rolling "Is This Racist?" thread

Just for the sake of perspective, I'm being more emphatic than I might otherwise in my defensiveness because Dave's one of the more aggressively decent dudes I've known. I didn't honestly expect my personal opinion of him to affect anyone's opinion of his video.

er, no "on your face." xpost

if you just keep covering your face in alternating layers of black and white paint on your face, does it stop being racist at some point? assume you are not on acid.

― the greates (crüt), Thursday, February 9, 2012 1:52 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

what does the explanation say, i can't risk watching more of that shit at work.

During the filming of this video, only three people said something about me not really being black

Which I find disturbing.

Fight Ignorance with Ignorance

aggressively decent

I think of myself as kind of "passively ok"

"Fight Ignorance with Ignorance" seems to be the name of the show/deal/whatever he's running, which if this video is anything to base it on is sub-Borat-style ambush games intended to get the interviewee to embarrass the shit out of themselves.

I don't think this is particularly well done given how he has come across to everyone itt except like two ppl as a massive racist (one of whom knows him IRL, lol)

i thought we'd already gone through a big discussion w/ a huge OTM nabisco post & people understood that divining who is and isn't technically 'a racist' on stuff like this is total point missing

that's troo, but i think it is important to keep yr eye not just on what people are doing in a mechanical sense but why they're doing it and what they're trying to say. does not excuse dude's dumbass comedy video, of course.

It's obvious what this this guy's intentions are. Mostly, though, he biffed it and made a lot of people mad. Even if he had somehow pulled off the video successfully, he was still walking around campus in blackface and no one had any context.

Sure, he drew attention to the fact that almost none of the people he spoke with called him out for being in blackface, but maybe every one of them has a friend who knows that they were just trying to be a part of this sophisticated, edgy thing and they're really very smart and etc

lol exactly

that's troo, but i think it is important to keep yr eye not just on what people are doing in a mechanical sense but why they're doing it and what they're trying to say. does not excuse dude's dumbass comedy video, of course.

― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Thursday, February 9, 2012 1:59 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the road to hell is paved with etc

"etc" = "dumbass comedy videos"

white dudes trying to say something with comedy videos about racism which involve racist imagery or language seem to be more interested in the shocking lols than in saying anything (cf 'the amazing racist', if anyone remembers that piece of work...)

pretty much my m.o. whenever i cop race humor on here.

just trying to shock some ignorance, that's all.

"Before you decide to do your edgy racial shit, go back and read some of the harsh criticism that rained down on Chapelle, Spike Lee, Whoopie & other black artists for their edgy race-related material/defence of dumbass boyfriends, and say to yourself, oh shit, and I'm a WHITE person."
- Form my forthcoming book, Fellow White People, for Your Consideration

the hell is that from.

Form my forthcoming book

aw, do I have to

we really need to get away from white people humor -- whitepeoplelikethis, Martin Mull, whatever.

Gives white people an excuse to laugh at themselves and then go dress up in blackface and roam the woods.

what a horribly-formed "book"

wait what did martin mull do?

nevermind, i'm not really ready to feel disappionted in martin mull today

^^

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089277/

will have to mull over this Mull development

he's actually a really good and smart and funny guy.

in fairness, that was in 1985

Obv a low point in white people history

I dunno, that's the year Psychocandy and The Head On The Door came out

no this was the low point in white people history

http://www.break.com/tv-shows/saturday-night-live/white-guys-wife-2161938.html

apex of white ascendance = gloomy rock dudez w big hair and eyeliner, obv

Birth of an alternative nation

During the filming of this video, only three people said something about me not really being black
Which I find disturbing.

Fight Ignorance with Ignorance

― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Thursday, February 9, 2012 2:56 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/KKKramer-Is-Really-039-Busted-Up-039-2.jpg

"words, man... words"

i would just like to say DJP has been otm in this thread

fwiw this is the same guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h131v5spb90
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_-JHErAP9Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJnBb8p8ijM

Yeah, this is pretty similar to the Michael Richards incident, but to be honest, I'd say a lil more all like

http://insidepulse.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/David-Duke-300x395.jpg

amirite?

this doesn't remind me of Michael Richards at all tbh beyond "white guy does something racist." The "words" thing was Michael Richards trying to cover his ass immediately after reverting to horrifying racist-beast mode, whereas the "fight ignorance with ignorance"/blackface thing was premediated

also, michael richards "accidentally" exposed his own racist hostility, then backtracked. internet comedy dude is trying to use the superficial signifiers of racism to critique the inherent stupidity of racism. and failing miserably. couldn't even watch that "asian" thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aafuYtZ3nIE

also, michael richards "accidentally" exposed his own racist hostility, then backtracked. internet comedy dude is trying to use the superficial signifiers of racism to critique the inherent stupidity of racism. and failing miserably. couldn't even watch that "asian" thing.

― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Thursday, February 9, 2012 5:22 PM (48 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

idk to me it seems more like he kinda wanted to try blackface but wasn't sure how he could make it ok

that's not the impression I got at all

to me, once you put on the blackface & try to intellectualize your defense of it, you might as well be saying 'its ok to say the nword in SOME contexts' then dropping it 45 times in a speech on how racism is bad

like, somewhere in there, part of him MUST have been on some getting-away-with-it thing

the part of him that's a "comedian" probably

that's not the impression I got at all

yeah, me either. is he getting off on "getting away with" something transgressive? hell yes, absolutely. is he specifically getting off on ridiculing black people by wearing blackface? i doubt it. but you never know...

where is that Sarah Silverman thing upthread from...? I don't remember seeing that on the actual Chapelle Show

xxxp

I kept waiting for the punchline

this guy has to be a performance artist

he prob fancies himself a performance artist

yeah, me either. is he getting off on "getting away with" something transgressive? hell yes, absolutely. is he specifically getting off on ridiculing black people by wearing blackface? i doubt it. but you never know...

― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Thursday, February 9, 2012 6:23 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

why do you doubt it, other than deric haircare vouching for him?

You can't tell racial jokes at a KKK meeting? You could probably get paid handsomely for the most juvenile material.

Silverman's bit came from the Jimmy Kimmell show.

"You know who's stupid? BLACK PEOPLE. Am I right?" *collects check*