Superhero Filmmakers: Where's Our Watchmen?

Looks interesting to me! Virtual sets/actors is the only way this thing COULD work, short of being an animation (which I can't believe no one had a serious go at).

DG, it wasn't all shot in front of a green screen! It was shot mostly on practical sets!

i know, i read the production blog from time to time. still looks weird tho. that shot of dr manhattan blowing up a viet cong looks like some 1996 command and conquer cutscene

> would love to hear deeznuts explain how this movie is inherently superior to the comics by virtue of its being a movie

-- Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, July 17, 2008 7:59 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Music is also inherently superior to sculpture.

ok haven't seen trailer but stills look fucking awesome

the only good I can see coming of this is that maybe Dave Gibbons got a lot of money

My status is still intrigued but skeptical. Only universally stinking reviews will stop me checking it out out of curiosity, though.

we get it dude. you dont like it. xp

Another link for the trailer:
http://io9.com/5026402/watch-how-faithful-watchmen-will-be

I, like Shakey Mo, love this trailer and I will be first in line.

i always imagined theire outfits to look way rattier/homemade/not like batman begins

"I guess I look pretty Devo, huh?"

yep

top marks for manhattanpants

omgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomg

As my wife likes to remind me, I am quite often way too cynical for my own good. So as far as this movie goes, I've decided to just geek the fuck out and enjoy it.

love the nipples on the Ozymandias suit

I loved that B&W still that was released a few months back but I absolutely hate the trailer. Eh, I'll still see it.

why is Ozymandias wearing nipple-plated leatherwear rather than the greco-egyptian shit his entire persona is centered on

seriously so much wrong, you guys are on crack

"You can't even turn the pages on this movie!"

It's, like, metatextual, Shakey. Like how the comic was a comic about comics, the movie is a movie about movies. Therefore the "modern" (i.e., 1985) heroes in the movie have costumes more like current movie heroes, just like how 1990s Batman costume was so much different from Adam West costume.

Yes, it's anachronistic. So is Richard Nixon in the White House in 1985. Deal.

this can't be bad! rorschach's mask moves! oooooooooh

Some panels that correspond with the stills blueski posted above:

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/4835/watchmen1up7.jpg

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/2829/watchmen2xv6.jpeg

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/7523/watchmen3qw5.jpeg

Like how the comic was a comic about comics, the movie is a movie about movies.

does not compute

Uh, ok. I guess not, if you're determined to be dumb/stubborn/whatever.

you might note that I'm not complaining about anachronisms - which are crucial to the "alternate reality" theme of the story - I'm complaining abotu STUPID SHIT that is in there for no reason and has nothing to do with the character other than "oooh we need to have the bad guy in black. leather. with nipples. wouldn't that be cool."

saying its a movie about movies is a gross misrepresentation - its a movie about a comic book about comic books. unless they've completely re-written the plot.

I wonder if this will be worse than V For Vendetta was.

Snyder has exlicitly stated that Ozymandias has nipples because of the Clooney-era Batsuit, in the spirit of recontextualization that Pancakes mentions. Like it or not, it's definitely not them trying to be "bad guy in scary outfit" or whatever.

Er maybe it's because designing a costume that an actual guy has to actually wear is different from just drawing one? The metal looking collar and cuffs he has in the book look quite impractical; they're still there in the movie, just a bit more realistic. And maybe on screen a poncey purple robe really doesn't look like an effective superhero costume.

xp.

i thought homeboy had nips in the comix

http://www.flytecrewblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/watchpeanuts.jpg

okay I would watch that 24/7

Linus as the Comedian is rather inspired

I wonder if this will be worse than V For Vendetta was.

