

da croupier, Friday, 18 May 2012 12:49 (eleven years ago) link

maybe i'm just fooled by DLR's goofy public persona but i almost kind of imagine that he doesn't even really hate the Van Halens and he just keeps getting on their bad side by being obnoxious

that's why god made kokomo (some dude), Friday, 18 May 2012 12:52 (eleven years ago) link

oh i doubt DLR would start the fight. but he would finish it.

da croupier, Friday, 18 May 2012 12:52 (eleven years ago) link

like the seperate dressing room areas thing could totally be "we don't want to have to listen to him talk backstage, the banter during the show is enough"

that's why god made kokomo (some dude), Friday, 18 May 2012 12:53 (eleven years ago) link

xpost See also: Stewart Copeland vs. Sting.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 18 May 2012 12:53 (eleven years ago) link

his autobio definitely suggests DLR is always his electricifying self and the van halen brothers are miserable fellows who can't handle the glory. sammy hagar and michael anthony would at least agree with the last part.

da croupier, Friday, 18 May 2012 12:54 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i loved Crazy In The Heat but it's been like 12 years since i read it, really should revisit it

that's why god made kokomo (some dude), Friday, 18 May 2012 12:56 (eleven years ago) link

Shake Your Rump was my own #1, and has been since pretty much the first time I heard it. I may not have fully understood Paul's Boutique when I was 15, but I understood that Shake Your Rump was otherworldly great.
took longer than i expected, tbh: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/van-halen-postpone-summer-tour-dates-20120517

Expected or not, this is really sad.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 18 May 2012 13:23 (eleven years ago) link

Would pay to hear DLR's "Shake Your Rump"

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 May 2012 13:54 (eleven years ago) link

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3430/3716761946_f89c6263a1_b.jpg

some dude, Friday, 18 May 2012 14:00 (eleven years ago) link

Kiss Unmasked

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 May 2012 14:02 (eleven years ago) link

As cool as that photo is, my first reaction is an urge to punch Sean Penn in the face.

how's life, Friday, 18 May 2012 14:04 (eleven years ago) link

yeah he has been needing a punch in the face for 30 years straight

some dude, Friday, 18 May 2012 14:06 (eleven years ago) link

Mike D looks about 13 and like he has mumps in that picture.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 18 May 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link


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