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there's some new weekly that just started in Mpls called "Vita.mn"
it's wierd, i think it must be run by the star tribune or something.

i just started seeing it a few weeks ago, but this week i saw issues of it EVERYWHERE. i guess they think the city pages is vulnerable or something..

M@tt He1g3s0n: oh u mad cuz im stylin on u (Matt Helgeson), Saturday, 27 January 2007 23:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Oy:

Yeah, it's supposed to sound that way. "Some Loud Thunder," the title track off CYHSY's sophomore release, is a fun, crisp pop song—all hand claps and cowbells and jangly guitar—fed through a haze of radio static, like it's crackling between AM channels on a long drive through the desert. A nostalgic gesture, I guess. But it's also hard not to be skeptical. This is a band that emerged in 2005 as though genetically engineered in some East Village basement to generate blogger appeal. Their first, self-titled disc was packed with all the hippest rock references—Talking Heads, Neutral Milk Hotel, etc.-—but instead of being angular and crisp, those influences sounded as if they'd been left out in to the sun too long and melted into something warped and druggy.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Sunday, 28 January 2007 15:15 (seventeen years ago) link

ANGULAR ANGULAR ANGULAR

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 28 January 2007 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.drudgereport.com/siren.gif

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Sunday, 28 January 2007 15:41 (seventeen years ago) link

"something warped and druggy" = "I worked so hard to avoid using the 'like [BLANK] on drugs' cliché."

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 28 January 2007 15:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, plus how is Neutral Milk Hotel "crisp" and not "warped and druggy" to begin with?

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Sunday, 28 January 2007 15:43 (seventeen years ago) link

BTW, does "CYHSY" stand for Crosby, Young, Hillman, Stills & Young?

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 28 January 2007 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Also

-"Crisp" twice in one short paragraph
-"All the hippest musical references--Talking Heads, Neutral Milk Hotel"
-"Whoa, this sounds weird!" beginning

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Sunday, 28 January 2007 15:46 (seventeen years ago) link

-everything else about the paragraph

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Sunday, 28 January 2007 15:46 (seventeen years ago) link

-everything else about the rest of the article:

Frontman Alec Ounsworth sang like David Byrne and looked like a waiter at a vegan restaurant; like true hipsters, his band was accelerated and responsive, a psychedelic amoeba consuming rock idioms and excreting catchy little bits of digested zeitgeist. Take Thunder's dance-punk confection "Satan Said Dance," which wraps its pumping beat and twitchy chants in a swarm of electronic squiggles, belches, and bleeps, a rapturous sound that nonetheless sounds absolutely redolent of the Rapture. On top of all this, they had a silly name, and enough "DIY integrity" to flatten a polar bear. If they didn't happen to be so good, CYHSY would've been a pretty ingenious bit of meta-parody. As it stood, they were that rare rock item: a postmodern band that seemed to be genuinely, excitingly weird.

Sadly, knob-twiddling wooze-hound Dave Fridmann makes them sound very aware of all this on Thunder—the producer's atmospheric flourishes have always been heavy handed, but here they muddle tightly conceived pop tunes that would've sounded better scrappy. Too often, there's simply not enough of the band in the mix. What the record does have, though, is a collection of truly great melodies, and when the music focuses directly on them—meditating on simple chords—that new sense of sound and space offers moments of pure euphoria. "Emily Jean Stock" finds Ounsworth's strangled yelp riding the crest of a gorgeous Technicolor harmony, and the sub-aquatic "Five Easy Pieces," ripe for a Cameron Crowe love scene, is an equally beautiful bit of cycling mist. Time for a new producer. Two words: Danger Mouse.
send a letter to the editor

Wow

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Sunday, 28 January 2007 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I just found an article by Bret Gladstone on jambands.com, 'bout Phish. I don't want to laugh and say HA HA HE LIKES PHISH, but in retrospect his non-avoidance of certain clichés does make him sound like an interloper in an alternarama rockcrit world he doesn't passably understand.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 28 January 2007 16:04 (seventeen years ago) link

The sad thing is that xhucx probably would have slashed it to pieces AND given the guy a chance to do better.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Sunday, 28 January 2007 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link

like true hipsters, his band was accelerated and responsive, a psychedelic amoeba consuming rock idioms and excreting catchy little bits of digested zeitgeist

so, "a psychedelic amoeba consuming rock idioms and excreting catchy little bits of digested zeitgeist" is characteristic of any "true hipster"?