I wouldn't think it was possible but Snyder looks set to prove me wrong.

ref'ing Schumacher Batman films = stupidest excuse I've ever heard

I think Shroeder should be Manhattan and Charlie Brown the Night Owl. Of course that makes Pigpen Oz which makes no sense at all.

so in the spirit of "recontextualization" did all the Minutemen don costumes cuz they were inspired to fight crime by Fantastic Four: The Rise of the Silver Surfer? Or was it more of a Dolph Lundgren-as-the-Punisher thing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmen_(film)

In December 2006, comic book artists Adam Hughes and John Cassaday were confirmed to work on character and costume design for Watchmen. Costume tests were being done by March 2007. 300 associate producer Wesley Coller played Rorschach in a costume test, which Snyder inserted into an R-rated trailer for 300. Although he intended to stay faithful to the look of the characters in the comic, Snyder intended Nite Owl to look scarier, and wanted Ozymandias to possess authentic Egyptian attire and artifacts. Nite Owl and Silk Spectre changed most from the comic, as Snyder felt "audiences might not appreciate the naiveté of the original costumes. So, there has been some effort to give them a (...) modern look — and not modern in the sense of 2007, but modern in terms of the superhero aesthetic". Snyder also wanted the costumes to "comment directly on many of today’s modern masked vigilantes": The Ozymandias costume, with its molded muscles and nipples, parodies the costumes in Batman Forever (1995) and Batman & Robin (1997). Set designers selected four Kansas City sculptors' works for use in the set of Dr. Manhattan's apartment after discovering their works on the Internet.

So, it looks like everyone's right! It's meta-commentary on modern superhero costumes and an attempt to pander to the audience with glossier costumes. You may now make out.

test marketing indicated widespread nipple parody approval

ref'ing Schumacher Batman films = stupidest excuse I've ever heard

Yeah because it's not like THOSE had any impact on the culture, right?

so in the spirit of "recontextualization" did all the Minutemen don costumes cuz they were inspired to fight crime by Fantastic Four: The Rise of the Silver Surfer? Or was it more of a Dolph Lundgren-as-the-Punisher thing.

Jesus Christ, Shakey, he's keeping the thing set in 1985, he's keeping the 1940s "Minutemen," by all accounts he's keeping the ending, what the hell is your problem here? The "recontextualization" amounts to dealing with these characters in the medium in which they're appearing, which is NOT A PIECE OF PAPER in case you hadn't noticed. If you want this movie to be even remotely watchable, Oz's costume from the comic simply would not fly. Maybe on some mid-budget Sci-Fi Channel original, but not here.

I mean, "OMFG OZYMANDIAS HAS NIPPLES THIS MOVIE IS RUINED" puts the dumbest Star Trek fanboy shit to shame.

Anyway, in the trailer scene where Dr. M appears in the cafeteria, you can definitely see some blue wang, so there's that.

Also:

http://www.toshistation.com/images/watchbabies1.jpg

"I mean, "OMFG OZYMANDIAS HAS NIPPLES THIS MOVIE IS RUINED" puts the dumbest Star Trek fanboy shit to shame."

I think Shakey has other reasons for thinking this movie is going to suck.

Like the fact that it's directed by a complete moron for example.

my point is this should not have been made into a movie at all, precisely because it will not translate well to film. Not because of all the minor details like, say, Ozzy's nipples (although those do matter - Moore was very meticulous in making every minor detail relevant to the larger plot), but because it is, as you say, a comic book about comics, and trying to make that into a movie about movies about comic books while also adhering tto the original plot is simply not possible. This film is a stupid fucking idea and I can't believe any of you are willing to pay money to further this fuckwit Snyder's career.

"OMFG I SAW A BIT OF BILLY CRUDUPS BLUE WANG THIS MOVIE IS GREAT" > "OMFG OZYMANDIAS HAS NIPPLES THIS MOVIE IS RUINED"

Watchmen poll

Not because of all the minor details like, say, Ozzy's nipples (although those do matter - Moore was very meticulous in making every minor detail relevant to the larger plot)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/72/LolitaPoster.jpg

TS: James Mason's wang vs. Shelly Winter's nipples

obv. Veidt's erect nipples are a commentary on the political polarity yet similarity between Nixon's victorious regime and the Soviet bloc and the resultant paradox

Unfortunately for you Pancakes this is more like the remake of Lolita.