❀ the cult of: ➥motivational speakers ➥life coaches ➥personal growth gurus ➥new-age charlatans ➥AWESOMENESS FEST

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"i was using my creative abilities from music and from writing... and applying it into something solid... that I could you know, change into money somehow"

... and that thing was internet marketing, rather than yanno, like, being a musician or a writer!? o_0

thanks to denial, I'm immortal! (Trayce), Thursday, 2 February 2012 05:38 (five years ago) Permalink

i love this stuff and am disgusted by it at the same time. it's like cults and capitalism had some weird marriage together. amway is an old fav.

Spectrum, Thursday, 2 February 2012 05:40 (five years ago) Permalink

Trayce, he said: "FAIL! Don't be a writer" and gave a thumbs down, and even blew a raspberry, if I'm not mistaken!

garbage corn fan (Je55e), Thursday, 2 February 2012 05:41 (five years ago) Permalink

Oh ok I was skimming the damn thing, he rambles like a cokehead.

thanks to denial, I'm immortal! (Trayce), Thursday, 2 February 2012 05:41 (five years ago) Permalink

this trend is pretty much the final collective human dreamsong of psychosis before we all lose our identities permanently, rite?

Mordy, Thursday, 2 February 2012 05:43 (five years ago) Permalink

WTF is Zynnia's mysterious tragedy?

Zynnia’s life has been filled with both blessings and also profound loss.

Zynnia’s sole mission and purpose in life is to fully enjoy each moment and live in full awareness and gratitude for the power of now. Zynnia knows all too well, that at any moment tragedy can strike and the whole world you grow comfortable with can be ripped apart.

garbage corn fan (Je55e), Thursday, 2 February 2012 05:45 (five years ago) Permalink

she wanted waffles but they served pancakes instead :'(

Mordy, Thursday, 2 February 2012 05:47 (five years ago) Permalink

I mean

Zynnia has lived through it and she has immense wisdom and maturity from that journey. This is why she very consciously chooses a life of dreams coming true.

"it"?

I'd choose a life where dreams come true, but just this week I dreamed that the copier at work was located at O'Hare airport, so I can't risk it.

garbage corn fan (Je55e), Thursday, 2 February 2012 05:50 (five years ago) Permalink

"I'm in the process of both expanding and contracting my business."

blew my mind

the "intenterface" (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 2 February 2012 05:50 (five years ago) Permalink

lol that was my favorite too.

really stoked you are all here, btw.

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 05:51 (five years ago) Permalink

amway is an old fav.

see, this is the thing... say what you will about Amway, they may be selling you overpriced toothpaste but at least you're getting an actual product to clean your teeth with.

these dudes aren't even that far removed from people who make money teaching men how to date women (Sean Stephenson has actually dipped in to this), but like, at least with Pick Up Artist gurus, the promise is that dudes will come out less afraid of talking to women-- which is a lot more solid than, "awesomeness!".

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 05:51 (five years ago) Permalink

also a fan of when zynnia shouts "LIVE VICARIOUSLY THROUGH ME AND MY FAMILY!"

the "intenterface" (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 2 February 2012 05:58 (five years ago) Permalink

lol otm

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:01 (five years ago) Permalink

OUT: dance moms
IN: video moms

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:01 (five years ago) Permalink

so far, my favorite Mindvalley product is QUANTUM JUMPING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

just watch this interview Vishen did at the home of Burt Goldman, developer of the Quantum Jumping method:

http://www.quantumjumping.com/special/meet-burt-goldman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBTmeK52xec

1) count how many times they mention money
2) be sure to watch till 6:43. I promise you won't be disappointed.

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:02 (five years ago) Permalink

i bet you guys are doubling the view count on all of Zynnia's videos right now

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:03 (five years ago) Permalink

quaNTUM JUmping

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:08 (five years ago) Permalink

two phrases came into his head the first was PLANT YOURSELF the second was Take lots of pictures

the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:09 (five years ago) Permalink

heads up, y'all: 2012 will not be the end of the world:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTsKRAHqrf0

bonus copping of 99% jargon

also:
http://i.imgur.com/mFViR.png

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:10 (five years ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/RNYEY.png

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:11 (five years ago) Permalink

i was forced (along with my workmates) to attend a customized motivational seminar once. we managed to completely sabotage it -- i think i made one of the two seminar leaders cry. i am not ashamed. these folks are the lowest of the low, occupying a totally unnecessary niche opened up by the worst tendencies of corporate culture and "self-actualization" rhetoric.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:11 (five years ago) Permalink

can you remember who the speaker was?????