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 28 January 2007 17:12 (seventeen years ago) link

How much "DIY integrity" does it take to flatten a polar bear?

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Sunday, 28 January 2007 17:17 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.mytaxidermy.com/jpgs/gallery/rugs/polar01.jpg
PWNED BY CYHSY

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Sunday, 28 January 2007 17:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Jim Walsh out
http://www.mnspeak.com/mnspeak/archive/post-2775.cfm

Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:17 (seventeen years ago) link

ITS A BLOODBATH

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:21 (seventeen years ago) link

You guys realize this is the second thread of the day that's tearing apart Bret Gladstone's writing? Also see: Worst Music Writing 2007

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:34 (seventeen years ago) link

(For two separate articles, it should be noted.)

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:36 (seventeen years ago) link

"Two words: Danger Mouse" is so awful, it sounds like a parody.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I know!

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

that rare rock item: a postmodern band that seemed to be genuinely, excitingly weird.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Chris zeigler resigned at OC weekly. This is getting stupid. Must all the talent be purged from New Times' VV papers?

under a rock (Uncle Tom), Friday, 2 February 2007 05:44 (seventeen years ago) link

"FLATTEN A POLAR BEAR"?!?!?

sleeve (sleeve), Friday, 2 February 2007 06:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Ziegler was not "purged" -- he quit. Sometimes people do move on, you know.

novamax (novamax), Friday, 2 February 2007 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link

The phrase 'jumped before pushed' comes to mind. (See also Rebecca Schoenkopf.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 February 2007 16:35 (seventeen years ago) link

"Lying in a pool of herself with a broken neck."

It's a great song ... maybe doesn;t apply here, but hey, it's a nice plug for Linda Thompson anyway. :-)

O'Connor (OConnorScribe), Friday, 2 February 2007 17:03 (seventeen years ago) link

(See also Rebecca Schoenkopf.)

indeed.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 2 February 2007 17:40 (seventeen years ago) link

come on nova,
like it had nothing to do with his editor getting canned? how many other OC writers are just "moving on" ?


under a rock (Uncle Tom), Friday, 2 February 2007 17:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Not sure that's fair. I mean, it probably is related to the change in ownership and all the other NT lamentations evident here, but gossipy speculation is a bit dangerous (unless Chris blogs about it or a report hits the newswires).

Besides, methinks Mr. Lomax's entry into this discussion is fairly credible. :-)

O'Connor (OConnorScribe), Friday, 2 February 2007 18:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not very surprised that youthinks that. :-]

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 2 February 2007 18:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow, now I'm an NT apologist? How'd that happen? :-)

O'Connor (OConnorScribe), Friday, 2 February 2007 18:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, I usually love the parody cover stories NT does. It'd be nice, though, if this one turns out to be a fake.
-- O'Connor (oconnorscrib...), February 1st, 2007.

BTW, I'm of the opinion the essay is real. It's totally consistent with a longtime NT tradition of responding in print to opponents amd detractors -- most of which are breathtaking and wonderful (Mike Lacey's volleys against Bruce Brugman are awesome). This one, however, is neither.

And other stuff which i'm not going to look up now. I know they let you go and you always talk very interestingly about how shitty they are in some ways, but you also seem to still kind of love them and defend them. That said, I don't want to cast aspersions on you, you seem okay to me! Forget I said anything.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 2 February 2007 19:01 (seventeen years ago) link

That's fair, Haikunym. There's just a divide for me between the product and the company itself, that's all.

