A "backlash" is a popular negative reaction to something which has gained popularity, prominence, or influence. Although it can sometimes represent a categorical rejection of the idea, aesthetic, product, or fad in question, it is usually a reflection of a collective resentment of that thing's ubiquity in culture and media, rather than a denial of its existence. The term is commonly applied to gender and racial discrimination and religious discrimination against minority groups, as well, such as in response to certain events or circumstances (e.g. the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001).
― I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Friday, 3 February 2012 20:16 (twelve years ago) link
i meant 'in most situations like this involving a hot new artist that get described as backlash' but yeah i didn't really state that explicitly sorry
― pfunkbo bryson (some dude), Friday, 3 February 2012 20:17 (twelve years ago) link
like Britney, Janet, etc., that's definitely classic backlash archetype material, which is exactly why i bristle at it being used to describe the first 6 months of a YouTube meme's career
― pfunkbo bryson (some dude), Friday, 3 February 2012 20:18 (twelve years ago) link
i think both some dude and DJP are right about backlash. two different tendencies can figure in: the spite of non-fans who become incensed by what they see as undeserved hype, and the spite of fans disappointed by changes in an artist's material or public persona.
― adolf jingle balls (contenderizer), Friday, 3 February 2012 20:19 (twelve years ago) link
I dunno, britney and janet situations seem like intentionally generated controversies, can you create your own backlash?
― I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Friday, 3 February 2012 20:24 (twelve years ago) link
cuz in that case about 80% of madonna's career is backlash
― I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Friday, 3 February 2012 20:26 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i guess the britney/janet things are a little too complex to be archetypal -- but those were big beloved artists who experienced a genuine wave of disinterest or distaste toward their new material, even beyond the media circus aspects of what happened
― pfunkbo bryson (some dude), Friday, 3 February 2012 20:32 (twelve years ago) link
wow you guys really CAN argue about anything
― Wie wol ich bin der vogel has noch den erfret mich das (forksclovetofu), Friday, 3 February 2012 21:04 (twelve years ago) link
Pile on cause there's lotsa room on the backlash train wooowoooo
― Wie wol ich bin der vogel has noch den erfret mich das (forksclovetofu), Friday, February 3, 2012 2:07 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
maybe if you don't want to see an argument don't say shit like this, DJ Non-Drama
― pfunkbo bryson (some dude), Friday, 3 February 2012 21:06 (twelve years ago) link
ha, it's not like i came here gunzablazing! that was in response to like five comments in a row about how not hot the artist in question was!
― Wie wol ich bin der vogel has noch den erfret mich das (forksclovetofu), Friday, 3 February 2012 21:08 (twelve years ago) link
should've posted a gif of a choo choo train to keep the tone light
― pfunkbo bryson (some dude), Friday, 3 February 2012 21:09 (twelve years ago) link
or at least a picture of Quad City DJs
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Friday, 3 February 2012 21:09 (twelve years ago) link
http://static.tvfanatic.com/images/gallery/i-choo-choo-choose-you.jpg
― Wie wol ich bin der vogel has noch den erfret mich das (forksclovetofu), Friday, 3 February 2012 21:10 (twelve years ago) link
tracklash
― surm, Friday, 3 February 2012 21:10 (twelve years ago) link
― Wie wol ich bin der vogel has noch den erfret mich das (forksclovetofu), Friday, February 3, 2012 4:04 PM
wrong
― I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Friday, 3 February 2012 21:31 (twelve years ago) link
i stand corrected
― Wie wol ich bin der vogel has noch den erfret mich das (forksclovetofu), Friday, 3 February 2012 21:33 (twelve years ago) link
no you don't
― I GUESS THAT CINNABON GETTIN EATEN (Edward III), Friday, 3 February 2012 21:34 (twelve years ago) link
*sobs*
― Wie wol ich bin der vogel has noch den erfret mich das (forksclovetofu), Friday, 3 February 2012 21:35 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.factmag.com/2012/03/26/diplo-in-the-dock-did-he-steal-that-azealia-banks-beat/
^ naughty diplo!
― Valéry Giscard d'Staind (NickB), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:19 (twelve years ago) link
shocked, simply SHOCKED that diplo might've lifted a beat
― Lil T the Bowed Jet (forksclovetofu), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:38 (twelve years ago) link
It's drumline. It all sounds vaguely the same.
