do they drink shakes in england?
― buzza, Sunday, 5 February 2012 03:25 (twelve years ago) link
Shittest thing about both these bands part 1: Neither of them are bands.
― Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Sunday, 5 February 2012 03:25 (twelve years ago) link
Shittest thing about these bands pt.2: Destroyer are not the greatest living thrash metal band that ever walked
― Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Sunday, 5 February 2012 03:26 (twelve years ago) link
Shittest thing about these bands pt.3: PJ Harvey has never been remixed by DJ Harvey, AFAIK
― Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Sunday, 5 February 2012 03:27 (twelve years ago) link
Have they released that app that stops you going on the Internet when you're drunk yet?
― Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Sunday, 5 February 2012 03:36 (twelve years ago) link
i've listened to kaputt a few times now and it's an incredibly cold record imo
this is its magic and beauty
― plax (ico), Sunday, 5 February 2012 07:03 (twelve years ago) link
For me Kaputt is the musical descendant of albums like Steely Dan's Gaucho, Boz Scaggs' Silk Degrees, and Leonard Cohen's I'm Your Man, but filtered through a modern sensibility where sounds of the 70s and 80s are used for textural or atmospheric purposes rather than as basic songwriting tools.
― Moodles, Sunday, 5 February 2012 09:18 (twelve years ago) link
Obviously this is a drunken thread so this seems extraneous, but Kaputt is very clearly very American and Let England Shake is very clear very English. I like both, a lot, but I prefer PJ's.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 5 February 2012 10:05 (twelve years ago) link
but destroyer isn't american...
this entire episode definitely made the US posters seem more parochial than the UK ones, which i hadn't thought was the case before
― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Sunday, 5 February 2012 10:38 (twelve years ago) link
Ah, I'd forgotten I started this thread.
Parochial? Not really feeling the Destroyer album, but are you seriously suggesting some underhand conspiracy on the part of western-atlantic voters?
― Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Sunday, 5 February 2012 10:52 (twelve years ago) link
that's not what "parochial" means
― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Sunday, 5 February 2012 10:59 (twelve years ago) link
Okay, what do you mean?
― Sounds Of The Baskervilles (dog latin), Sunday, 5 February 2012 11:01 (twelve years ago) link
well we have better taste, for starters.
― ⚓ (gr8080), Sunday, 5 February 2012 11:20 (twelve years ago) link
It's better because ILX says so. It's official. It's definitely better.
― Jamie_ATP, Sunday, 5 February 2012 11:53 (twelve years ago) link
Kaputt that is. Obviously.
that bonus track on the vinyl which is now also on the cd, "the laziest river" reminds me a little of talk talk around "spirit of eden". there is a lot happening rhythmically and harmonically in that 20 minute song and the best is most of the time bejar does not open his mouth!
― alex in mainhattan, Sunday, 5 February 2012 12:34 (twelve years ago) link
having now re-listened to Kaputt I will strongly endorse that last point (not re that specific track, it isn't on the CD I have) - if dude really wanted to salute his 80s MOR godheads he should in all seriousness have got someone else to sing
most of it's just not the sort of thing I'm likely to ever busy myself w/ but there are some nice 'Balearic' (I know I know) instrumental parts here and there
for some reason on 'Bay of Pigs' I had the idea of giving it to Underworld circa 'Second Toughest...' and just getting them to use it as a basis for one of their own songs (rather than a cover per se)
― bs and 'Why Do You Listen To Frog?' (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 5 February 2012 13:04 (twelve years ago) link
lol, if anything, "this entire episode" suggests that certain PJH fans are rather narrow-minded
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Sunday, 5 February 2012 13:33 (twelve years ago) link
See u in March, ILX!
― flog this poster for moderation (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 5 February 2012 14:15 (twelve years ago) link
I can't believe anyone would be so narrow-minded as to dislike these poor underappreciated albums. They should really consider open their minds to new strains of indie.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 5 February 2012 14:20 (twelve years ago) link
well, narrow-minded as in "unable to tolerate differences of opinion". i could hardly care less who likes or doesn't like either album.
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Sunday, 5 February 2012 15:27 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St8uz4ioha0
― scott seward, Sunday, 5 February 2012 15:46 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwE8dlRnsio
― scott seward, Sunday, 5 February 2012 15:48 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQwSRlta020
― scott seward, Sunday, 5 February 2012 15:50 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTW3-1f3krs
― scott seward, Sunday, 5 February 2012 15:52 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ejRtQJdRWY
― scott seward, Sunday, 5 February 2012 15:53 (twelve years ago) link
scott, u are one of my alltime fave ilx posters, just btw
― Mordy, Sunday, 5 February 2012 15:54 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W3gmC52dPM
― scott seward, Sunday, 5 February 2012 15:56 (twelve years ago) link
thanks!
that ton steine sherben clip is great, by the way. they had a very hip look.
