ok strike the "not just" from that sentence, kind of awkwardly hanging there unresolved
― some dude, Friday, 3 February 2012 15:43 (twelve years ago) link
I don't know, I'd blame Myspace for all that more than marketers. How many indie rock bands had "crunk" or "hip-hop" in their description?
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 3 February 2012 15:53 (twelve years ago) link
actually kind of brings me back to something i thought about Vampire Weekend a couple years ago -- like they were almost TOO savvy about not just what they were going for in terms of image/signifiers to the point of spelling it out for people constantly, which might have almost motivated people to get all meta about it because critics already had so much of the work done for them of just covering the basic surface level aspects by the artist
― some dude, Friday, February 3, 2012 10:42 AM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this actually makes a lot of sense the more i think about it.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 3 February 2012 15:56 (twelve years ago) link
somedude OTM about the wordcloud.
― Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Friday, 3 February 2012 16:32 (twelve years ago) link
watching that letterman thing it seems like her puffy lips effect her singing! and that song just seems weirder and weirder to me every time i hear it.
and no matter how much sex scandal stuff about letterman we know he just can't stop leching...talk about retro.
― scott seward, Friday, 3 February 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link
mad men HAS to be dave's favorite show of all time.
― scott seward, Friday, 3 February 2012 17:02 (twelve years ago) link
her tone is exactly that of the press release - but i don't think she's unique in it, i've noticed this tone creeping into more and more places of late, whether that's hypeblogs or churnalism
― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Friday, 3 February 2012 17:06 (twelve years ago) link
did you just make up "churnalism"? or is that a real thing?
― scott seward, Friday, 3 February 2012 17:10 (twelve years ago) link
maybe it's the profession of music critics who write about choons
― pfunkbo bryson (some dude), Friday, 3 February 2012 17:13 (twelve years ago) link
it's a neologism used by uncreative journalists to complain about uncreative journalism
― mh, Friday, 3 February 2012 17:14 (twelve years ago) link
well, it's specifically about rehashing press releases in the guise of journalism
― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Friday, 3 February 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link
― scott seward, Friday, February 3, 2012 7:02 AM (11 minutes ago)
lol otm
― ⚓ (gr8080), Friday, 3 February 2012 17:18 (twelve years ago) link
how does the word 'churn' relate to plagiarizing or rewording PR exactly?
― pfunkbo bryson (some dude), Friday, 3 February 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link
i think dave likes LDR because she basically looks like julia roberts in the 90s when she was dave's favorite guest to flirt with
― pfunkbo bryson (some dude), Friday, 3 February 2012 17:20 (twelve years ago) link
'churn' is kind of either stirring something. you're coming up with a "new product" but you don't really add or remove anything. so if you rearrange words in a press release and publish it..
― mh, Friday, 3 February 2012 17:22 (twelve years ago) link
err, I mean either stirring something or it's used to reference turnover within a field
― mh, Friday, 3 February 2012 17:23 (twelve years ago) link
i'm surprised this term hasn't made it to the US yet
― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Friday, 3 February 2012 17:25 (twelve years ago) link
hollywood adcore
(love "churnalism" btw)
― adolf jingle balls (contenderizer), Friday, 3 February 2012 17:31 (twelve years ago) link
"Churn out" means to mass produce something with little regard for quality. I thought "churnalism" refers to the fact that these press releases etc. are reproduced across the media without any real work going into it.
― Number None, Friday, 3 February 2012 17:31 (twelve years ago) link
that too, it's a very versatile phrase
― mh, Friday, 3 February 2012 17:37 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, i dig it.
― scott seward, Friday, 3 February 2012 18:59 (twelve years ago) link
So I finally listened to this and I suppose there's some potential, but I can't help but feel that I'm listening to Hooverphonic b-sides.
― Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Friday, 3 February 2012 21:17 (twelve years ago) link
Lana Del Rey's major label full-length debut album, "Born to Die," is off to a fast start. Industry sources say that the set may sell between 60,000 to 70,000 copies by the end of the tracking week on Sunday, Feb. 5. That should easily give the album at No. 2 debut on the Billboard 200 chart next week.
― buzza, Saturday, 4 February 2012 07:13 (twelve years ago) link
remember when albums could sell a million copies on the week of their release? sigh.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 4 February 2012 07:15 (twelve years ago) link
The awkward chorus of "Off to the Races" makes me think of Annie's "sexy" song in that glee club episode of Community.
this was exactly my reaction the first time i heard it! especially that little giggle she does on "singin' in the garden."
