the crimes of george lucas ('90s on)

The Ewoks are light years better than anything in the new trilogy.

but Lucas has always had full control of the merchandising did he not?

I can picture an alternate world where we grew up with this cool C3PO who was like the metal version of Rudy Russo, and someone going "Ew, Lucas originally wanted him to be this poncey A/R butler type dude."

Irwin Kershner mentioned that they changed C3PO's style for Empire b/c they needed comic relief somewhere and he was the only option left.

He was pretty much comic relief in Star Wars though?

Different vibe in SW. He talked his way thru situations and was a bit craftier in his few scenes

Yoda's pretty funny in Empire.

I like star wars better in black and white

Yes but remember if Lucas had his way in the 70's C3PO would have been like a used car salesman. We were just lucky he didn't have 100% control at the time.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, February 3, 2012 9:08 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

not so much a question of "control" but who lucas was surrounded with and how willing he was to take their advice.

i get the sense that these days he is surrounded by yes-men who question his judgement only at professional cost. that is evident even in the bonus materials on some of the star wars DVDs.

back in the '70s he wasn't "george lucas (tm)" and this had real effects both in terms of his own willingness to collaborate and other folks' willingness to question his bad ideas.

Jedi bait:

http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/review/star-wars-episode-i-the-phantom-menace/6039

what is funny is that because I am not completely familiar with their ratings, I couldn't tell if they gave it 0/4 stars or 4/some indeterminate number because nothing was shaded

yeah. I believe the site was hacked during the day too, lolskywalker

guys lets pray that tpm3d fuckin TANKS

i mean i know it wont

but... wouldnt it be nice

While we are opposed to the Star Wars films and their mysticism, George Lucas's tendency towards replacement of the live-action elements in his re-releases is a step in the right direction of a new cinema. Hopefully in the next re-release he will replace all of the human actors with CGI creations.

^

not a banaka fan but loved that

Hayden Christensen weeps (perhaps w/ gratitude)

I will be there this weekend, btw. I came home last night and my son gave me a very honest plea to see it.

One time I accidentally bad-mouthed Jar Jar Binks in front of him and he looked at me very confused and hurt and said "You don't like Jar Jar?"

Feel ashamed to say this, but I'll be taking my son to this over the weekend, and I'm the one who's excited about it.

I also saw TPM several times in the theater when it originally came out. I may have a problem....

I'm there for you, Moodles. I saw it at midnight when it opened and several times after that.

(I'm white, btw)

I saw both TPM and AOTC twice in theaters, in an attempt to convince myself and others that each was better than they actually were.

ROTS I didn't see until someone uploaded it to YouTube in 10 parts, which probably wasn't the way to watch that one.

have you guys seen this? it's not good, but might have some extra chuckles for you.

http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/review/fanboys/4000

I actually saw ROTS at the charity premiere in Washington, DC, my wife having surprised me with $250 per person tickets. I sat directly in front of Debbie Reynolds and Carrie Fisher.

xp "Not good" is very, very charitable for something that wastes the talents of everyone involved.

you are all the problem.

well Fanboys did have one great Harrison Ford joke

Have always been disappointed that the Phantom Menace contained no actual phantoms.

http://screamsheet.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/gerard-butler.jpg

http://dawnsdvds.com/h/phan.gif

Looks about as good as the Phantom Menace, for what it's worth. Ben Affleck as Obi-Wan, Peter O'Toole as Qui-Gon...

I do love the "top-billed, not on poster, lol old people" nature of the whole thing.

you are all the problem.

^^^

this "thank you sir may I have another" psychology is baffling.

I also saw TPM several times in the theater when it originally came out. I may have a problem....

― Moodles, Wednesday, February 8, 2012 7:48 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm there for you, Moodles. I saw it at midnight when it opened and several times after that.

― You got to ro-o-oll me and call me the tumblr whites (Phil D.), Wednesday, February 8, 2012 7:55 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I saw both TPM and AOTC twice in theaters, in an attempt to convince myself and others that each was better than they actually were.

― beachville, Wednesday, February 8, 2012 7:55 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Lets face it, the prequels gave all us SW nerds Stockholm syndrome

Says the guy named after Trade Viceroy Nute Gunray. Yes I do want to kill myself for knowing that.

Now, has everybody else here all seen the RLM takes on these flicks?

^^ urgent & key

ya, that's the last time i'm going to spend towards star wars again. those are great.

RLM?

rindustrial light and magic

http://www.freecoloring.info/img/scooby-doo-02.gif

These:

http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/star-wars/

They go into what made the prequels fail as movies, versus why the originals worked. I like these a lot b/c they serve both as film class lectures, you could say, and as autopsies. Thanks to these guys, nobody ever needs to think about the prequels ever again. The flicks are dead & buried now.

The vids deconstruct the movies from a character & narrative angle, and in reviewing the 3rd one, spend an extended amount showing exactly how Lucas is a horrible director who just stopped trying decades ago.

A sample taste:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI

Well worth your time, as is their weekly "Half in the Bag" review series.

They have been discussed at length in this thread.

I know. I'm asking again b/c the folks who participate in active convos in here change over time.

oh shit there's an indy 4 one? see you in an hour.

he also reviews 'cop dog' - wtf that is

the cop dog review is excellent imo

He actually doesn't totally hate Indy 4 iirc

idg the appeal of those RLM things. can people not work out for themselves why these movies are awful or something

seems like they act more as therapy for victims of Lucas' abuse than as anything particularly insightful

sigh