Leonard Cohen albums poll

"Coming Back To You" is a beaut, isn't it

I've got to have your word on this
or none of it is true
And all I've said is just instead
of coming back to you

And since she spoke the truth to me
I tried to answer truthfully
Whatever happened to my eyes
Happened to your beauty
Happened to your beauty
What happened to your beauty
Happened to me

in full command of every plan you wrecked - my favourite :)

is there anybody who really likes Dear Heather? i never listened to that one...

I love the song Dear Heather, if that counts...

yeah there are some good songs on it, and nothing on it is unlistenable. it's just kind of incoherent and some of it is a bit slapdash. it's respectable.

has anyone bought that complete studio albums box set that came out last year? not complete anymore, i guess. anyway, was wondering if the remastering on death of a ladies man is any good -- don't think that one's been worked on since the beginning of the CD era.

drop a tweet or note to a. begrand - I know he got it because he wrote about it.

I asked him on twitter.

has anyone bought that complete studio albums box set that came out last year? not complete anymore, i guess. anyway, was wondering if the remastering on death of a ladies man is any good -- don't think that one's been worked on since the beginning of the CD era.

― tylerw, Thursday, February 2, 2012 2:22 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

probably not. i don't think they are doing new masters for any of these box sets. plus, they are ugly.

As far as I am aware only the first 3 LP's have been remastered. The rest are just the standard issue releases.

Oh, I voted for 'New Skin' by the way.

hm, too bad about the death of a ladies man disc, would be curious to hear it w/ a fresh remaster. such a murky album (mostly in a good way). i sort of expected that at some point, cohen's demos for ladies man (which must've existed at some point) would emerge on a deluxe edition. would be cool to hear those songs as cohen originally presented them to spector.

I've never heard a Cohen demo of anything, but since some of the songs took years to finish, I'm guessing they exist.

I've read some of the 99 verses that didn't make it into "Democracy", and they're as good as the ones that stayed.

yeah i guess i've never heard cohen demos either -- just seems like with that record, cohen would've had versions of those songs that he gave to spector and then spector went nutso w/ 'em. Maybe I'm wrong?

I've only heard the first three (all pretty great) and I'm Your Man (never really got into, found the production really off-putting). I'd go with the debut without hesitation.

Not being a Leonard Cohen fan, I really enjoy Death of a Ladies' Man.

has anyone bought that complete studio albums box set that came out last year? not complete anymore, i guess. anyway, was wondering if the remastering on death of a ladies man is any good -- don't think that one's been worked on since the beginning of the CD era.

― tylerw, Thursday, February 2, 2012 2:22 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

probably not. i don't think they are doing new masters for any of these box sets. plus, they are ugly.

actually all the albums in that box are remastered versions

really? remastered beyond the recent masters?

also let's be honest this is fucking beautiful:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDemnguRYj4

I mean that the first three albums were reissued w/new remasters and bonus tracks in, what, 2007? those neat little hardback book editions. maybe there was a project to do the same for all the back catalogue but it seems to have stalled. and yes, I believe all of them are remastered (even the recent ones) except for the first three (which are the same as the 2007 remasters, but without the bonus tracks).

all of them in the complete studio albums box, I mean

and to complicate matters still further, there is also a "complete columbia albums" box which includes the live albums as well. these are also remastered.

yeah i guess i've never heard cohen demos either -- just seems like with that record, cohen would've had versions of those songs that he gave to spector and then spector went nutso w/ 'em. Maybe I'm wrong?

― tylerw, Monday, 6 February 2012 15:59 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there are a few alt versions on the last set of reissues, of the first few recs - a diff dress rehearsal rag, a song called 'in the store room' which shed a little light. & chelsea hotel #1 on the live in israel bootleg, just after he wrote it w/a bunch of extra verses, is crucial.

I don't know about demos for DOALM but they recorded like twice as many songs so there are a half dozen tracks somewhere maybe hidden in a cave beneath Phil Spector's crazy mansion.

those would be fun to hear. there's probably a good screenplay to be based on those sessions. but considering cohen's opinion of the album and spector's um situation, an expanded version of the album is unlikely. guess some bootlegger needs to go digging in phil's backyard!

DOALM outtakes?!? gimme

huh wikipedia sez: 15 songs were written by the two over a course of three weeks, and Spector described it as "some great fuckin' music". Not everyone agreed with this assessment, preferring Cohen's earlier acoustic folk music to the jazz-, rock- and even funk-influenced arrangements. Among the seven unknown outtakes is probably "Do I Have to Dance All Night"

yes Leonard, you do have to dance all night

some great fuckin' music

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I have a good bunch of his albums and haven't listened to any of them as much as they deserve. But on impulse I'm going with Love and Hate.

loooove VP's album tracks: "Coming Back to You," "The Captain," "The Law."

I'm Your Man gets my vote. That'll always be my favourite.

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Results OTM, surprisingly.

no votes for ten new songs?!

i should've voted for recent songs b/c i think that one gets slept on.

death of a ladies' man is kind of the dark horse here -- how did that happen?

Ranked ballots might provide an interesting contrast. eg. I wonder how many would actually rank his 1st two records last among his studio albums pre-1979. (Regardless of most rating at least one other more highly.)

yeah DoaLM above the first two is some challopy shite.

I'd put DoaLM above his second but not his first.

no votes for ten new songs?!
i am sure i voted for it. this poll definitely needs a recount! or was my vote eliminated as i am german?

First we took Alex in Manhattan....

rubbish, i voted for the new one, old ideas...

how did that happen?

it's great and I can't make it through any of his other records

Are all the votes for "Death of a Ladies Man" another example of ILM's contrarianism.

glad geir is here to back up you up anagram

sorry, long day, but it's an amazing rec no challop

well it pains me to say it but I do have to agree with Geir.

btw Geir you need to get over to the Ask Geir thread, there are some outstanding questions there.

i love death of a ladies man, but didn't vote for it. as shakey's vote shows, it's the album for people who aren't big fans of cohen's other work -- either the delicate arrangements of the early stuff or the slimy synth pop of the 80s stuff.