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:12 (five years ago) Permalink

"I'm in the process of both expanding and contracting my business."

Trans: "I am in a constant state of starting up new concerns, hoping the IRS wont catch me when I declare bankruptcy on the old ones"

thanks to denial, I'm immortal! (Trayce), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:14 (five years ago) Permalink

xpost

no they were nobodies... folks that were routinely hired by the business school of the university where i worked to provide "teamwork seminars" for different groups. i wasn't in the business school but i guess our boss decided to try them out.

IIRC one of the two speakers was trying to get us to learn about "optimizing teamwork" based on lessons from ... wait for it... people who "successfully" survived the holocaust. i interrupted him and told him that i couldn't leave the seminar because i was being paid to attend but that he would not be continuing this line of discussion.

he looked sort of lost, looked at the other speaker who nodded, then he kind of hung his shoulders and stepped aside for the next part of the seminar.

the head of my department, who arranged the seminar, was mortified.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:16 (five years ago) Permalink

"I personally dont believe 2012 will be the end of the world"

WOW AMAZING!~!!!! D:

thanks to denial, I'm immortal! (Trayce), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:17 (five years ago) Permalink

xpost

i got a lot of high-fives from coworkers the next day, though.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:17 (five years ago) Permalink

IIRC one of the two speakers was trying to get us to learn about "optimizing teamwork" based on lessons from ... wait for it... people who "successfully" survived the holocaust.

oh my god

horseshoe, Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:18 (five years ago) Permalink

guys there are also endless amounts of "video cover letters" from people applying for a job at Mindvalley©

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqUP9jgACAI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCNEvMNCU1A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISBkiVpjXXM&

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:19 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah wow amst that is... I'm gobsmacked.

thanks to denial, I'm immortal! (Trayce), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:19 (five years ago) Permalink

I mean I thought the motivational bullshit day my old workplace pulled on us once was in bad taste (they themed it on "Survivor" the TV show - the week my entire team had been told we were being laid off!).

But that just... wow.

thanks to denial, I'm immortal! (Trayce), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:20 (five years ago) Permalink

amateurist that is A+ work

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:21 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah. for a guy who was ostensibly a "motivational" speaker he seemed pretty weak and demoralized. i think i ruined his week. i would've felt bad if his presentation wasn't so egregiously offensive.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:21 (five years ago) Permalink

this stuff is just megachurches but on a smaller screen and without the vestigial jesus part

the "intenterface" (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:26 (five years ago) Permalink

Mindvalley staff group photo

http://i.imgur.com/fPdKM.jpg

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:30 (five years ago) Permalink

^all of these people live & work in Kuala Lumpur

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:31 (five years ago) Permalink

the new series "young, attractive, and profoundly flaky" debuts on bravo this saturday!

anyway...

i forgot the other good part of my motivational seminar experience.

one part of the seminar was devoted to a "game" in which we were given note cards, and asked to write--anonymously-- one instance of "positive reinforcement" and one "constructive criticism" of each of our coworkers.

some of my coworkers refused the participate. i should have but decided just to do the "positive reinforcement" part.

some of the "constructive criticism" read like poison pen letters: "beth really has an attitude." "i don't think jeff is any good at his job." "i feel like jeremy is constantly talking down to people."

it made at least one of my coworkers cry. and it ended in a general uproar with us asking the "motivational" speakers for their credentials and wondering aloud how many times they had done this before.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:33 (five years ago) Permalink

so basically, if you see a motivational speaker walking down the street, just go ahead and cold cock him or her. you will do the human race a great service.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:34 (five years ago) Permalink

lol now i want a comedic series based based on motivational speakers in the style of Party Down