― hot and brothered (Eric H.), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:47 (twelve years ago) link
nah
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:59 (twelve years ago) link
oh come on, AB's entire steez is to rap over other people's music
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:02 (twelve years ago) link
(that was to Eric)
can't believe diplo's in the dock
― A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:06 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, but "stealing" drum cadences? Is this high school state competition?
― hot and brothered (Eric H.), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link
(Was in HS drumline, tho, so I'm sort of predisposed toward liking anything with that as a backing track.)
― hot and brothered (Eric H.), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:17 (twelve years ago) link
liking/disliking has nothing to do with whether one is a direct lift of the other!
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:18 (twelve years ago) link
Don't I know it.
― hot and brothered (Eric H.), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link
seven years after "bucky done gun" people are surprised by diplo jacking a beat?
― lex pretend, Monday, 26 March 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link
it's not about copying a rhythm, he pretty clearly jacked someone else's whole recording (which probably used drum sounds from a sample pack, but still) and barely even changed it.
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:20 (twelve years ago) link
Vanilla Ice's "Ice Ice Baby" defense just leaped to mind
"the Queen song goes 'dun-dun-dun-dududun-dun/dun-dun-dun-dududun-dun', but MY song goes 'dun-dun-dun-dududun-dun/DUN-dun-dun-dun-dududun-dun', it's completely different"
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:23 (twelve years ago) link
*consults the movie Drumline*
― JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:38 (twelve years ago) link
conclusion: Nick Cannon
― JIM THOMETHEUS (zachlyon), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:40 (twelve years ago) link
otm
― lag∞n, Monday, 26 March 2012 17:41 (twelve years ago) link
its a nearly exact copy while at the same time being incredibly generic, in conclusion the guy prob deserved it
― lag∞n, Monday, 26 March 2012 17:42 (twelve years ago) link
yo can't copyright no beats man
― internet somebody (some dude), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:42 (twelve years ago) link
but im giving it a new name --diplo
― lag∞n, Monday, 26 March 2012 17:45 (twelve years ago) link
but you can copyright sound recordings, right? although like i said, these drums are probably from some royalty-free commercial sample pack.
way cooler to record your own drumline samples imo.
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:48 (twelve years ago) link
i was just quoting flav man
obv if you're using the same master recording there's a legal issue that wouldn't exist if you're just emulating
― internet somebody (some dude), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:50 (twelve years ago) link
i have been told BY THE INTERNET so it is true that this is from a pile of beats diplo gave AB to freestyle over when he was getting to know her, was not intended for mass consumption necessarily
― Lil T the Bowed Jet (forksclovetofu), Monday, 26 March 2012 20:05 (twelve years ago) link
with people e-mailing tracks back and forth and posting them to soundcloud as soon as they're done etc. honestly this kind of thing is just going to inevitably become more and more common. but again diplo has done very little to make people not assume the worst when there's any confusion about authorship in things with his name on it.
― internet somebody (some dude), Monday, 26 March 2012 20:25 (twelve years ago) link
had high hopes for Azealia, but I haven't really dug any of her shit aside from "212". actually, her Interpol cover isn't bad either.
― UnderControl, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 00:55 (twelve years ago) link
i quite dislike her. the guntalk on this record is not very becoming, and as brainwasher pointed out to me, its odd for someone to diss nicki minaj on twitter than bite her style from a few years back so completely
― D-40, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 07:51 (twelve years ago) link
Huh, that's surprising
― Lil T the Bowed Jet (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 11:40 (twelve years ago) link
More and more I am realizing that "212" was a brilliant fluke
― Joan Cusack clumsily running into a water fountain (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 12:11 (twelve years ago) link
she is someone we've been aware of for like, all of what, five months? let's...... relax
maybe nothing will be as great as "212" but then again, to my mind that's a very high bar anyway
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 13:49 (twelve years ago) link
I don't get the adulation tbh. I don't think she's terrible but the only thing I find really distinctive or interesting about her is that she said "cunt" 5000 times in "212".
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 13:50 (twelve years ago) link
Guys I read recently that in Jamaica producers reuse each others' beats all the time but that it's ok because its is a culturally acceptable practice and the beats are called "riddims."
― i don't believe in zimmerman (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 13:54 (twelve years ago) link
hahaha
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 13:55 (twelve years ago) link