― ban opinions (reddening), Saturday, 4 February 2012 09:16 (twelve years ago) link
That has to be deliberate though, doesn't it? The squeaks on 'harlot' and 'starlet' come across as very knowing, rather than a ham-fisted attempt at sexy.
― Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Saturday, 4 February 2012 09:58 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah it's definitely knowing, that makes me cringe all the more though.
it's too bad they don't let baz luhrmann make movies anymore, think of the mileage he could get out of lana
Dude you know he's doing The Great Gatsby right now, right? It's a good job Lana's come along so late in the day because there's no way in hell he'd have been able to resist that one.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:04 (twelve years ago) link
IN 3D!
― pandemic, Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:06 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.drudgesiren.com/siren.gif'I don't think I'll write another record. What would I say? I feel like everything I wanted to say, I've said already.'http://www.drudgesiren.com/siren.gif
― Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 5 February 2012 20:25 (twelve years ago) link
What does her Interscope contract say?
― Tired of these edcuated basic bitches. (lilsoulbrother), Sunday, 5 February 2012 22:11 (twelve years ago) link
Liz Phair brings...something:
http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2012/02/04/liz-phair-on-why-lana-del-rey-scares-rocks-boys-club/
Let me break it down for you: she’s writing herself into existence. She’s giving herself a part to play because, God knows, no one else will and she wants to matter in this life. As far as I can tell, it’s working. I went straight to iTunes and bought her new release “Born To Die” in toto (how often do I do that??) because it was more than a collection of songs or a performance, it was a phenomenon. Maybe all the more so because she’s not overwhelmingly talented.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 5 February 2012 22:21 (twelve years ago) link
hats off Ms Phair. she's Number 1 in the UK album chart as of this evening and the album's outstripping the rest of the Top Five put together with 117,000 sales in a week. a phenomenon indeed as the good lady points out.
― piscesx, Sunday, 5 February 2012 22:29 (twelve years ago) link
Maybe all the more so because she’s not overwhelmingly talented.
good backhanded compliment
― I DIED, Sunday, 5 February 2012 22:31 (twelve years ago) link
She bought the album though.
― Tired of these edcuated basic bitches. (lilsoulbrother), Sunday, 5 February 2012 22:33 (twelve years ago) link
'I don't think I'll write another record. What would I say? I feel like everything I wanted to say, I've said already.' ^feel like this was something liz phair should have said at one point.
― omar little, Sunday, 5 February 2012 22:33 (twelve years ago) link
i fucking love liz phair
― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Sunday, 5 February 2012 22:56 (twelve years ago) link
(which i didn't really do before)
takes one to know one huh
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 5 February 2012 23:04 (twelve years ago) link
A comment from Facebook: "Liz's quote reads so much better when using your best Troy McClure voice."
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 5 February 2012 23:18 (twelve years ago) link
on the bus, homeless-seeming guy talking to his buddy across the aisle:
"i'm watching this kid play video gaaaames. never was into video games myself. kind of bores me."
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Sunday, 5 February 2012 23:19 (twelve years ago) link
haha xp
― iatee, Sunday, 5 February 2012 23:19 (twelve years ago) link
spoken like a true PR
― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Sunday, 5 February 2012 23:46 (twelve years ago) link
idk why anyone is bothered by how much anyone sells
does it make it better for you? worse?
― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Sunday, 5 February 2012 23:47 (twelve years ago) link
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, February 4, 2012 2:15 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
it happened last year! twice (almost)!
― some dude, Monday, 6 February 2012 01:37 (twelve years ago) link
feeling pretty prescient about my liz phair parallel way upthread now
― some dude, Monday, 6 February 2012 01:38 (twelve years ago) link
― some dude, Sunday, February 5, 2012 7:37 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
who?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 6 February 2012 03:35 (twelve years ago) link
when a critic is reduced to using feminism to defend an artist, you can know they're really bad
― lifestyle porn (the kid), Monday, 6 February 2012 03:45 (twelve years ago) link
can someone esplain this "flag post" thing to me?
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Monday, 6 February 2012 04:26 (twelve years ago) link
Lady Gaga and (almost) Lil Wayne.
― jaymc, Monday, 6 February 2012 05:22 (twelve years ago) link