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:39 (five years ago) Permalink

that pic looks like a "yelp elite event"

omar little, Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:39 (five years ago) Permalink

xpost. just getting a total amway vibe from this awesomefest/mindvalley thing. create a culture where you're special (attracting lost souls, of course = easy marks), using gurus to lead you to The Secret of personal fulfillment (making money, somehow), create a fraudulent presentation that being an affiliate will make you lots of it, with only a tiny chance of that happening.

amway's way creepier, but seems like the same basic deal ... deluding poor souls into parting with their money and getting them to shell out more. Mindvalley/Awesomefest seems linked to The Secret somehow. This is actually pretty interesting.

Spectrum, Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:42 (five years ago) Permalink

my friend just got fired from his job working as a lifecoach

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:43 (five years ago) Permalink

rather, working for a lifecoach

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:43 (five years ago) Permalink

lol i was gonna say

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:44 (five years ago) Permalink

Several people who appeared/starred in The Secret have spoken at Awesomeness Fest

⚓ (gr8080), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:45 (five years ago) Permalink

seminar as placebo effect

omar little, Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:45 (five years ago) Permalink

so much shame in that room...

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:47 (five years ago) Permalink

part of an email friend got back when trying to get paid for the two weeks before he was fired:

On an practical and business front. Since you were hired on as a subcontractor in the get go and that from the outset we were going to take a look a few months down the road as to how we were to proceed, I feel as though that has come to fruition. And although the review of things did not look like we both thought it was going to, both initially and according to where we were playing weeks before christmas, it happened the way it did. In my mind it occurred and adjusted to suit the situation and position I found myself in (with complete commitment to not doing another thing that looked like it did prior to that moment). Although that might be hard to explain, interpret or understand, things like this happen for some of us and there is a watershed and things change overnight. It did, there's no other explanation or rationale.

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:50 (five years ago) Permalink

holy shit

the "intenterface" (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:51 (five years ago) Permalink

honestly that is the freakiest thing about this phenomenon to me, the way it seems to curdle people's ability to use language properly. a college roommate got really into the landmark forum and it was like she just spoke gibberish all the time suddenly.

horseshoe, Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:55 (five years ago) Permalink

i have a couple of friends who got into landmark forum and invited me to join a writer's group they were putting together, and i realized about three meetings in i was accidentally getting landmarked.

omar little, Thursday, 2 February 2012 06:56 (five years ago) Permalink

Vishen... c'mon man

mh, Monday, 1 August 2016 15:45 (one year ago) Permalink

five months pass...

Not quite the same arena but the mini-cults of personality that have popped up around certain podcast celebrities and writers is fascinating. They're all sort of Trumpy and paleo and whine about SJWs even when it doesn't seem to have anything to do with their schtick. Random Sam Wang tweet tonight had some guy who immediately started in on "well, you just haven't read Nassim Taleb's argument against GMOs" then repeating himself that you'd understand IF ONLY YOU HAD READ LORD TALEB'S PAPERS.

Sam Harris gets the same "well if only you had READ THIS" veneration and outrage if you point out that basically no one respects his attempts at philosophy. Bunch of schmucks who were on the Joe Rogan podcast have turned this into an entire ecosystem. My favorite are professors who whine about not moving up in academia and blame it on conspiracies against them and being 'too popular with students.'

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 13 January 2017 08:41 (ten months ago) Permalink

super otm

goole, Friday, 13 January 2017 17:15 (ten months ago) Permalink

ppl are really into trying to find an organizing principle or source of truth to contextualize their decisions and instead of traveling evangelist preachers with road shows we end up with Joe Rogan's podcast and Taleb mocking people for not being swole

mh 😏, Friday, 13 January 2017 18:46 (ten months ago) Permalink

I accidentally engaged with Thaddeus Russell because he popped up under something trending a month ago with "drug laws effect white men too, why don't they ever mention THAT when they're talking about incarceration rates huh" and tapped out after he wouldn't respond to "whynotboth.gif"

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Friday, 13 January 2017 19:07 (ten months ago) Permalink

haha wait I want to know more about nassem talib mocking people for not being swole

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 21 January 2017 07:00 (ten months ago) Permalink

he apparently talks about weightlifting and uses it to mock people all the time

mh 😏, Saturday, 21 January 2017 14:52 (ten months ago) Permalink

That's some straight up Nazi shit tbh

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Saturday, 21 January 2017 15:44 (ten months ago) Permalink

that is amazing. quel flâneurisme!

