The EPL bubble has been about to burst for about 12 years. I've resigned myself to the fact that it's not gonna happen.
― once a weak eye sample (onimo), Friday, 10 February 2012 14:04 (twelve years ago) link
Wenger says it will, and people hate him for it.
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 10 February 2012 14:07 (twelve years ago) link
Wenger less reliable on football than onimo imo
― Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Friday, 10 February 2012 14:09 (twelve years ago) link
i dunno, onimo what are your thoughts on mertesacker?
― pandemic, Friday, 10 February 2012 14:14 (twelve years ago) link
I thought he was a great signing but he's looking increasingly like a Big at a club that doesn't suit them.
― once a weak eye sample (onimo), Friday, 10 February 2012 14:25 (twelve years ago) link
a measured response there, Tom D might be on to something.
― pandemic, Friday, 10 February 2012 14:51 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17197269
Villa lost 53m (pre-selling Young and Downing) last year. It is amounts like this which make me assume the league is fucked, long term. Lerner is not going to want to pay that off.
― a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 04:14 (twelve years ago) link
Swiss Ramble does Arsenal
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 1 March 2012 20:08 (twelve years ago) link
That's a great piece. It'll be really interesting to see what happens in the battle between Stan Kroenke and Alisher Usmanov over the next few years as well. The latter's possibly the most transparently crooked man with a stake in a major European club (with the possible exception of Akhmetov at Shakhtar) but he has the resources to put a pretty attractive bid together.
― Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Thursday, 1 March 2012 20:28 (twelve years ago) link
Berlisconi surely
― a hoy hoy, Thursday, 1 March 2012 20:51 (twelve years ago) link
From the link that IK provided
There are clearly issues with Arsenal’s equitable wage structure, which means that the best players like Robin Van Persie are not particularly well remunerated (by modern standards), while fringe players like Abou Diaby, Marouane Chamakh and Manuel Almunia are handsomely rewarded for their efforts. This was epitomised recently by Johan Djourou’s new £50,000 a week contract, which seemed more in recognition of his frequent interviews with Arsenal.com than his defensive ability.
#shotsfired
― pandemic, Thursday, 1 March 2012 20:54 (twelve years ago) link
xp, as bad as Berlusconi might be, i think the worst allegation i've heard against him is that he got started by taking money from the mafia to build a business empire and might have done favours for them along the way.
Usmanov is the mafia.
― Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Thursday, 1 March 2012 21:03 (twelve years ago) link
'fringe' is a hell of a euphemism for 'utter shite' imo
― Streep? That's where I'm a-striking! (darraghmac), Thursday, 1 March 2012 21:05 (twelve years ago) link
Djourou could get a massive contract hosting the National Lottery and game shows for the BBC, no wonder Arsenal are throwing money at him.
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 1 March 2012 21:50 (twelve years ago) link
Arsenal’s expertise can be evidenced by two great statistics: (a) the last time that they reported a loss was way back in 2002; (b) in the last four years alone, they have accumulated staggering profits of £153 million.
Only another 120m to go and we pay off the stadium. I'm convinced they are trying to pay it off early. I just wish that were this the strategy, they'd fucking say so. Otherwise that 153 fucking million, could help us ummm, maybe improve a little.
― a hoy hoy, Friday, 2 March 2012 06:47 (twelve years ago) link
I thought it the article that the board specifically said they weren't going to pay it off early because it was 'good debt'
― pandemic, Friday, 2 March 2012 07:31 (twelve years ago) link
here it is
Many ask whether it would be possible for Arsenal to pay off the outstanding debt early in order to reduce the interest charges, but Gazidis has previously implied that this is unlikely, arguing that not all debt is bad, “The debt that we’re left with is what I would call ‘healthy debt’ – it’s long term, low rates and very affordable for the club.”
― pandemic, Friday, 2 March 2012 07:34 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah sorry, long article, should have read the whole thing before commenting etc.
So basically it is 2014 or bust? hmmm.
― a hoy hoy, Friday, 2 March 2012 07:41 (twelve years ago) link
So hang on, the owner's plan is to get Arsenal debt-free, then flog it for substantially more than they paid for it, leaving the owners filthy rich and Arsenal FC and the fans with a team fully capable of mounting a serious challenge for a Europa League spot? Is that right?
― get ready for the banter (NotEnough), Friday, 2 March 2012 08:52 (twelve years ago) link
Owners already did that/died and now Kroenke is hoping to do that again, I think.
― a hoy hoy, Friday, 2 March 2012 09:00 (twelve years ago) link
Swiss Ramble on Villahttp://swissramble.blogspot.com/2012/03/aston-villa-prophets-and-losses.html
P fucking bleak. Wages-to-turnover ratio of 91%! just for starters.
― pandemic, Saturday, 10 March 2012 16:15 (twelve years ago) link
I don't know what Lerner wants out of this tbh
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 March 2012 16:18 (twelve years ago) link
To lose £100m+ it seemingly
― pandemic, Saturday, 10 March 2012 16:19 (twelve years ago) link
Should be no 'it' there.
