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During the filming of this video, only three people said something about me not really being black
Which I find disturbing.

Fight Ignorance with Ignorance

― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, February 9, 2012 2:56 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/KKKramer-Is-Really-039-Busted-Up-039-2.jpg

"words, man... words"

dave cool, Thursday, 9 February 2012 22:32 (twelve years ago) link

i would just like to say DJP has been otm in this thread

fwiw this is the same guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h131v5spb90
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_-JHErAP9Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJnBb8p8ijM

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 9 February 2012 23:08 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, this is pretty similar to the Michael Richards incident, but to be honest, I'd say a lil more all like

http://insidepulse.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/David-Duke-300x395.jpg

amirite?

SNEEZED GOING DOWN STEPS, PAIN WHEN PUTTING SOCKS ON (Deric W. Haircare), Thursday, 9 February 2012 23:10 (twelve years ago) link

this doesn't remind me of Michael Richards at all tbh beyond "white guy does something racist." The "words" thing was Michael Richards trying to cover his ass immediately after reverting to horrifying racist-beast mode, whereas the "fight ignorance with ignorance"/blackface thing was premediated

the greates (crüt), Thursday, 9 February 2012 23:16 (twelve years ago) link

also, michael richards "accidentally" exposed his own racist hostility, then backtracked. internet comedy dude is trying to use the superficial signifiers of racism to critique the inherent stupidity of racism. and failing miserably. couldn't even watch that "asian" thing.

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Thursday, 9 February 2012 23:22 (twelve years ago) link

also, michael richards "accidentally" exposed his own racist hostility, then backtracked. internet comedy dude is trying to use the superficial signifiers of racism to critique the inherent stupidity of racism. and failing miserably. couldn't even watch that "asian" thing.

― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Thursday, February 9, 2012 5:22 PM (48 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

idk to me it seems more like he kinda wanted to try blackface but wasn't sure how he could make it ok

D-40, Friday, 10 February 2012 00:12 (twelve years ago) link

that's not the impression I got at all

the greates (crüt), Friday, 10 February 2012 00:14 (twelve years ago) link

to me, once you put on the blackface & try to intellectualize your defense of it, you might as well be saying 'its ok to say the nword in SOME contexts' then dropping it 45 times in a speech on how racism is bad

D-40, Friday, 10 February 2012 00:17 (twelve years ago) link

like, somewhere in there, part of him MUST have been on some getting-away-with-it thing

D-40, Friday, 10 February 2012 00:18 (twelve years ago) link

the part of him that's a "comedian" probably

dave cool, Friday, 10 February 2012 00:18 (twelve years ago) link

that's not the impression I got at all

yeah, me either. is he getting off on "getting away with" something transgressive? hell yes, absolutely. is he specifically getting off on ridiculing black people by wearing blackface? i doubt it. but you never know...

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Friday, 10 February 2012 00:23 (twelve years ago) link

where is that Sarah Silverman thing upthread from...? I don't remember seeing that on the actual Chapelle Show

xxxp

max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 10 February 2012 00:25 (twelve years ago) link

I kept waiting for the punchline

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Friday, 10 February 2012 00:27 (twelve years ago) link

this guy has to be a performance artist

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Friday, 10 February 2012 00:28 (twelve years ago) link

he prob fancies himself a performance artist

⚓ (gr8080), Friday, 10 February 2012 00:33 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, me either. is he getting off on "getting away with" something transgressive? hell yes, absolutely. is he specifically getting off on ridiculing black people by wearing blackface? i doubt it. but you never know...

― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Thursday, February 9, 2012 6:23 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

why do you doubt it, other than deric haircare vouching for him?

D-40, Friday, 10 February 2012 00:45 (twelve years ago) link

You can't tell racial jokes at a KKK meeting? You could probably get paid handsomely for the most juvenile material.

Silverman's bit came from the Jimmy Kimmell show.

pplains, Friday, 10 February 2012 00:52 (twelve years ago) link

"You know who's stupid? BLACK PEOPLE. Am I right?" *collects check*

pplains, Friday, 10 February 2012 00:53 (twelve years ago) link

why do you doubt it, other than deric haircare vouching for him?

subjective, just not the impression i get. i take the sincerity of his antiracist intent at face value, esp given the fact that he's dedicated a fair amount to it. including risking looking like a huge racist asshole.

