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but really, how far are these people from people who are gonna sleep outside the apple store for that ipad 3

iatee, Saturday, 4 February 2012 01:31 (twelve years ago) link

no but the ipad is revolutionary why dont u see

lag∞n, Saturday, 4 February 2012 01:32 (twelve years ago) link

this is a paper from 2009(?) that gives a little more background on Mindvalley and def makes them sound more like a six sigma thing:

http://www.slideshare.net/fedeeli/agileentrepreneurship

― ⚓ (gr8080), Friday, February 3, 2012 4:25 PM

So this is a really interesting document. Not six sigma, and not very good presentation/slide design, but a totally legit summary/synthesis of a lot of "current" management/entrepreneurship chatter. Says a lot about the "why," remains hilariously/admirably vague on the "what."

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Saturday, 4 February 2012 01:35 (twelve years ago) link

but really, how far are these people from people who are gonna sleep outside the apple store for that ipad 3

― iatee, Friday, February 3, 2012 8:31 PM (4 minutes ago)

hmmm... maybe difference is intent in getting a specific response. iPad 3 marketing is designed to make the average consumer want it. if people freak out about it and lose 4 days work to buy it, that could be their own personal idiosyncrasy. compare it to marketing designed specifically to take advantage of easily duped people by selling snake oil. now I'm getting into lolaw mode.

Spectrum, Saturday, 4 February 2012 01:37 (twelve years ago) link

the thing with crossfit is a lot of people want to be in crazy awesome shape for whatever reason, and doing crossfit on the reg will do that. the basic exercises are pretty solid. it's less culty than ab machines on that count.

yeah snake oil is in the eye of the culture and you'll have a hard time making absolute value judgments one way or the other.

lil kink (Matt P), Saturday, 4 February 2012 01:41 (twelve years ago) link

well, snake oil here is ... iPad 3 that works v. an iPad that's actually a cut-up pizza box spray painted silver. can't imagine any evidence coming out showing that the Silva Method really works.

Spectrum, Saturday, 4 February 2012 01:43 (twelve years ago) link

i've wanted to try crossfit but the group thing scares me off. also $. i like intensity in exercise but the culture around it not so much. same with yoga tbh.

lil kink (Matt P), Saturday, 4 February 2012 01:44 (twelve years ago) link

I thought crosscut was over and people do p90x now, or is it vice versa?

mh, Saturday, 4 February 2012 01:46 (twelve years ago) link

theyre both popular, v similar, crossfit is more community grassroots style px90 is all corporate and pro

lag∞n, Saturday, 4 February 2012 01:47 (twelve years ago) link

ive never done crossfit but the people seem v supportive and not that bad

lag∞n, Saturday, 4 February 2012 01:49 (twelve years ago) link

the only thing I know about crossfit is that one of my gf's grad school friends does it and she is in very good shape

iatee, Saturday, 4 February 2012 01:49 (twelve years ago) link

yah it seems like a p good system for getting ripped

lag∞n, Saturday, 4 February 2012 01:50 (twelve years ago) link

the idea of working out w/other ppl is weirder than quantum jumping to me

RYVITA® (Lamp), Saturday, 4 February 2012 01:52 (twelve years ago) link

p90x is like the do-it-at-home call-this-900-number version of crossfit. it's a "program", crossfit is a "brand" with gym affiliates and certified trainers.

lil kink (Matt P), Saturday, 4 February 2012 01:52 (twelve years ago) link

i maybe give px90 the slight edge cause they employ the incredible phrase muscle confusion

lag∞n, Saturday, 4 February 2012 01:53 (twelve years ago) link

just to be clear itt crossfit gets culty about eatin' paleo and whatnot but is not actually a cult.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Saturday, 4 February 2012 01:53 (twelve years ago) link

ive never done crossfit but the people seem v supportive and not that bad

― lag∞n, Friday, February 3, 2012 5:49 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yep this is what i've heard too

lil kink (Matt P), Saturday, 4 February 2012 01:54 (twelve years ago) link

i did eat paleo for a while and it was p amazing

lag∞n, Saturday, 4 February 2012 01:54 (twelve years ago) link

my old roommate tried to get me into paleo pretty reg. didn't seem that bad, just can't get into a diet with a name.