― pandemic, Saturday, 10 March 2012 16:20 (twelve years ago) link
It's hard think of a way to blow £100m without having some kind of fun, but that might be it.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 10 March 2012 16:21 (twelve years ago) link
Thing is from the outside looking in you would think it would have been possible to spend £100m less and still be in roughly the same position they are in now.
― pandemic, Saturday, 10 March 2012 16:25 (twelve years ago) link
Manchester United Ltd, the world's best-supported soccer club, filed with U.S. regulators on Tuesday to raise up to $100 million in an initial public offering of its Class A common stock.
The company told the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission in a preliminary prospectus that Jefferies, Credit Suisse, J.P. Morgan, BofA Merrill Lynch and Deutsche Bank Securities are underwriting the IPO.
― boxall, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 21:17 (eleven years ago) link
I'm still amazed by people trying to make money long-term from football. It's football! All you need is a couple of season of bad injuries and your'e fucked! This financial asset-stripping is only good for people who don't like football.
― give me back my 200 dollars (NotEnough), Wednesday, 4 July 2012 12:00 (eleven years ago) link
If anyone fancies part owning Panathinaikos :
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/feature/_/id/1126919/paraskevas:-panathinaikos-reborn-under-fan-ownership?cc=5739#
― pandemic, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 11:01 (eleven years ago) link
http://bundesligafanatic.com/financial-fair-play-the-implications-for-the-teams-in-the-bundesliga/
Great article on how things are working out in the Bundesliga
― D'anesh (dan m), Thursday, 18 October 2012 00:31 (eleven years ago) link
That's excellent.
What I'm having trouble with is how the new, enormous EPL television deal is going to feed in to conditions elsewhere on the continent. Are English clubs going to sweep the board for the next five years?
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 20 October 2012 09:57 (eleven years ago) link
Not too sure. If we pretend that wages in the Prem stay exactly the same as they are now and then add in the new TV money how many clubs in the league would still fall foul of ffp?
Are the majority of clubs here living so far beyond their soon to be increased revenue that they wouldn't be able to increase salary anyway?
― pandemic, Saturday, 20 October 2012 11:27 (eleven years ago) link
the Glazer family have taken the unusual step of buying out DHL, so certain are they of negotiating even greater revenue
I'm giving up trying to understand this stuff
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 26 October 2012 07:02 (eleven years ago) link
surely it's pretty simple, they want a new and bigger deal immediately so they end the dhl deal now?
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Friday, 26 October 2012 08:03 (eleven years ago) link
tbf I did get that bit, it's why anyone would pay even more that is the mystery
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 26 October 2012 08:04 (eleven years ago) link
Bolton in £163.8m of debt. Turnover £25.8m. I don't see how they can ever hope to pay that back.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 17:19 (ten years ago) link
Barcelona cannot register any new signings, not Memphis Depay, Sergio Agüero, Eric García or Emerson Royal, after exceeding the La Liga salary limit. Despite selling Konrad de la Fuente, Jean-Clair Todibo, and Junior Firpo, Barcelona need to reduce their wage bill by €200,000.— Zach Lowy (@ZachLowy) July 5, 2021
Extraordinary
― fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Monday, 5 July 2021 23:19 (two years ago) link
Lmao. They are supposedly even going to pay some players to leave on a free, like Pjanic
― a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 6 July 2021 07:36 (two years ago) link
hmmm, that may account for Trincão coming to us
― Southgate Serves Imperialism (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 July 2021 07:40 (two years ago) link
lol yeah next tweet mentions that
― Southgate Serves Imperialism (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 July 2021 07:41 (two years ago) link
€200,000 can't be the right figure there?
― Tim, Tuesday, 6 July 2021 09:39 (two years ago) link
Saw a clarification that its about the weight of pesos in kilos or some similar slang!
― fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 July 2021 10:11 (two years ago) link
Also just presumed it was per week, and with messi not yet signed i figured that was..... serious
― fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 July 2021 10:12 (two years ago) link
Oh haha yes I suppose it could be a week. Though even that is probably only a mid-range player or three for them.
― Tim, Tuesday, 6 July 2021 10:16 (two years ago) link
i assumed that was a weekly figure i guess, Football Manager not always the best metric for understanding this stuff
― Southgate Serves Imperialism (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 July 2021 10:17 (two years ago) link
Pjanic is on about €300k a week so no major surprise he didn’t volunteer to cancel his contract.
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Tuesday, 6 July 2021 10:18 (two years ago) link
Also Messi apparently earns 100 times more than Junior Firpo.
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Tuesday, 6 July 2021 10:20 (two years ago) link
I am keen that Pjanic doesn't come to the Premier League because of the temptation his name would cause to every my-age, indie-arsed, Egg-from-This-Life football journalist with an untreated Smiths obsession.
― Tim, Tuesday, 6 July 2021 10:24 (two years ago) link
Do ittttt
― fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Tuesday, 6 July 2021 10:29 (two years ago) link