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Friday, 10 February 2012 00:53 (twelve years ago) link

That's in response to the video underneath his stereotype video. I couldn't watch it after seeing the Chinese hat.

pplains, Friday, 10 February 2012 00:53 (twelve years ago) link

I watched the entirety of the stereotype video and felt it was just too next level for me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Friday, 10 February 2012 00:58 (twelve years ago) link

must've been like reading Ulysses for the first time, I understand.

pplains, Friday, 10 February 2012 00:59 (twelve years ago) link

i have to confess that i'm responding to deej as though i hadn't tried to watch the asian thing and gotten so disgusted that i had to shut it off.

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Friday, 10 February 2012 01:04 (twelve years ago) link

yeah this guy isnt half as genius as he thinks he is but imo that shouldn't get in the way of what he got on tape at BYU

⚓ (gr8080), Friday, 10 February 2012 01:19 (twelve years ago) link

You ask anyone who you think of first when you say Black History Month, they're going to say MLK. Man's got his own federal holiday.

(I'd say G.W. Carver, but I'm a little obsessed.)

pplains, Friday, 10 February 2012 02:58 (twelve years ago) link

W.E.B. Dubois, Harriet Tubman, Carver for sure, anyone black who isn't american but was influential in US or international history...

valleys of your mind (mh), Friday, 10 February 2012 03:17 (twelve years ago) link

i'm confused about what we're doing here. you guys aren't just naming famous historical black ppl you've heard of, right?

Mordy, Friday, 10 February 2012 03:28 (twelve years ago) link

well it is the rolling "is this racist?" thread

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Friday, 10 February 2012 03:30 (twelve years ago) link

No, just ones that every US school kid has mentioned constantly for years!

valleys of your mind (mh), Friday, 10 February 2012 03:56 (twelve years ago) link

My point is that going HAHA at college kids naming MLK right off the bat as an important figure in Black History isn't really "shocking".

Only some hipster kid would name Ronald Demon first and then MLK.

pplains, Friday, 10 February 2012 04:26 (twelve years ago) link

The video would've been sub-average as far as your idiot in the street videos go, but the fact that he decided to do it in blackface and go yo yo yo dropped it way under the Is this Racist? bar.

pplains, Friday, 10 February 2012 04:27 (twelve years ago) link

its like leno jaywalked on himself :(

dave cool, Friday, 10 February 2012 15:16 (twelve years ago) link

the few
the proud
the horribly embarrassed (hopefully)

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Friday, 10 February 2012 15:31 (twelve years ago) link

Also requesting controversial forks-style mod-lols temporary thread title change to rolling "Is KISS Racist?" thread

beachville, Friday, 10 February 2012 15:33 (twelve years ago) link

(nb: not really)

beachville, Friday, 10 February 2012 15:33 (twelve years ago) link

The Marine Corps has said it does not plan any discipline because there was no malicious intent. The Marines mistakenly believed the “SS” in the shape of white lightning bolts on the blue flag were a nod to sniper scouts — not members of Adolf Hitler’s special unit that murdered millions of Jews, gypsies and others, said Maj. Gabrielle Chapin, a spokeswoman at Camp Pendleton, Calif.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-XjwhKwX8vtg/Ta2BI1rSESI/AAAAAAAAAQc/TNf1tgE3aPo/s1600/0-Film-Noir-Poster---Born-Yesterday-01-prev.jpg

The Large Hardon Collider (Phil D.), Friday, 10 February 2012 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

This is interesting:

DULUTH - A close-up of a white woman's face confronts motorists from billboards plastered along major roads here with the message, in large, black letters: "It's hard to see racism when you're white."

The billboards are part of the Un-Fair Campaign, which also includes dozens of posters that have appeared in office windows, including one poster depicting a young woman with this message written in black marker across her forehead: "Is white skin really fair skin?"