― scott seward, Sunday, 5 February 2012 15:58 (twelve years ago) link
love the klaus & klaus act.
― Mordy, Sunday, 5 February 2012 15:59 (twelve years ago) link
You don't think Gaucho is written with atmosphere in mind????
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Sunday, 5 February 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link
i really hate the part of ilx where people try to kill threads by flooding with youtubes or jpegs. Its childish, just like the reactions on the poll thread.
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:02 (twelve years ago) link
I do, but with Steely Dan, the songwriting and musicianship come first and then sounds and textures. On Kaputt, the texture is the primary concern.
― Moodles, Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:04 (twelve years ago) link
the form of one generation of artists becomes the content of the next
― Iago Galdston, Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:32 (twelve years ago) link
kabutt vs let england shit
― Lamp, Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:39 (twelve years ago) link
Mass turdmantic vs 4 poop demos
― dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:16 (twelve years ago) link
this is otm. Steely Dan just pays a lot of attention to every detail - lyrics, music, harmony, texture, sequence, it all gets the fine-toothed comb. Kaputt seems to have begin with a structure & feel idea and put all else afterward.
― unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:27 (twelve years ago) link
boy, we've got a real algonquin round table around here
― Iago Galdston, Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:27 (twelve years ago) link
also in a rare moment of agreement between me and the Algerian Goalkeeper, I like Scott a lot but posting a bunch of youtubes that share the word "kaputt" is nagl imo
― unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:28 (twelve years ago) link
it's a good luck imo
― flopson, Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:32 (twelve years ago) link
metal poll
― buzza, Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:34 (twelve years ago) link
i really hate the part of ilx where people try to kill quality threads by flooding with youtubes or jpegs oh wait
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:35 (twelve years ago) link
I like kaputt but lex is right, awarding the best album award to pj harvey would have been a chance to deliver a slap in the face to canonical indie rock
― dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:37 (twelve years ago) link
yes the indie rock domination of the ilm polls has gone on FAR too long
― tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:38 (twelve years ago) link
the arguing about popular indie rock albums domination of ilm however
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:40 (twelve years ago) link
a million lols
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:57 (twelve years ago) link
^^^
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:02 (twelve years ago) link
Beyonce is #1 in our hearts.
― lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:09 (twelve years ago) link
in my defense, i've been on ilx for ten years and i've had to put up with all kinds of crazy shit from you crazy old ladies. so bite me.
and, to be honest, i only went on youtube to look up kaputt cuz i didn't know what it was. see, i was trying to LEARN. but then i got sidetracked by german kaputt-mania. i'll go back and check out destroyer songs. just to see what the hubbub is about.
― scott seward, Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:22 (twelve years ago) link
destroyer's kaputt....so damn good.
― omar little, Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:27 (twelve years ago) link
well, i think that canon has only ever really mattered to the sort of people who attach a lot of significance to the idea that certain types of music more "important" than others, and/or those who wish to have "good taste". people like that tend to look to voices of authority for guidance, sometimes even aspiring to join the ranks of the tastemaking arbiters.
music fans who aren't concerned with those things will probably have little interest in canonical importance or quality.
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Friday, 10 February 2012 00:20 (twelve years ago) link
i kind of disagree, i think lots of people are or have been concerned with those things! people want to have 'good taste'
― D-40, Friday, 10 February 2012 00:23 (twelve years ago) link
or see themselves as discerning
yeah, i know. i was breaking it down to canon people vs "don't give a shit about a canon" people. not saying that either group is more numerous, and lots of folks are obviously somewhere in the middle.
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Friday, 10 February 2012 00:26 (twelve years ago) link
probably most people in the middle, tbh
deej p much 100% otm so far
i listened to the pj harvey album and realised its that thing i always make my housemate turn off in the kitchen when we are cooking. he doesn't really like kaputt either.
― judith, Friday, 10 February 2012 02:13 (twelve years ago) link
ah c'cmon, he's just swiping at tangents. grumble, kvetch...
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Friday, 10 February 2012 08:31 (twelve years ago) link
man i still can't really get down with bejar's vocals, and there are large portions of kaputt that are a yawner for me and that i have problems with,
but that "sounds, smash hits..." couplet is just all-time. doesn't really scan but perfect. how did he do that?
― dell (del), Sunday, 12 February 2012 07:44 (twelve years ago) link
he read a magizine, iirc
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Sunday, 12 February 2012 07:47 (twelve years ago) link
Played Kaputt in the car today, every song is a jam.
