Your 2012 Superbowl LXVI Thread

https://twitter.com/#!/MarkHerzlich/status/166902364652056576

wow, this is kind of crazy. Mark Herzlich obviously pissed about missing the super bowl, but he compares the giants' win to one of the greatest tragedies of recent years.

subway was completely packed with blue today on the PATH train

siap

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that rules

if only Gisele had stayed with Leo, she'd be complaining about Eastwood and Dustin Lance Black.

I was hoping for a Pats win, but as someone who's officially unaffiliated, that stupid touchdown almost makes up for another Manning ring.

MORE RINGS THAN DAN MARINO

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I still don't understand not wanting to score there. What if they fumble on the next play?

you can kneel down 3 times and then kick. no danger of fumble, just remote chance of flubbing the kick. remote unless you are the cowboys, of course.

just prevent NE from scoring, 'fraidy cats

they mostly managed to

everyone in new england seems to be in complete denial about the fact that this was a terrible loss (and yes i include myself)

terrible how?

they should have won? they were ahead with the ball and a chance to ice the game?

i mean, if the giants led the whole time and straight up outplayed them you could be like yeah not terrible the gmen were just better. but on the whole it was a pretty terrible loss and i think there's a lot of rationalizing going on up here.

pats had a small lead but it's not like they were dominating in any sense

no of course they weren't dominating.

so there's not really the 'tragic' aspect there. I mean I guess there is if you are a pats fan. but it's not like they blew a huge lead or lost to a worse team. they lost a close and fair game.

might seem more tragic in retrospect if it's brady's last super bowl tho

no not tragic but pretty bad and it seems like a lot of ppl here are surprisingly ok with it?

legacy implications may well be tragic, its true

What would have made me lol would have been if dude had stopped at the goal line and not kneeled, but just waited for a Patriot to actually tackle him. Since the D had been told "let him go in", how many seconds would go by before they realized "oh wait, he's not going in and time is still running off the clock"

might seem more tragic in retrospect if it's brady's last super bowl tho

― iatee, Tuesday, February 7, 2012 10:58 AM (41 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

eh, he's won three! things get a lot more tragic in the nfl.

I was hoping he'd stop and pats players would try and push him in the endzone, that woulda been beautiful

on the one hand i disagree with cad, because despite leading into the 4th, NE were the second best team and the turn was kind of inevitable. the giants played it perfectly - pats can't stop the short-mid passes and brady can't dump points on you if he only gets a handful of possessions and those from inside his 20. they put themselves in the best position to win. it's not like NE lost a 2 score lead or anything.

on the other hand, the loss is a piece of shrapnel moving towards my heart and rationalizing is like the complicated and unlikely iron armor keeping me alive, somehow, with magnets maybe.

there was a quote from the nyg running backs coach who said they'd practiced situations like that and he was supposed to basically wait it out and force the other team to knock him in so it would have been an amazing stand off if that couldve materialized

on the one hand i disagree with cad, because despite leading into the 4th, NE were the second best team and the turn was kind of inevitable. the giants played it perfectly - pats can't stop the short-mid passes and brady can't dump points on you if he only gets a handful of possessions and those from inside his 20. they put themselves in the best position to win. it's not like NE lost a 2 score lead or anything.

i would totally agree with this except for the possession with the welker drop and branch miss. that was the chance to survive in spite of all the above.

yeah brady and the offense are getting some stick for not performing but they did okay in the circumstances. a TD drive in the 4th would obv have been the difference between okay and championship great. would championship years brady have completed one of those drives? maybe. altho his specialty was getting in FG range of course.

brady was performing well during those drives, mostly

I'm still secretly convinced that they'd have scored w/ 2 minutes and 2 timeouts so it's bb's fault

patritos lb was just about to knock bradshaw into the end zone before he fell in

btw, i read somewhere that conceding 5y for having extra defenders on the field to burn some time off the clock is a legit cheaty strategy devised by buddy ryan. i wonder if coughlin really did that on purpose. i didn't realize the clock wouldn't be reset on that play. i was furious.

yeah you should be able to reset the clock if the penalty's against the other team

tho apparently they didn't do it on purpose?

doing it like 5 times in a row would be such an awesomely dickish way to win the super bowl

if the penalty is before or at the snap it should be a no-brainer. crazy rule.

patritos fans should be fine w/ legit cheaty strategies

there must be some kind of unsporting conduct penalty that the officials can impose to avoid a situation like that.

i am referring to iatee's idea obv

cf dudes playing madden online who are losing and run offside on the last play over and over so the game doesn't end

Putting more than 13 men on the field would probably qualify as a "palpably unfair" act, which the refs have significant latitude to punish. The lesson here, as always, is to have plausible deniability.

that's very interesting

that's from the end of the grantland story, which discusses the origins of the strategy as well: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7545771/the-patriots-giants-super-bowl-rematch-disappoint

also a lot of things that are 'palpably unfair' are just things that haven't been accepted as 'acceptable strategies' (like icing the kicker, etc.) bradshaw stopping at the 1 yd line could also be palpably unfair.

xp oh aye, that is where i read about it. did not see the footnote tho. fuck you grantland footnotes.

fuck you grantland footnotes.

if i was a pats fan i'd be pretty broken up about this cuz really that brady to welker play should be all but automatic...

otoh, not to get all bill barnwell in this bitch, BUT the giants did recover three fumbles that legit bounced on the ground for like 2 seconds at a time... and that can't really be blamed on the pats

but yeah, brady should've closed it out

the welker miss, the branch miss (altho i thought kenny phillips tipped this?) and the awful hail mary were pretty big flubs

it's not like the Giants lucked into a win, you guys

when opportunity presented itself, the Giants executed more often than New England, ergo they won the game

they didn't really play better or worse than the pats overall and teh score was close enough that you can argue that they 'lucked into a win'. footballs bounce pretty unpredictably, one small thing here or there woulda turned the score around.

teh score

that doesn't mean they didn't 'deserve' the win, they played well against a good team. sorta like the niners game. but yeah, luck generally does play a huge role in close games. sorta ruins the narrative to accept that, but I think it's hard to argue w/.