Come anticipate Fabio Capello's two years as England manager with me

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as far as it pertains to my enjoyment of football anyway

pandemic, Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:19 (twelve years ago) link

i can see arry changing the centre back pairing, but if he keeps gerrard/lampard/rooney it'll be because they'll play to a good level for him.

He's not been shy dropping players for us, tbf

Parker in and captain for sure tho, and king on the plane. Already a huge improvement on capello's wc squad

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:21 (twelve years ago) link

LOL @ talk of 'Arry "wanting to show loyalty to Spurs", aye right. Once a Gooner, eh?

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:24 (twelve years ago) link

this was sort of my thinking, if he can get gerrard or lampard to perform to their ability for England then good luck to him, but jokes about his nephew aside he doesn't seem to me a guy who'll play players purely on reputation

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:24 (twelve years ago) link

he doesn't seem to me a guy who'll play players purely on reputation

there is a hell of a difference between people half-paying attention to your spurs team playing third on motd and dropping stevie me

a hoy hoy, Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:26 (twelve years ago) link

(specifically dropping him from the england squad, sorry.)

a hoy hoy, Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:26 (twelve years ago) link

in all seriousness, taking away the wheeler dealer temptation will only improve him

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:28 (twelve years ago) link

The Nult has spoken

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:28 (twelve years ago) link

King on the plane is just asking for trouble I think, he can't play enough in a major tournament to make it worth the place. Much as I love him, it failed at the last World Cup.

I'm not sure Redknapp will want to walk away while Spurs are (at least theoretically) still in the title race. I don't think they'll win but I don't see him wanting to walk away from the possibility, especially if United or City trip over themselves at some point.

Matt DC, Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:29 (twelve years ago) link

The FA may be able to muddle through the friendly against the Netherlands at Wembley later this month, but the clock will then start ticking towards that showpiece and the business of putting England in shape to make an impact.

a hoy hoy, Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:29 (twelve years ago) link

Had to read that twice

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:30 (twelve years ago) link

King has played a lot more regularly this season than last, right? Personally I think he is ~a rare good dressing room influence~ and good enough that if he only plays half the games, it'll be worth it. More worthwhile than taking rooney for him not to play in the group stages anyway

a hoy hoy, Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:31 (twelve years ago) link

why not just let the "senior players" manage the team, they all fucking try to do that anyway

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:32 (twelve years ago) link

You want a settled back pairing though, not one you have to keep changing because King can't play more than one game a week.

Matt DC, Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:33 (twelve years ago) link

tabloids to appoint 1 player as manager based on phone-in vote from EDL supporters

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:33 (twelve years ago) link

Terry + Rio duumvirate

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:33 (twelve years ago) link

sam otm

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:34 (twelve years ago) link

working for spurs, matt

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:35 (twelve years ago) link

btw did anybody else wonder whether the FA's handling of l'affaire Terry was a calculated insult to Capello? timing of yesterday's events was...odd

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:36 (twelve years ago) link

nah

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:38 (twelve years ago) link

tabloids to appoint 1 player as manager based on phone-in vote from EDL supporters

Sky to commission production company responsible for "Who Do You Think You Are" to make series investigating backgrounds of prospective England managers, those whose English ancestry can be traced furthest back to go head-to-head in phone-in vote from EDL supporters

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:38 (twelve years ago) link

imo you have king + dawson as yr first choices, as they already know each other so well and then dawson + yr second choice on the training ground while king spends that time in the massuese room, so dawson+secondy have at least had time together.

a hoy hoy, Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:39 (twelve years ago) link

i wondered about it NV but then maybe went a bit far as to thinking if it's plausible that 2 players and a manager have been paid to act out a racist row and resignation to get another managerial candidate out of legal trouble so can take over a job. good plot i say.

Rosie 47 (ken c), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:39 (twelve years ago) link

not a full-on conspiracy - but i'm not sure that Capello was pissed that Terry was removed so much as pissed about being cut out of the process. it seems to have been handled pretty clumsily lol surprise

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:40 (twelve years ago) link

I note that younger players were pretty solid in expressing their disappointment in Capello's departure, older players generally keeping shtum.

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:43 (twelve years ago) link

But I suppose the young 'uns likely to be tweeting more, pesky kids

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:43 (twelve years ago) link

Rooney said he was gutted just before he demanded an English be placed into the wicker man

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:44 (twelve years ago) link

england should play dawson + king in defense, parker DM, defoe and crouch up front, and lennon too.

Rosie 47 (ken c), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:44 (twelve years ago) link

i forgot thudd!!!

Rosie 47 (ken c), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:47 (twelve years ago) link

what a team

Rosie 47 (ken c), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:47 (twelve years ago) link

The FA can't do anything without fucking up, ever. The idea of them subtly manipulating Capello out the door is preposterous.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:48 (twelve years ago) link

fabio we've had a meeting, john terry's not the captain anymore. okay mate.

pandemic, Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:50 (twelve years ago) link

Dunno, this guy Bernstein seems a cut above? (xp)

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:51 (twelve years ago) link

if you don't think players good enough for epl top three are good enough for england i dunno

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:51 (twelve years ago) link

^ no misspelling there btw (xp)

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:51 (twelve years ago) link

thudd lennon parker and y'know whoever ye want on left

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:52 (twelve years ago) link

marcotti's translation of capello's tv interview is that capello was asked about the fa's decision and if he agreed with it. capello said that he wouldn't have made the same decision because he believes in innocent until proven guilty but that the decision wasn't his to make because the fa deals with matters with regard to player conduct.

pandemic, Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:53 (twelve years ago) link

Apart from anything else, if the verdict had gone the other way yesterday, the FA would've brought about a situation where Stuart Pearce is the outstanding candidate for the job.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:54 (twelve years ago) link

a lot of spurs players are good enough for england because england don't have many good players and whatever manager they choose that will be the case. I don't think gerrard/lampard get consistently picked merely on reputation but because they really are the best of a bad lot, or at least have been over the past decade.

pandemic, Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:56 (twelve years ago) link

if you don't think players good enough for epl top three are good enough for england i dunno

Carrick and Scholes midfield for the Euros then?

Number None, Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:58 (twelve years ago) link


robinson
walker dawson king rooney
parker
lennon thudd Jenas
crouch defoe

Rosie 47 (ken c), Thursday, 9 February 2012 10:59 (twelve years ago) link

No place for Konchesky then?

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 11:00 (twelve years ago) link

find me a utd fan thinks carrick and scholes are good enough

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 11:03 (twelve years ago) link

gerrard and lampard got picked because of their club form, neither of them has performed at international level and there comes a point where you might as well let some other poor schlub have a chance. individual ability not being the only mark of a class player, maybe pick blokes who can follow instructions and play for their team?

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 11:11 (twelve years ago) link

Lampard's been better for England than Gerrard?

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 11:13 (twelve years ago) link

both pish

dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 11:14 (twelve years ago) link

i think they've both proven that at club level also.

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 11:14 (twelve years ago) link

xxxp to nv

Dr Frogbius (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 February 2012 11:14 (twelve years ago) link

still think becks should come back as captain

Rosie 47 (ken c), Thursday, 9 February 2012 11:15 (twelve years ago) link

Don't watch England intently enough to notice how Lampard performs tbh, Gerrard is more blatantly shite

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 February 2012 11:15 (twelve years ago) link


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