― Tim F, Sunday, 12 February 2012 11:08 (twelve years ago) link
http://sickmouthy.com/2012/02/14/lets-talk-about-destroyer/
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 20:39 (twelve years ago) link
this thread inspired me to go back to all of PJ Harvey's albums on Spotify
she fucking owns
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 20:42 (twelve years ago) link
great post, mouthy.
― ⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 20:50 (twelve years ago) link
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, February 5, 2012 5:05 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Sunday, February 5, 2012 5:38 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yes in a lot of ways kaputt feels very... canadian to me. don't ask me to explain how or why though. peace
― the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 21:00 (twelve years ago) link
Nick that's a wonderful post
― Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 21:12 (twelve years ago) link
Thanks dude.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 07:56 (twelve years ago) link
Dudes.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 07:57 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, just read the blog - nice one sicko, enjoyed it
― The Invisible Superstars (dog latin), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 08:40 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, same here. loved reading that (though i'm still in camp shake).
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 08:55 (twelve years ago) link
what's that a link to
― desperado, rough rider (thomp), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 10:03 (twelve years ago) link
hm.
― desperado, rough rider (thomp), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 10:04 (twelve years ago) link
can i just take a moment to laugh at whoever compared pj harvey to ts eliot
― desperado, rough rider (thomp), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 10:34 (twelve years ago) link
hey they both have initials
― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 10:36 (twelve years ago) link
So does JFK.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 10:41 (twelve years ago) link
I'd been wondering why I'd suddenly got lots of people following me on Twitter.
― The Invisible Superstars (dog latin), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 11:01 (twelve years ago) link
good thread.
a favorite post:
there's an album called hats?!?!fuck all of you who like it― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, February 8, 2012 6:13 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
fuck all of you who like it
― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Wednesday, February 8, 2012 6:13 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― lute bro (brimstead), Thursday, 2 June 2016 23:30 (seven years ago) link
i just went through this whole thread again. forgot all about it. tim going full nabisco. lex bringing the hilarity. good one.
― scott seward, Friday, 3 June 2016 00:56 (seven years ago) link
I'm always about the judith posts in this thread
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 3 June 2016 03:26 (seven years ago) link
you are a judith fanboy. who was judith?
― scott seward, Friday, 3 June 2016 03:49 (seven years ago) link
oh at some point in the past year i finally listened to the blue nile (indeed, hats) and thought it was really bad
― the hallouminati (lex pretend), Friday, 3 June 2016 07:35 (seven years ago) link
just another 2 billion verdicts to go and then we can all kill ourselves safe in the knowledge that culture has been logged
― japanese mage (LocalGarda), Friday, 3 June 2016 07:45 (seven years ago) link
yes why even have opinions
― the hallouminati (lex pretend), Friday, 3 June 2016 08:02 (seven years ago) link
― the hallouminati (lex pretend),
I wasn't too fond of it either after my bff Brad recommended it.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 June 2016 10:47 (seven years ago) link
Hats is cool you guys drool. First album is my fave though.
― scott seward, Friday, 3 June 2016 11:46 (seven years ago) link
i listened to a few tracks off of Kaputt in honor of this thread last night and, yeah, still no....
he should have asked Superpitcher to produce it. maybe then it would have worked a little better.
― scott seward, Friday, 3 June 2016 11:49 (seven years ago) link
is disco in the sky the last thing that superpitcher did? he needs to put out an album and save the world.
― scott seward, Friday, 3 June 2016 11:52 (seven years ago) link
i am legit shocked that alfred doesn't care for hats
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 3 June 2016 12:38 (seven years ago) link
all this talking is only bravado
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 3 June 2016 12:40 (seven years ago) link
gonna relisten now, Brad, because I gotta write a film review.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 June 2016 13:03 (seven years ago) link
there's a double vinyl superpitcher comp that came out last month, looks like it collects a bunch of his singles.
https://www.discogs.com/Superpitcher-So-Far-So-Super/release/8395925
― originoo b.i.g. bizkit (brimstead), Friday, 3 June 2016 18:52 (seven years ago) link
no "softmachine", though.
― originoo b.i.g. bizkit (brimstead), Friday, 3 June 2016 18:57 (seven years ago) link
and wow i was not aware that he did a single with Westbam ten years ago
― originoo b.i.g. bizkit (brimstead), Friday, 3 June 2016 18:58 (seven years ago) link
i just ordered one. impulse buy! though to be honest i'd rather have it on CD.
― scott seward, Friday, 3 June 2016 19:12 (seven years ago) link
in honor of this thread i'm gonna listen to kompakt all summer.
― scott seward, Friday, 3 June 2016 19:13 (seven years ago) link