O'Connor (OConnorScribe), Friday, 2 February 2007 19:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm actually excited that Ask a Mexican is starting to get syndication play ... that's a great column. One good result of NT-VV.

-- O'Connor (oconnorscrib...), July 25th, 2006.

keep in mind that NT music editors' weekly columns are mandated, on top of the other 250 taxing things they're charged with. So consequently, you're exceptionally lucky if 3.5 out of 10 of them don't suck -- kinda like batting in baseball. In that respect, Rob is Ichiro among the NT music columnists. :-)

-- O'Connor (oconnorscrib...), July 26th, 2006.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 2 February 2007 19:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Fine, bring up all the anecdotes you want. :-)

O'Connor (OConnorScribe), Friday, 2 February 2007 19:14 (seventeen years ago) link

hey don't bag on "Ask a Mexican," Gustavo A. is my HOMEBOY!

OH CRAP NOW I'M DOING IT

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 2 February 2007 19:16 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
The Other Village Voice

Rockist Scientist, Sunday, 4 March 2007 17:08 (seventeen years ago) link

did they fire their editor-in-chief of six months too?

Matos W.K., Monday, 5 March 2007 08:08 (seventeen years ago) link

i linked alt-weekly deathwatch from my blog, and now i have a new reader from phoenix checking in every day! i've already wished said IP address holder a hearty hullo dere!

having worked for a company big on micromanagement and short on foresight, i can say with certainty that technorati searches for links to altweeklydeathwatch.blogspot.com likely constitute a waste of precious new times resources, but i appreciate your continued readership.

fukasaku tollbooth, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:18 (seventeen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
can this just be renamed VVM mergers and acquisitions thread? can't wait to see what they do with philly weekly!

fukasaku tollbooth, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 23:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Philly would be interesting choice for them ... they don't often buy into situations quite that competitive. And I'm not sure that even THEY could fuck up music coverage/criticism in Philly. But surely they'll try. :-)

Jiminy Krokus, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 13:08 (seventeen years ago) link

And I'm not sure that even THEY could fuck up music coverage/criticism in Philly.

Like there's anything to fuck up. What could they really do to the Philadelphia Weekly to make it less worth reading (in general, not just in its music coverage)?

Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 13:13 (seventeen years ago) link

What could they really do to the Philadelphia Weekly to make it less worth reading (in general, not just in its music coverage)?

this of course is why i will be reading voraciously. first question: will they let liz spikol keep vlogging????

maura, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 13:37 (seventeen years ago) link

After looking at the alt-weekly deathwatch thing and gawker for the first time in awhile I see that Joy Press left the Village Voice for Salon, and that the Voice briefly resumed having sports coverage, but now the woman covering sports is gone (and it took folks posting comments to alert Gawker that the Voice used to have great sports coverage)

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 14:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Curmudgeon, re: the VV sports coverage, are you talking about the lady that took it to the out-of-control NY Giants for daring to have an x-ray machine in their locker room?

David R., Wednesday, 4 April 2007 14:37 (seventeen years ago) link

first question: will they let liz spikol keep vlogging????


i'd somehow forgotten about this!

fukasaku tollbooth, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 17:36 (seventeen years ago) link

apparently this isn't happening: http://willdo.philadelphiaweekly.com/archives/2007/04/daniel_mcquade_2.html

Matos W.K., Thursday, 5 April 2007 00:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Curmudgeon, re: the VV sports coverage, are you talking about the lady that took it to the out-of-control NY Giants for daring to have an x-ray machine in their locker room?

-- David R., Wednesday, April 4, 2007 10:37 AM (Yesterday)

I guess that's her. I never read her column, just the old old Village Voice Sports page.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 5 April 2007 16:29 (seventeen years ago) link

A non-New Times publication, the Washington City Paper, has a new look--smaller, now stapled, more color, "ask Bob Mould" column

curmudgeon, Friday, 6 April 2007 13:23 (seventeen years ago) link


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