One of the stated goals of the campaign is to create a community dialogue. In that regard, it got more than it bargained for.

Hundreds of the city's white residents have complained that the campaign's kick-off images and messages are offensive. The campaign, they say, blames all racism on whites and implies that white people aren't smart enough to recognize racism.

Meanwhile, the campaign's defenders and sponsors, including Mayor Don Ness, say they've received dozens of hateful messages and e-mails from all over the world, as news of the campaign hit websites that cater to white supremacists and other racists. One message to Ness: "Die, scum, die."

"I became kind of a lightning rod for groups outside our community," said Ness, who was accused in messages from as far away as Scotland of inviting "white genocide" and being a "traitor" to his race.

"It was disappointing to see the level of hate and ugliness," he said.

Ness said he's also heard "heartfelt objections" to the campaign from many "thoughtful, well-meaning" Duluthians.

One of those citizens, Phil Pierson, created a Facebook page called "Stop Racist Unfair Campaign" to air objections to it. More than 425 people became members.

Pierson frequently posts messages admonishing members to keep the discussion civil, and he deplores the white supremacist rhetoric showing up in some messages to community leaders.

Still, said Pierson, the campaign erred by opening with such jarring messages and images.

I'm not surprised that this is blowing up, the world being what the world is. I'm am, however, smdh at the notion that the message "It's hard to see racism if you're white" is somehow offensive to whites. Really? I mean, of course it's hard to see racism if you're not the object of it.

The campaign, they say, blames all racism on whites and implies that white people aren't smart enough to recognize racism.

Are these people 12-year-olds? ffs

Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Friday, 10 February 2012 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

you have been cordially invited to 'white genocide' please r.s.v.p.

am0n, Friday, 10 February 2012 15:37 (twelve years ago) link

gbx to thread! I want to know if there are actually that many people in Duluth who are not white

valleys of your mind (mh), Friday, 10 February 2012 15:38 (twelve years ago) link

white people aren't smart enough to recognize racism.

new thread title

rob, Friday, 10 February 2012 15:39 (twelve years ago) link

Duluth's population has stabilized: 85,493 in 1990, 86,918 in 2000, 86,265 in 2010. As of the census[1] of 2000, there were 35,500 households and 19,918 families in the city.[3] The population density was 1,278.1 /sq mi (493.5 /km2). There were 36,994 housing units at an average density of 544.0 /sq mi (210.0 /km2). The racial makeup of the city was 92.7% White, 1.6% Black or African American, 2.4% Native American, 1.1% Asian, 0.0% Pacific Islander, 0.3% from other races, and 1.8% from two or more races. 1.1% of the population was Hispanic or Latino of any race.[13] The population's ancestry was 23.6% German, 16.8% Norwegian, 15.3% Swedish, 10.6% Irish, 7.1% Polish, 7.0% English, 5.1% Italian, 3.2% Scottish or Scotch-Irish, 1.5% Danish, and 0.4% Welsh according to the 2000 Census.[14] Thus, slightly more than one-third of Duluth's residents were of Scandinavian (Norwegian, Swedish, or Danish) ancestry.

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Friday, 10 February 2012 15:39 (twelve years ago) link

it's hard for a Welshman in Duluth, MN

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Friday, 10 February 2012 15:40 (twelve years ago) link

Is anyone here actually offended by this?
http://justpiper.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/racism-bill.jpg

Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Friday, 10 February 2012 15:41 (twelve years ago) link

92.7% White

to be honest, I was expecting 96%

my reaction to that billboard is "well, yeah"

valleys of your mind (mh), Friday, 10 February 2012 15:42 (twelve years ago) link

more accurate would be "it's hard to see racism when you never are its target"

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Friday, 10 February 2012 15:43 (twelve years ago) link

the sun reflects off our alabaster cheekbones, making it hard to see anything.

pplains, Friday, 10 February 2012 15:46 (twelve years ago) link

blinded by the white

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Friday, 10 February 2012 15:46 (twelve years ago) link

to be fair, you get looked down upon if you don't look at least a little nordic

valleys of your mind (mh), Friday, 10 February 2012 15:47 (twelve years ago) link


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