Indefinite Detention? But I Have Soccer Practice at 4: U.S. Politics 2012

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I'm so pleased for PP and for the women who will get medical care b/c of the donated money, but I am positively GLEEFUL at the message it sends that they had to re-instate the funding in this atmosphere, because jesus christ but there's not much be gleeful about in women's health issues these days.

one little aioli (Laurel), Friday, 3 February 2012 16:31 (twelve years ago) link

man some people better be getting fired at komen, what a fucking pr disaster.

iatee, Friday, 3 February 2012 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

just to make it official and make you feel like you're on top of the social media wave

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/02/report-komen-reverses-decision-to-cut-planned-parenthood-funding/1

dayo, Friday, 3 February 2012 16:36 (twelve years ago) link

man some people better be getting fired at komen, what a fucking pr disaster.

― iatee, Friday, February 3, 2012 11:33 AM (4 minutes ago)

typical job killing socialist here

tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Friday, 3 February 2012 16:38 (twelve years ago) link

If Rosie is on the ballot, I will recant my abstention intentions and vote for her. (She was making noise about doing this last summer.)

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 February 2012 16:47 (twelve years ago) link

LOL! I can't believe I'm going to be voting for Roseanne!

Today is Cocaine's Birthday! (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 3 February 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

But three sources with direct knowledge of the Komen decision-making process told me that the rule was adopted in order to create an excuse to cut off Planned Parenthood. (Komen gives out grants to roughly 2,000 organizations, and the new "no investigations" rule applies to only one so far.)But three sources with direct knowledge of the Komen decision-making process told me that the rule was adopted in order to create an excuse to cut off Planned Parenthood. (Komen gives out grants to roughly 2,000 organizations, and the new "no investigations" rule applies to only one so far.) The decision to create a rule that would cut funding to Planned Parenthood, according to these sources, was driven by the organization's new senior vice president for public policy, Karen Handel, a former gubernatorial candidate from Georgia who is staunchly anti-abortion and who has said that since she is "pro-life, I do not support the mission of Planned Parenthood." (The Komen grants to Planned Parenthood did not pay for abortion or contraception services, only cancer detection, according to all parties involved.)

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/02/top-susan-g-komen-official-resigned-over-planned-parenthood-cave-in-updated-with-statement-from-ex-komen-official/252405/

Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Friday, 3 February 2012 17:02 (twelve years ago) link

The consequences of redistricting in North Carolina—one of the most important swing states in the country—could determine who controls Congress and the presidency in 2012.

OK, I'm confused. Does NC or any other state assign their electoral votes for president based on who wins the most congressional districts?

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 February 2012 17:50 (twelve years ago) link

I'm pretty sure at least a couple of states assign their electoral votes on a per-district basis. Not at all common, though.

Aimless, Friday, 3 February 2012 17:56 (twelve years ago) link

lol at any of you planning on voting for Roseanne and lol at her for running

Mordy, Friday, 3 February 2012 17:58 (twelve years ago) link

I might! p sure Minnesota won't be plumping for Romney

i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:03 (twelve years ago) link

xxpostif you live in a solidly blue or red state i say go for it!

but if you're in anything approaching a swing state >:(

your dominican divorce (will), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:04 (twelve years ago) link

seriously considering voting for Roseanne

max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:06 (twelve years ago) link

as many of us said on F'book when the NDAA was signed: fuck Obama. AND DON'T BACKPEDAL.

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link

A more potent rallying cry if you had a better electoral system.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 3 February 2012 18:15 (twelve years ago) link

oh who cares - morbz lives in NY, he can vote for whoever he wants. surely tho there's another third party candidate who deserves your vote more than Roseanne???

Mordy, Friday, 3 February 2012 18:17 (twelve years ago) link

have you seen the third party candidates recently

max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link

not since last election, but it's hard to imagine there's no one better.

Mordy, Friday, 3 February 2012 18:19 (twelve years ago) link

you are welcome to write me in if you'd like

mookieproof, Friday, 3 February 2012 18:20 (twelve years ago) link

OK, I'm confused. Does NC or any other state assign their electoral votes for president based on who wins the most congressional districts?

maine, nebraska. I think nc dems almost got a system like this in 2007 but didn't. either way nc not gonna be a deciding state.

iatee, Friday, 3 February 2012 18:27 (twelve years ago) link

Roseanne has to get the Green Party nomination b4 any of you can actually vote for her.

jaymc, Friday, 3 February 2012 18:27 (twelve years ago) link

my bad

Today is Cocaine's Birthday! (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:28 (twelve years ago) link

wow, heretofore I have actually underestimated what a fraud the presidential election is.

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:30 (twelve years ago) link

it's not a fraud if you live in like four states, you actually get to decide the fate of the free world

iatee, Friday, 3 February 2012 18:30 (twelve years ago) link

I might! p sure Minnesota won't be plumping for Romney

― i love pinfold cricket (gbx), Friday, February 3, 2012 12:03 PM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^dude, this is how we elected Ventura

Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:32 (twelve years ago) link

ha I was just about to post "TS: President Barr vs Governor Ventura" but I got distracted by an M.I.A video

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:33 (twelve years ago) link

I actually like RB. I liked her show and it got better when she gained more controll. I don't care about her politics or her nut farm and I think the fact that she might be on a ballot is almost as shameful as the Republican primaries.

Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:37 (twelve years ago) link

Do you think Roseanne wd pick Ginsburg or Sotomayor to swear her in?

If the goal of the candidacy and the vote is to send a message on behalf of the 99%, it's hard to think of a more appropriate ("better") candidate than Roseanne, who is perhaps their biggest voice in US culture in the last 30 years.

I think Obama being renominated uncontested is shameful.

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:44 (twelve years ago) link

what year is this? 1995?

Mordy, Friday, 3 February 2012 18:47 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, I am with you on RB and her voice. But voice /= competent governing. lol at voting to "send a message". Have you ever seen how people parse those "messages" from the voter? And what message does voting for a third party send anyway? Was it the same message with Perot as it was with Nader?

Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago) link

Morbz loves the shame

max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:53 (twelve years ago) link

I think Obama being renominated uncontested is shameful.

otm.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:53 (twelve years ago) link

perot and nader were also arguably washed-up from their professions when they ran, too. and roseanne isn't that much worse than either reagan or schwarzeneggar when those clods began their political careers.

i'll at least listen to what roseanne has to say.

wad of baloney (Eisbaer), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link

I have to go soon, but I'm def in the 'morbz otm' camp

Today is Cocaine's Birthday! (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 3 February 2012 19:01 (twelve years ago) link

voice /= competent governing.

oh, spare me from the competence we've had the last 30+ years.

also, she's not going to win.

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 February 2012 19:02 (twelve years ago) link

even if you want obama flanked from the left, there's no widely-agreed-upon figure that could do that job atm.

iatee, Friday, 3 February 2012 19:03 (twelve years ago) link

was gonna say (pace frank zappa in 1988 or so), even if roseanne doesn't know shit from shinola how could she do much worse -- what's she gonna do, crash the world economy or start a pointless war or use the Constitution for toilet paper or something like that?!?

wad of baloney (Eisbaer), Friday, 3 February 2012 19:05 (twelve years ago) link

are we seriously talking about how roseanne would run things if she became president

iatee, Friday, 3 February 2012 19:05 (twelve years ago) link

no, we are talking about how Nixon through Obama have run things since they've been President.

wad of baloney (Eisbaer), Friday, 3 February 2012 19:06 (twelve years ago) link

anyway, like morbz said she isn't going to be President anyway ... she might not even get nominated.

wad of baloney (Eisbaer), Friday, 3 February 2012 19:08 (twelve years ago) link

she needs a super pac

curmudgeon, Friday, 3 February 2012 19:15 (twelve years ago) link

All that happens to make things run (all the people that are doing the right things that we agree with and don't pay attention to) comes from soldiers slogging through the tedium. wrt some celebrity giving voice to the 99% and effecting change, how many bumper stickers u got on your car demonstrating your unconventional life choices and serious thinking?

She won't win anyway.

Yeah this is probably a dumb argument and I'll stop agitating from my side. I just don't think Obama/Rosanne is a for real dichotomy.
I'll just leave off with I like Rosanne and stick to other subjects.

Unleash the Chang (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Friday, 3 February 2012 19:24 (twelve years ago) link

i know it is possible to go too far the other way & get all C'MON IT'S EASY TO BE PRESIDENT but i don't think it's totally w/o merit to be into the idea of like a non-politician president; I remember in the is barack obama a sociopath thread the conclusion being, probably no, but most agreeing that to want to be president you are probably gonna be kinda weird, kinda unbalanced, already. i don't know that someone - like idk anything about roseanne - less demographically inclined/entitled towards politics would be so awful, provided that their approach to governing was to like hire people who knew shit, defer to experts, stay true to their goals in a kind of 'don't be evil' sense, &c. i'm sure there are people here who know a lot more about it than i do, & i'm sorta uncomfortable at implying that with the gender switch there was too much of a change otherwise, but afaik rwandan governance has really benefited from the kind of previously untried, largely female (emphasising this bc it's true of rwanda, not bc it's true of roseanne), seemingly collaborative rule it has inherited & tried over the past decade, for a variety of reasons.

quick brown fox triangle (schlump), Friday, 3 February 2012 19:25 (twelve years ago) link

there's no such thing as 'experts'

iatee, Friday, 3 February 2012 19:26 (twelve years ago) link

'experts' in economic, foreign policy, domestic policy etc. are all on some level ideological. there's no way to avoid making political decisions when you are in politics just cause you're going w/ 'experts'.

iatee, Friday, 3 February 2012 19:28 (twelve years ago) link

Herman Cain disagrees

max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 3 February 2012 19:30 (twelve years ago) link

'sending a message' is well nigh useless in politics and roseanne is not going to be a good carrier of one either.

that said i look forward to her being interviewed by megyn kelly or whoever

Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Friday, 3 February 2012 19:36 (twelve years ago) link


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