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 21 January 2017 18:59 (ten months ago) Permalink

ha i forget which thread it's on but i've posted a bunch of these -- searching his feed for "deadlift" is great, every one a gem

goole, Monday, 23 January 2017 18:28 (nine months ago) Permalink

Someone should counter-troll asking why he's too much of a wuss to do yoke carries or Atlas Stones.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 23 January 2017 19:25 (nine months ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

great recent post from ya boy vishen

Confession: for the past 12 months I had been going through extreme stress without realising it. When a doctor mapped by brain and told me I was showing the brainwave patterns of CEO’s facing burnout, I refused to believe it. I’m one of the world’s top meditation advocates. This can’t be happening to me. The machine’s busted. I thought. Mindvalley had a spectacular year and I was having fun. What could be the problem?

tpp, Friday, 8 September 2017 07:48 (two months ago) Permalink

omg link plz

gr8080, Wednesday, 13 September 2017 22:01 (two months ago) Permalink

ah the classic "im CEO-level stressed because im so busy and important" humblebrag.

ryan, Thursday, 14 September 2017 17:16 (two months ago) Permalink

https://www.facebook.com/mindvalley/posts/1606646776046995

mh, Thursday, 14 September 2017 17:36 (two months ago) Permalink

omg tpp left out the best part, the list of experiments our thought expert has undergone

mh, Thursday, 14 September 2017 17:37 (two months ago) Permalink

although I am wondering why "trying nootropics" is something he has only tried after
"Injected Stem Cells into my body to repair nerves and help improve brain performance. (painful)"

mh, Thursday, 14 September 2017 17:38 (two months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Here's some fucking scary shit:

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/NXIVM-secretive-group-where-women-are-branded-12288356.php

akm, Wednesday, 18 October 2017 21:39 (one month ago) Permalink

yikes.

also lol of course the dude who made WHAT THE BLEEP DO WE KNOW got roped in.

maura, Thursday, 19 October 2017 09:09 (one month ago) Permalink

i clicked on this very clickbaity story, and then boom there it was, 11th paragraph

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-mysterious-death-of-a-tantric-sex-guru

goole, Saturday, 21 October 2017 20:32 (one month ago) Permalink

“Like Mindvalley’s A-Fest” is a good punchline. I’m sorry about that lady though.

El Tomboto, Saturday, 21 October 2017 22:52 (one month ago) Permalink

julia allison has been getting into all this stuff, if any of you remember her

maura, Sunday, 22 October 2017 02:30 (four weeks ago) Permalink

as a journalist, thought leader, or follower?

mh, Sunday, 22 October 2017 14:54 (four weeks ago) Permalink

as a selfie-taker mostly

so i guess """"journalist""""

maura, Monday, 23 October 2017 00:53 (four weeks ago) Permalink

i once blabbed to n!t@$h4 t!ku at a party for half an hour about mindvalley and awesomeness fest and begged her to investigate and write something.

gr8080, Monday, 23 October 2017 19:21 (four weeks ago) Permalink

Malaysian friend of mine who had been mostly smoking pot in the USA in the decade-plus since he came here for college moved back to Malaysia and was INSTANTLY sucked into this world. Within a month of being back there he was all sharp suit and haircut, "personal branding", an "entrepreneur" without a business or product, the whole nine yards.

Thing is, though, it kinda seems like it's working for him? He looks genuinely happy, even if he does post rah-rah MLM bullshit on Facebook ten times a day. I hate to think about how much money is being leeched from him by whatever organization has their hooks in him (dude seems to be at "seminars" every other week), but he really seems to be doing better emotionally than when his life consisted of pot, minimum wage, and GTA5.

Dan I., Thursday, 26 October 2017 18:11 (three weeks ago) Permalink


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