the crimes of george lucas ('90s on)

I saw both TPM and AOTC twice in theaters, in an attempt to convince myself and others that each was better than they actually were.

ROTS I didn't see until someone uploaded it to YouTube in 10 parts, which probably wasn't the way to watch that one.

have you guys seen this? it's not good, but might have some extra chuckles for you.

http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/review/fanboys/4000

I actually saw ROTS at the charity premiere in Washington, DC, my wife having surprised me with $250 per person tickets. I sat directly in front of Debbie Reynolds and Carrie Fisher.

xp "Not good" is very, very charitable for something that wastes the talents of everyone involved.

you are all the problem.

well Fanboys did have one great Harrison Ford joke

Have always been disappointed that the Phantom Menace contained no actual phantoms.

http://screamsheet.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/gerard-butler.jpg

http://dawnsdvds.com/h/phan.gif

Looks about as good as the Phantom Menace, for what it's worth. Ben Affleck as Obi-Wan, Peter O'Toole as Qui-Gon...

I do love the "top-billed, not on poster, lol old people" nature of the whole thing.

you are all the problem.

^^^

this "thank you sir may I have another" psychology is baffling.

I also saw TPM several times in the theater when it originally came out. I may have a problem....

― Moodles, Wednesday, February 8, 2012 7:48 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm there for you, Moodles. I saw it at midnight when it opened and several times after that.

― You got to ro-o-oll me and call me the tumblr whites (Phil D.), Wednesday, February 8, 2012 7:55 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I saw both TPM and AOTC twice in theaters, in an attempt to convince myself and others that each was better than they actually were.

― beachville, Wednesday, February 8, 2012 7:55 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Lets face it, the prequels gave all us SW nerds Stockholm syndrome

Says the guy named after Trade Viceroy Nute Gunray. Yes I do want to kill myself for knowing that.

Now, has everybody else here all seen the RLM takes on these flicks?

^^ urgent & key

ya, that's the last time i'm going to spend towards star wars again. those are great.

RLM?

rindustrial light and magic

http://www.freecoloring.info/img/scooby-doo-02.gif

These:

http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/star-wars/

They go into what made the prequels fail as movies, versus why the originals worked. I like these a lot b/c they serve both as film class lectures, you could say, and as autopsies. Thanks to these guys, nobody ever needs to think about the prequels ever again. The flicks are dead & buried now.

The vids deconstruct the movies from a character & narrative angle, and in reviewing the 3rd one, spend an extended amount showing exactly how Lucas is a horrible director who just stopped trying decades ago.

A sample taste:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI

Well worth your time, as is their weekly "Half in the Bag" review series.

They have been discussed at length in this thread.

I know. I'm asking again b/c the folks who participate in active convos in here change over time.

oh shit there's an indy 4 one? see you in an hour.

he also reviews 'cop dog' - wtf that is

the cop dog review is excellent imo

He actually doesn't totally hate Indy 4 iirc

idg the appeal of those RLM things. can people not work out for themselves why these movies are awful or something

seems like they act more as therapy for victims of Lucas' abuse than as anything particularly insightful

sigh

idg why people read or experience any kind of cultural commentary, ppl cant realize all this shit on their own or something

They are plenty insightful. One thing that always stuck with me is when he demonstrates how people in the prequels are always walking everywhere even when shit is going down because they were all filmed in little green boxes and they didn't have the space to actually run around. Like i had always known that the over-reliance on shitty CGI was one of the main reasons the prequels suck but that was as an aspect of it i'd never thought about

I don't need 10-minutes of pseudo-comical commentary to grasp that the characters in Phantom Menace are non-existent/underdeveloped. sorry. it's the level of insight here that I'm getting at, not the existence of commentary itself.

xp

You don't need to apologize for having different needs than we do, it's cool.

some ppl like to think about things in depth, its just like... a habit i guess

Shakey has never listened to a commentary track

lol @ 'level of insight' rhrn

the cop dog review is excellent imo

― polyphonic, Wednesday, February 8, 2012 6:34 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

seconded, might have to watch that again sometime

the scene where he destroys his tv with jizz whilst watching an olson twin movie is a++++

I dunno, it didn't add any insight

Cop Dog and Baby's Day Out are two vids they did just to break things up, I think, since they were in the middle of the year when all the prequels were done.

And I never really like calling them "reviews" b/c the things are far more akin to lectures or case studies; they're not just saying "these suck", they get into the minutia of why and how.

A fair amount of people complain about the voice they take("Mr Plinkett") to express their content, but I think it's like Film Crit Hulk, where you have a deliberately affected voice of a dumb person saying smart things.

film crit hulk owns

You don't need to apologize for having different needs than we do, it's cool.

What? This is not the Internet our forenerds fought for.

I'm actually thankful for the overbloated 3D movie ticket price because it's going to be SO much easier for me to say "$15 to see Jar Jar Binks, so effing way".

I was talking with a friend last night about these. He said he liked AOTC the best out of the prequels because of the Yoda fight, and I remembered at the time seeing the Yoda fight was the coolest thing ever. I know it "sullies the solemn nature of Yoda" or whatever and is an obvious videogame cash grab, but it was the only genuinely thrilling and surprising moment for me in the whole prequel series.

The prequels are all terrible but I actually liked a lot of the *imagery* in Attack of the Clones. I thought the stormy water planet with the clone factory looked neat, and I liked the quasi-Harryhausen monster arena toward the end.

And Christopher Lee is just always a badass.

sigh

Sorry s1ocki

Agreed about the imagery. The best format for the prequels would've been a large, wordless coffee table book of full-page photographic illustrations.

Attack of the Clones is my favorite of the prequels. In particular, I really enjoy the sequence of battle scenes starting with the gladiator scene through to the end of the movie. Each of those sequences has some really nice visual ideas going on.