Indefinite Detention? But I Have Soccer Practice at 4: U.S. Politics 2012

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If this glowing piece from Sunday's Washington Post Business section is credible, Gene Sperling is the White House's liberal economic guy--trying to push Geithner slightly leftward and advocating to Obama for job-creation ideas

When Obama tapped him as Treasury secretary, Geithner asked Sperling to join as a no-title adviser. “The great thing about him was he was willing to come help do anything,” Geithner said. Sperling asked to be Treasury’s top adviser on fiscal policy. But he also encouraged Geithner — who was focused on stabilizing the financial system and faced critics who accused him of being too sympathetic to Wall Street — to pay more attention to populist ideas such as curbing executive pay.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/gene-b-sperling-obamas-jobs-creator/2012/01/17/gIQAJ8KXqQ_story.html

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 14:33 (twelve years ago) link

so glad Congress is authorizing drones to be flown in the US ugh way to go you stupid assholes

max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 16:22 (twelve years ago) link

gotta get em ready for use on the Occupy Conventions

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 16:36 (twelve years ago) link

would it be hilar if people figured out how to shoot them down?

Waxahachie Swap (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 16:37 (twelve years ago) link

^ srs question

Waxahachie Swap (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 16:37 (twelve years ago) link

or would it be like for sumter

Waxahachie Swap (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 16:37 (twelve years ago) link

The FAA is also required under the bill to provide military, commercial and privately-owned drones with expanded access to U.S. airspace currently reserved for manned aircraft by Sept. 30, 2015. That means permitting unmanned drones controlled by remote operators on the ground to fly in the same airspace as airliners, cargo planes, business jets and private aircraft.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/breaking/chi-congress-oks-faa-bill-allowing-drones-in-us-gps-air-traffic-control-20120207,0,3563340.story

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

I want my own drone

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link

PRIVATELY-OWNED DRONES

argh

max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link

Lots of issues involved in this bill

The labor provision, which was opposed by the Democratic-controlled Senate, became the principal issue holding up the bill. A compromise reached two weeks ago by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., and House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, allows the mediation board's rules to stand, but it also toughens some lesser requirements that must be met in order to hold a union organizing election.

While the compromise was acceptable to some unions, more than a dozen other unions that represent airline industry workers — including the Teamsters, Communications Workers, Machinists and Flight Attendants — complained the deal was reached without their input and urged its rejection.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 16:48 (twelve years ago) link

PRIVATELY-OWNED DRONES

argh

Well you can presently fly remote-controlled model airplanes, this just becomes an issue of air traffic.

Also, prownes?

le ralliement du doute et de l'erreur (Michael White), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link

PRIVATELY-OWNED DRONES

superfluous hyphen

mookieproof, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link

unmanned cargo aircraft isn't such a bad idea

Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link

unmanned cargo aircraft isn't such a bad idea

Apparently 'they' have been saying that for ages. The pilots of commercial carriers are basically just hostages.

le ralliement du doute et de l'erreur (Michael White), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link

I totally want a drone. I could put a slim jim and some little debbies in it and fly it to DJP in Boston and be all here are your intergalactic snacks in a robot voice.

Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 17:09 (twelve years ago) link

good morning!

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 17:12 (twelve years ago) link

if drones are allowed over the US, just a matter of time before one is hacked by anonymous and crashes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 17:57 (twelve years ago) link

preferably when [redacted]

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 17:59 (twelve years ago) link

DIY drones

Z S, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 18:27 (twelve years ago) link

I don't have a problem with private drones anymore than I do with private aircraft

govt drones are more sinister if you ask me.

i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 18:42 (twelve years ago) link

the pilot of a private aircraft is much more likely to be responsible about its use if he or she is inside it imo

mookieproof, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 18:44 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, that's why I referred to them as hostages

le ralliement du doute et de l'erreur (Michael White), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 18:47 (twelve years ago) link

eh bring on the robots

Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 18:50 (twelve years ago) link

given that it'll likely be very easy to make a DIY drone in yr garage v soon, I'd rather they be allowed and regulated (as air traffic is today) and made useful, and not outlawed. Or worse, allowed to be used by only rhe govt and a v narrow slice of the private sector. I really don't understand how drones would be bad aside from cluttering the airways

i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 18:54 (twelve years ago) link

some dubious syntax there but I think u get me

i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 18:55 (twelve years ago) link

that Monsanto dude appt. is a fucking embarrassment btw not like there's anything anybody can do about it but seriously

unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 18:57 (twelve years ago) link

I have problems with, say, Donald Trump owning a drone.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 18:57 (twelve years ago) link

private security drone armies

max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link

I would prob start watching the apprentice tbh

iatee, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link

why? srs q. Xp

i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link

private security drone armies

I would assume that ARMED drones would be illegal

bear in mind my def of "drone" is "robot that flys"

i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 18:59 (twelve years ago) link

what if drones started falling from the sky

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY (dayo), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:00 (twelve years ago) link

oh no

i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:01 (twelve years ago) link

don't really want to find out what, say, the Oakland Police Department would do with armed drones fwiw

max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:02 (twelve years ago) link

basically this comes down to me having real, serious problems with the militarization of law enforcement in this country - police departments are armed and trained as if they are serving in warzones, it's fucked up.

max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:04 (twelve years ago) link

this drone thing reminds me of recent things like this and this

max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:05 (twelve years ago) link

Oh, it's worse than you think, Shakey: Now college campus police departments are getting SWAT teams. A solution in search of a problem.

http://nineronline.com/2011/unc-charlotte-swat-team-%E2%80%93-an-asset-we-hope-to-never-use/

You got to ro-o-oll me and call me the tumblr whites (Phil D.), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:07 (twelve years ago) link

I would totally build a drone that throws rocks at the police drones.

Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:08 (twelve years ago) link

basically this comes down to me having real, serious problems with the militarization of law enforcement in this country - police departments are armed and trained as if they are serving in warzones, it's fucked up.

dude I feel u 1000% which is why govt drone usage is creepier than Donald trump

i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:09 (twelve years ago) link

I would assume that ARMED drones would be illegal

I guess I'm not making this assumption. private security firms carry weapons.

max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:12 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, but private security firms don't have gunships.

Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:14 (twelve years ago) link

or at least those that operate domestically.

i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:15 (twelve years ago) link

I should change that to private security firms operating within the borders of the USA. Because, you know, xe or whatever they are now.

Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:15 (twelve years ago) link

oops. yup.

Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:16 (twelve years ago) link

I assumed for this whole discussion "drone" meant a plane w/ missiles on it. Why else would you have one?

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:19 (twelve years ago) link

snacks

Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:20 (twelve years ago) link

Why else would you have one?

surveillance. helping nancy grace catch child murderers? I dunno.

max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:28 (twelve years ago) link

Nancy Grace's drones would zip around the country, slut-shaming left and right

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 19:30 (twelve years ago) link


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