Rolling like tumble weed Afro-Latin music thread 2012 (salsa, cumbia, reggaeton, tribal guarachero, etc.)

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Judging by the audio clips, this sounds like it would be way too timba for me, regardless of your attempt to put that issue aside.

_Rudipherous_, Thursday, 9 February 2012 04:35 (five years ago) Permalink

If I had any money to spend on CDs, I'd be buying a lot of these dubiously legal Rareza reissues.

_Rudipherous_, Thursday, 9 February 2012 04:41 (five years ago) Permalink

singer and sometimes writer with the Joe Cuba Sextet

curmudgeon, Friday, 10 February 2012 14:52 (five years ago) Permalink

I have a major aversion to Timba too and had no interest whatsoever in listening to this when I was sent a copy. But believe me Mis 22 Anos is a stunning record, I can't really explain, you just have to hear it with your own ears. You get no feeling whatsoever as to the twists and turns each track takes on those clips, there's some very hard and funky salsa in those grooves.

The Subway Salsa Montuno Records release is a killer too.

Marcomarcos, Saturday, 11 February 2012 01:02 (five years ago) Permalink

I will give it a shot

curmudgeon, Saturday, 11 February 2012 14:12 (five years ago) Permalink

Marco, have you heard the new Bloque 53 yet? I know you like them (not a fan myself). I hear a lot of modern Cuban influence in the vocals on the first clip here:;;393

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:12 (five years ago) Permalink

Listening to clips from the new Azucar Negra. Ugh, real timba first thing in the morning.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:17 (five years ago) Permalink

Really difficult.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:18 (five years ago) Permalink

Funny though, I have to admit that in the handful of dance classes I've taken over the past year or so, when instructors throw on Los Van Van or Manolito I end up enjoyng it, even if I initially wrinkle my face up.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:20 (five years ago) Permalink

God these [expletive deleted] really stick to the formula most of the time. I bet the timberos are going to love this.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 16:22 (five years ago) Permalink

Just starting to check this out now. I can't remember why I ever liked Mayito Rivera's vocals. And why do the trumpets always sound the same in practically every contemporary Cuban song? It's a disctinctive Cuban trumpet sound and it bugs me inexplicably. The groove is good (except for that annoying heavy-footed thump they have started throwing in on so many songs). As usual, they do get credit for energy.

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 19 February 2012 01:33 (five years ago) Permalink

Oh, "this" is the NG la Banda album, not the Azucar Negra that was the last thing I'd mentioned on the thread.

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 19 February 2012 01:36 (five years ago) Permalink

Looks like this is the Ned S*blette show you are talking about upthread

Dalai Mixture (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 19 February 2012 02:34 (five years ago) Permalink

That trumpet sound is extremely pinched. Is it a combination of using mutes and some sort of electronic effect? I just don't know, but it's all over contemporary Cuban music (and has been since some point in the 90s). There have been times I've semi-liked it because it's so identifiable, but it just bugs me again at this point. Does anyone else have any idea what I'm talking about?

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 19 February 2012 04:37 (five years ago) Permalink

I don't know, man, this album sounds like timba to me. I don't see how it's so different.

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 19 February 2012 04:40 (five years ago) Permalink

Really hate the way they use the traditional drum-kit.

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 19 February 2012 04:57 (five years ago) Permalink

But again, they have something going on and it has a lot of energy--but: ugh.

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 19 February 2012 05:00 (five years ago) Permalink

Plus too much Latin jazz.

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 19 February 2012 05:50 (five years ago) Permalink

I don't WANT the three underscored with a heavy drum thud. Why? Why do they do that?

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 19 February 2012 15:59 (five years ago) Permalink

Deforms the rhythm, imo.

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 19 February 2012 15:59 (five years ago) Permalink

How is this album not quintessentially timba?

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 19 February 2012 15:59 (five years ago) Permalink

Twenty posts of me complaining about a genre nobody on ILM cares about.

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 19 February 2012 16:01 (five years ago) Permalink

And "Mambo Number Cero" is just inexcusable.

_Rudipherous_, Sunday, 19 February 2012 16:04 (five years ago) Permalink

Twenty posts of me complaining about a genre nobody on ILM cares about.

― _Rudipherous_, Sunday, February 19, 2012 10:01 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark

fwiw, i loled

Laura Lucy Lynn (La Lechera), Sunday, 19 February 2012 16:11 (five years ago) Permalink


curmudgeon, Monday, 20 February 2012 08:09 (five years ago) Permalink

Could have been worse, whiney or deej could have taken an interest.

Can You Please POLL Out Your Window? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 20 February 2012 13:22 (five years ago) Permalink

Might be DJing next week in London - planning to go heavy on the reggaeton. Any great new electro-cumbia songs i should be thinking about playing as well?

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 14:13 (five years ago) Permalink

What reggaeton are you listening to these days?

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 15:00 (five years ago) Permalink

Poppier stuff, for the most part - RKM & Ken Y, Daddy Yankee, Xavi The Destroyer, De la Ghetto, Calle 13, Kendo Kaponi, Farruko, etc.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 15:27 (five years ago) Permalink

Sorry, I haven't heard anything along the lines of what you're looking for. I haven't figured out how to keep up with cumbia, or much of anything outside a narrow range of Latin music.

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 15:39 (five years ago) Permalink

i'd check out some of dj dus or disquedj for cumbia

fauxmarc, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:39 (five years ago) Permalink


Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 17:43 (five years ago) Permalink

Ng La Banda

Not to start trouble (and there's no right or wrong), but I listened to a few songs from them from a different recent album on Spotify this morning, and uh, I do not have the antipathy to their timba sound that Rudiph does. Is "Mis 22 anos" on Spotify? I did not see it but perhaps missed it. Or is it elsewhere?

curmudgeon, Friday, 24 February 2012 22:05 (five years ago) Permalink

It is elsewhere.

