so tell me, why is Kaputt better or worse than Let England Shake?

destroyer's kaputt....so damn good.

― omar little, Sunday, February 5, 2012 9:27 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i get where you're coming from but i dunno i dont listen kaputt or west coast and go "oh cool 80's sounds here" i just hear awesome fresh music

― ⚓ (gr8080)

― omar little, Sunday, February 5, 2012 4:12 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

kaputt is a wonderful album, one of the year's best

― omar little, Tuesday, February 7, 2012 11:59 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

kaputt is just....man. phenomenally good.

― omar little, Tuesday, February 7, 2012 1:37 PM (22 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

― ⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, February 7, 2012 11:39 PM (26 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

genuine pity in my heart for u guys

mixed with a tinge of contempt of course

wow the shoe is on the other foot for once

omar killing it ITT

what shoe! what foot! this thread is hilarious.

i still wanna know if tim f. digs any M83 stuff. he won't tell me. does a ronan dig any M83 stuff? who listens to it anyway?

my overall take on Kaputt was "music for people who like the idea of Pet Shop Boys but find them too aggressive"

― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, February 7, 2012 3:29 PM (44 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

cheap slam, but half fair. kaputt is p obviously a mood piece, album-oriented, not would-be chart pop in a PSB vein. aggression is hardly the point. and are we really reduced to ridiculing music for its perceived lack of aggression, like 80s alt people sneering at "safe" radio pop?

the sales staff at b&b italia, two hungarian office cleaners, the middle classes (xp)

I totally dig M83!

xp: contederizer dude, please keep up

for me dinner parties are almost always jazz then when everyone gets drunk it's house or disco.

x-post to scott, i only like those few older m83 remixes, where's that new yorker jpg when you need it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsC5Ecy5vio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR7gQV9vdTM

all the destroyer hate reminds me of the m people hatred. Destroyer = M People. Tasteful boring music that you could neither love or hate.

i just love kaputt because it takes a lot of elements of dance music and pop music like synths and "out there" production techniques but it does it with songs that are so much more *intelligent* and well-crafted than what you hear in the top 40

i hate m people

actually tho the main thing i'm realising here after putting on that m83 remix is that superpitcher is way better than any of this music.

this album is kinda like if you combined the best elements of the smiths with the best elements of katy b

so do i, ronan. But im just at the wind up now :)

It's possible to say that e.g. The XX is perfect and archetypal dinner party music for university educated indie listeners (and I know because I've been at these dinner parties) and still really like the music (in fact my fondest XX listening experience was at a beach bar in Nice where it was played on shuffle with Sade's Greatest Hits - what does that say?), and still really like dinner parties for that matter!

yeah sure, i agree with you there. i'm objecting in a general sense to the tiresome, self-aggrandizing disdain so often directed at "indie" on ILX, itt and elsewhere.

destroyer fucking wishes he could write a hook as strong as "moving on up" or "one night in heaven"

this album is kinda like if you combined the best elements of the smiths with the best elements of katy b

WHY would you feel the need to put anything to do with the smiths within a 10 mile radius of katy b, leave her alone ;_;

m people is to simply red as destroyer is to pj harvey

genuine pity in my heart for u guys

mixed with a tinge of contempt of course

like a Destroyer song

i just love kaputt because it takes a lot of elements of dance music and pop music like synths and "out there" production techniques but it does it with songs that are so much more *intelligent* and well-crafted than what you hear in the top 40

lol

the new m'shell ndegeocello album has some stuff that reminds me of kaputt, those are some of my favorite tracks on that album tbh, i wouldn't mind seeing a bejar/mshell collabo :)

The Destroyer album is like From The Choirgirl Hotel crossed with Aaliyah, only 10 times better than either.

The reason it's better is that it's not manufactured or kooky, it's really intelligent and thoughtful.

superpitcher, yeah. there's the dance thing again. its not even really a fair fight. any of those kompact dudes could make sweet 80's sounds and i wouldn't have to hear the destroyer dude singing and i would want to play it over and over again. so i guess that's really where i stand. there is just better/more enjoyable stuff out there. still would play an instrumental version of the destroyer album and probably dig it a bunch. might not play it over and over though.

Abigail's Party has a lot to answer for.

have you heard john maus, scott?

destroyer fucking wishes he could write a hook as strong as "moving on up"

― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend),

yeah Screamadelica is awesome!

hey, tim, what do you think of M83? (third time's a charm) okay, promise i won't ask again. he probably likes the early remixes too.

xp: contederizer dude, please keep up]

pfft. i'm dancing as fast as i can...

i can't believe primal scream covered m people :(

xxpost Sorry Scott missed your first reference to this.

I quite liked the album before the recent one. Haven't heard the recent one. Should I?

Of the earlier stuff I liked it but (predictably) preferred the remixes as well.

i can't believe primal scream covered m people :(

okay lol at this.

no, i don't think so. i get him confused with deadmaus. i'll look him up.

x-post

i just love kaputt because it takes a lot of elements of dance music and pop music like synths and "out there" production techniques but it does it with songs that are so much more *intelligent* and well-crafted than what you hear in the top 40

oh boy

lol

okay lol at this.

not sure what type of lol tho

at, not with

we are descending into a troll/counter-troll vortex and it is totally awesome

oh i just wondered, tim. i don't really listen to M83 much. just on youtube. i think some of it is interesting. and i like some of the old/new blends that the guy gets. i think he's often successful at it. but, like i said earlier, i think the french are really good at the 80's.

Most tedious thing said by worthless VHS idiot JOHN MAUS in p4k interview

i think the french are really good at the 80's.

sébastien tellier >>>>>>>>>>>>>> m83 who are pretty much just raw material for superpitcher to make great

i will say that i like this destroyer stuff more than any ariel pink i've heard. i've never heard any ariel pink that ever made me want to hear ariel pink again. some of it sounded really terrible to me. felt like the lex whenever he hears, uh, stuff the lex hates. the smiths or something.

oh god even i like destroyer more than ariel pink, at least it doesn't suffer from that "recorded in a drainpipe" thing

fucking wish i could shove ariel pink and his ilk inside a drainpipe

the smiths are even more repellent than all these people

dear god, i entirely missed that john maus interview/thread :/

ariel punkd

hey scott i know you didnt ask me but i like M83 less and less w/ every album but that said i still like them a lot!

I can't get past Gonzalez's voice.

oh i just wondered, tim. i don't really listen to M83 much. just on youtube. i think some of it is interesting. and i like some of the old/new blends that the guy gets. i think he's often successful at it. but, like i said earlier, i think the french are really good at the 80's.

That third album was very much "so much useless 80s ephemera" but in a very pure way that I thought I might grow to love if I put effort into it. I probably would have listened to it more but in honesty I find it hard to really devote myself to albums like that which I hear only after they're p4k-etc. feted, even if I like them; maybe it's some weird sense that these albums don't need my opinion </backdoor bragging>

I would like more stuff with that really gauzy atmosphere I suppose, like Bon Iver's "Beth/Rest" only not Bon Iver??? Also AMO1's "Freefall".

never really been able to get the hang of M-83. i liked a few songs off dead cities once upon a time, especially "run into flowers", but the album bored me, overall. subsequent flirtation with anthemic 80s pop left me cold, though the sounds were often beautiful.