Spectrum, Saturday, 4 February 2012 01:55 (twelve years ago) link

i wanted to say something about the language that advertising deploys and how its kinda a root language for all this mindvalley/mgmt theory/optimize yr lyfe stuff where content and tone get separated but now all its all i can do to go on and on abt my theories of how best to exercise

RYVITA® (Lamp), Saturday, 4 February 2012 01:56 (twelve years ago) link

the idea of working out w/other ppl is weirder than quantum jumping to me

― RYVITA® (Lamp), Friday, February 3, 2012 5:52 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes, this^ basically

lil kink (Matt P), Saturday, 4 February 2012 01:56 (twelve years ago) link

it makes working out much easier is all

lag∞n, Saturday, 4 February 2012 01:57 (twelve years ago) link

i paid for a personal trainer for a few months and i felt as ashamed w/ myself for paying someone to make me exercise as i prob would attending a quantum jumping seminar, but damn it if i wasn't in better shape than i'd been in years :\

⚓ (gr8080), Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:05 (twelve years ago) link

I don't think there's anything weirder about having a personal trainer than having a shrink, nobody's got perfect inner drive for achieving their fitness goals or whatever and if paying someone to help you helps, why not

iatee, Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:09 (twelve years ago) link

by nobody I mean nobody on ilx

iatee, Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:10 (twelve years ago) link

hmmmmm

RYVITA® (Lamp), Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:11 (twelve years ago) link

a personal trainer is good if you're willing/able to go at their pace -- if they're in tremendously great shape, they might forget that you need to go a little slower for a while. i saw a trainer berating a young woman on the treadmill, being all "go faster! faster!" and the woman was like "this is as fast as i go, dude." jillian michaels style trainers = DUD.

textile in thighville (get bent), Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:16 (twelve years ago) link

pushin u 2 ur limit

lag∞n, Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:16 (twelve years ago) link

well I mean it depends on the context, there's a chance she wasn't 'pushing herself' and there's a chance he was just a dick

iatee, Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:17 (twelve years ago) link

MIND OVER MATTER

ugh

textile in thighville (get bent), Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:17 (twelve years ago) link

mindvalley over matterhorn

RYVITA® (Lamp), Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:18 (twelve years ago) link

haha

mind valley ranch

textile in thighville (get bent), Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:19 (twelve years ago) link

mind over hills and valleys

RYVITA® (Lamp), Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:20 (twelve years ago) link

pain is weakness quantum jumping out of your body

⚓ (gr8080), Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:22 (twelve years ago) link

scott seward joins us at last

⚓ (gr8080), Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:23 (twelve years ago) link

Katie Darling explains how we get bugs on our windshields and need wipers AND a chisel to clear our pain-bodies.

scott seward, Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:23 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.12inch.de/l/22323.jpg

xxxxxposts

textile in thighville (get bent), Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:25 (twelve years ago) link

I was thinking my work fitness center had a p90x thing but maybe it is another organized class. Trx or something? Straps hanging from ceiling.

mh, Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:40 (twelve years ago) link

p90x is basically a branded "circuit training" which lots of gyms offer

⚓ (gr8080), Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:42 (twelve years ago) link

anyway this is boring lets get back to these maniacs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsxRNkKwqcc

⚓ (gr8080), Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:53 (twelve years ago) link

we all know that launches are sexy

lag∞n, Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:53 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah that's TRX. Great stuff imo. Almost no end to what you can do with those things.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:54 (twelve years ago) link

you'd think such awesome asskicking awesomenessers would want to sit in real chair and not beanbags

the arm (NZA), Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:09 (twelve years ago) link

Almost no end to what you can do with those things

yeah those straps kind of look like they'd attach to cult sex furniture pretty well

mh, Saturday, 4 February 2012 03:19 (twelve years ago) link

she sounds like a undergraduate sophomore giving a mock-up "business pitch" in an introductory marketing class.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 4 February 2012 04:36 (twelve years ago) link

we all know that launches haunches are sexy

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 4 February 2012 04:37 (twelve years ago) link

i mean it sounds like she read a marketing textbook the night before and basically repeated it verbatim, spending about 5 minutes brainstorming re. the actual "product" they are supposedly selling.

who is impressed with this stuff?

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 4 February 2012 04:38 (twelve years ago) link

giving her presentation barefoot was a nice touch though.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 4 February 2012 04:39 (twelve years ago) link

also how many times can you really take something "to the next level" before you run out of levels?

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 4 February 2012 04:41 (twelve years ago) link


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