_Rudipherous_, Friday, 24 February 2012 23:27 (five years ago) Permalink

W. DC area loves Fruko's live tribute to Joe Arroyo:

curmudgeon, Monday, 27 February 2012 05:11 (five years ago) Permalink

Just meant to show one photo showing jam-packed crowd

curmudgeon, Monday, 27 February 2012 13:07 (five years ago) Permalink

Did anyone post this blog's cumbia post last year? If so, sorry

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 05:50 (five years ago) Permalink

message from Descarga:

Fania in Flux ...Again
Observant salsa collectors out there have probably noticed that the Fania reissue program at Codigo music has, pretty much, hit a brick wall. According to our calculations, except for compilations and a few packages (ie Asalto Navideño and Our Latin Thing), it has been seven or eight months since any official reissues have been released. To make matters worse, some of the Codigo reissues which have been released are already out-of-print and unavailable. The reason, we have learned, is that Codigo's distribution is changing hands. This means that until the new distributor (Red) begins to release product, the existing stock will start to quickly dry up and disappear. We could be wrong, but it sounds like the reissue program will be, once again, starting from scratch. Sound familiar? The same thing has occurred twice within recent memory. First, in 2005, when Emusica bought Fania from the Masucci family, and, second, when Codigo purchased the label from Emusica in 2009. At one time (pre-2005) the nearly 1500 title catalog was readily available on cd. Since then, only a few hundred titles have seen the light of day. Hard times for both retailers and collectors, indeed.
We will do our best to keep you posted as more details about the Fania reissue program unfold. In the meantime, you might consider stocking up on titles you are missing. They might disappear for a long time... - Descarga

curmudgeon, Monday, 5 March 2012 14:44 (five years ago) Permalink

Having money for CDs is mostly a thing of the past for me, at this point.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 5 March 2012 15:42 (five years ago) Permalink

"Don Omar and Pitbull, Bachata stars Prince Royce and Romeo Santos, the Mexican Rock band Mana, and Latin Pop superstar Shakira are this year's top nominees."

over these awards i've quit caring it's been repeating for like a decade now

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:36 (five years ago) Permalink

Should I care about these folks or Charlie Zaa?

Artist of the Year, New
- Calibre 50 (Disa)
- Il Volo (Opera Blues/Gatica/Rentor/Geffen/Universal Music Latino/UMLE)
- La Adictiva Banda San Jose de Mesillas (Sony Music Latin)
- Violento (Entourage/Disa/ASL)

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 16:52 (five years ago) Permalink

Charlie Zaa is Colombian and has put out some things that are okay, but just okay, at least from what I remember. I don't swear by any of that.

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 19:42 (five years ago) Permalink

Note to self--check out Puerto Rican artist Mima, who works with Rita Indiana on her latest

curmudgeon, Friday, 9 March 2012 16:03 (five years ago) Permalink

not latin but real good to further down see dj raff get a mention on npr! part of the forefront of chilean hip-hop i've been digging for a while now, not sure why puello is the only one that gets any respect

fauxmarc, Friday, 9 March 2012 16:50 (five years ago) Permalink

(not latin as in traditional afro-latin music)

fauxmarc, Friday, 9 March 2012 16:51 (five years ago) Permalink

I dont want to force feed anyone but each of the tracks on the NG La Banda is 6-7 mins long and they take you on a journey through Timba / Salsa / Cha Cha Cha / Songo / Charanga / Boogaloo and lots of other good stuff, you just have to get past the timba. And the timba is salsero friendly if you give it a chance.

This is probably the best sampler available;

Marcomarcos, Sunday, 11 March 2012 16:09 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm not a great fan of Bloque 53 but they did drop one very hot tune back in 2010. La Surursal SA, also out of Barcelona, are the ones, both their CD's are top drawer.

Marcomarcos, Sunday, 11 March 2012 16:16 (five years ago) Permalink

Interesting to see Frucko mentioned up there, he's been recording new stuff recently due for release later this year, aparently it's going to be a Banco Popular type thing for Fuentes.

Have you guys seen the Joe Arroyo TV soap series, it's really great

Marcomarcos, Sunday, 11 March 2012 16:21 (five years ago) Permalink

Saw it but haven't checked it out.

_Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 17:30 (five years ago) Permalink

haven't heard, but would listen to!!

passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 19:13 (five years ago) Permalink

Listen away...

Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 19:17 (five years ago) Permalink

Think I read that disc two is the cumbia one

Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 19:18 (five years ago) Permalink

I recognize a lot of the names on here -- I wish someone would just reissue whole albums by some of these people -- Wganda Kenya, por ejemplo -- I get tired of listening to other people's comps all the time! I don't have the time (or inclination really) to travel to places where I could find these original records, so won't someone bring them to me?

Also it has been ages since I heard the word Valledupar! I still predict that there is a vallenato revival on the horizon.

passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 19:44 (five years ago) Permalink

Actually, that's not true -- I would love to travel, I just wouldn't do it solely to find records that I'm sure I wouldn't find anyway.

passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 19:45 (five years ago) Permalink

I've been enjoying this over the last few days too

passion it person (La Lechera), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 19:49 (five years ago) Permalink

Saw them two months ago. Pretty fun.

TS: shambala vs. sha la la, man (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 20 December 2012 02:48 (five years ago) Permalink

Got that Diablos del Ritmo comp in the mail a while back, only listened to bits of Disc 1 so far but it's kinda fun.

誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 20 December 2012 03:10 (five years ago) Permalink

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