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now i want vietnamese food. i'm hungry again...

scott seward, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:45 (twelve years ago) link

scott the best vietnamese in philly is on washington ave around 11th street, also on 6th

dayo, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:46 (twelve years ago) link

montreal's chinatown was really small, like one block, from what I remember of my visit there

dayo, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:47 (twelve years ago) link

i haven't been in philly in so long! since i moved. which is like 8 years now. which i can't believe. 9 years even! holy smokes. but the restaurant called Vietnam in chinatown was one of my favorite restaurants in the city and i never had chinese that equalled it there. and there was another good place too but i forget the name.

things have probably changed though...i can't believe it was that long ago.

scott seward, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:54 (twelve years ago) link

i've been on ilx for 9 years. that's what that means. holy toledo. that's crazy too.

scott seward, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:55 (twelve years ago) link

10 years in june! i checked. i should have a party. by myself.

scott seward, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:58 (twelve years ago) link

and cry...

scott seward, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:58 (twelve years ago) link

seattle's "international district" (chinatown) is basically pan-asian, but it's large, active and gots lots of good chinese restaurants. and people.

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 04:04 (twelve years ago) link

it'll be 10 years in August for me. and I'm only 24. :/

xpost

tumblring dice (crüt), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 04:06 (twelve years ago) link

Chicago's "New Chinatown" (on Argyle Street) is actually mostly populated by Vietnamese and Thai people.

Regular Chinatown is on the South Side, and I think most of the Asian people there are Chinese.

I don't know why they call the one up north "Chinatown," "New" or otherwise, except maybe...racism?? (I went with the name "Little Saigon" which is another name for it.)

garbage corn fan (Je55e), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 04:10 (twelve years ago) link

this will be annoying but:

" Jewish but (GOOGLE:NOPE)NOT Semitic:
AntiSemitism" a verbal(GOOGLE:NOPE) weapon to hide Zionist crimes and save Zionist reputation.(GOOGLE:NOPE)
This word "Antisemitism"(GOOGLE:NOPE) is extensively used by only the Zionist Jews. This has become a (GOOGLE:NOPE)verbal weapon to save their name and hide their war crimes."

so craftie , i am in awe.

Sébastien, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 06:09 (twelve years ago) link

pretty sure it's racist. pretty pretty etc

Sébastien, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 06:10 (twelve years ago) link

are you quoting the 'scarlet johansson is a clone' author?

Mordy, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 13:40 (twelve years ago) link

I haven't heard that theory! How do I acquire another of these clones?

mh, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 14:06 (twelve years ago) link

remember that sydney erupted against people of lebanese descent a couple of years ago.

Remember that a small bunch of young racist thug dicks who are actively territorial about individual WAVES IN THE OCEAN in a small area of Sydney that is so against the outside world that many of them literally don’t even go into the city... erupted against a deliberate group of ppl of Lebanese descent making a demonstrative incursion onto “their territory”

a certain type of (american) customer would avoid such an amalgamation; another type would be all like 'this place has asian food covered amirite'

Saw a suburban restaurant on the weekend called “SEAT – Your Housetaurant” with “outh east sian and hai” spelled out from the vertical acronym in tiny letters

Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 02:49 (twelve years ago) link

a deliberate group of ppl of Lebanese descent making a demonstrative incursion

should know their place amirite?

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 04:13 (twelve years ago) link

scott (or dayo), did you ever go to the Burmese place in Philly? it's really good.

an a drive (los blue jeans), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 04:45 (twelve years ago) link

[xpost to contenderizer]

I am 100% in favour of public demonstration whether ad hoc or organised, dickhole, hence using that approving adjective to describe the actions of people looking to start a fight, just saying that not even wilfully isolationist aggrobogans from Cronulla were fomented by A1an J0n3s to drive an hour forty to my mother's suburb, which has THE HIGHEST PER-CAPITA LEBANESE-IMMIGRANT-AND-DESCENDED POPULATION IN THE STATE, if not the country, and smash up all their light-up Santas and reindeers, and there were no "eruptions" any further out of the Shire than fucken Punchbowl, so perhaps AA's entirely-well-meant line might have been expressed slightly over-broadly

Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 05:15 (twelve years ago) link

you're right sic, I didn't mean to smear 4.5m people by describing the actions of one (1) very small bag of dicks, will be more careful in future

Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 05:34 (twelve years ago) link

also if I've missed a further point please dickhole me at will

Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 05:38 (twelve years ago) link

irl lol @ "dickhole"

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 06:21 (twelve years ago) link

an approving adjective, iirc

his hands are a dirty fountain through which lives spurt (contenderizer), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 06:24 (twelve years ago) link

also if I've missed a further point please dickhole me at will

nah I knew what you meant. but while Australia has many layers of complex problems with racism, I do think the physical foofooraw had a lot more to do with young male pack-bonding to overcome insecurity, and both surfie and Shire culture, than it did with endemic racist attitudes (on either side - the "Aussie sluts" putdowns reported to have been dropped by the rejected suitors are the only on-site citation of r-bombs pre-11/12, and if true, they're self-evidently auto-cancelling in context <cf "Gangsta Gangsta" stanza 2, by Prof. O'Shea Jackson, 1988 {Priority}>, even without being coupled with "virgin," as they were.)

TLDR:

in the txt-msg organisation of the potential-fighting, the same racial language is used on both sides evenly as plain descriptors, not as weighted abuse – cf. "Every fucking aussie. Go to Cronulla Beach Sunday for some Leb and wog bashing Aussie Pride ok" vs "All lebo I wog brothers. Sunday midday. Must be at North Cronulla Park. (...) fight each Aussie. Yulleh. Lets get hectic and turn gods country into wogs country. Habib will be cookin victory kebabs after. Tell all your cousins"

It’s not until J0n3s gets involved that the leb vs skip element becomes really racially tinted beyond Our Team and Your Team. Whether the above were genuine, created by the “other side”, or sent as fakes to generate outrage, it’s on the level of Soccer Fans X organising to have a fight with Soccer Fans Y because they’re young, bored, frustrated and Having A Grand Old Biff will be fun and strengthen their own sense of belonging to something.

The rhetoric gets specifically and wilfully amplified by J0n3s, and notably among ppl who aren’t physically nearby, nor in any way likely to get involved*. “Middle Eastern grubs.” Cutting off an older lady caller who tries to dampen his racism with "Let's not get too carried away, Berta. We don't have Anglo-Saxon kids out there raping women in western Sydney." And repeatedly reading out one of the texts calling for “Aussies” to gather at the park in North Cronulla.

*Although of course it's then the wider media reportage of Jones' pulpit-pounding throughout the week that may have spread the ire to tourists, or given locals a rhetoric to seize.

waaaaay TLDR:

(Even the police report is very scrupulous about noting that apart from strutting and braggadocio, the Lebanese roosters on the beach throughout the year, up until the lifeguard push‘n’shove on the 4th, caused no other major problems; and super-super-tellingly for an objective official document, observes that the 5000-strong crowd gathering on the 11th “consist[ed] mainly of young Caucasian males draped in Australian flags and wearing beach attire”, and notes TEN MINUTES LATER a briefing of officers on “Recent intelligence concerning 'Bra Boys.’" (The first TWELVE incidents of violence recorded, across the following SIX HOURS, are all of crowds assaulting 1, 2 or 3 men, sometimes noted being of “Middle Eastern” appearance – it’s not until 4.20 that there’s a one-person-against-crowd incident (with no race alluded to)... and that’s one young man throwing a beer bottle at police, who arrest him while a crowd of 500 jeer and spit on the cops, who charge him with “possess drug” and ask the local bottle-os to close voluntarily. That the whole thing is so largely a fomentation of AM radio is underlined by the first actual group of “Middle Eastern” dudes to turn up in the area, instead of going “yeah orright” when cops or State Rail go “carn fellas it’s not worth it, go home and have a beer eh”, are at the hospital in KOGARAH almost EIGHT HOURS after the Jones-advertised gathering, in response to reports about the blokes injured earlier in the day.)

aaaaanyway, no frogbo, gonna stop reading this 104pp PDF and go to the pub

Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 07:54 (twelve years ago) link

summary – j0n3s is a vile disingenuous bigoted cunt (on that we can all agree)

Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 08:04 (twelve years ago) link

am laughing at dickhole as a verb too! xp

dave cool it (stevie), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 08:18 (twelve years ago) link

Take it to Use this thread to judge other people for their fetishes

beachville, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 13:12 (twelve years ago) link

dickhole me elmo

Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 13:58 (twelve years ago) link

as you wish *dickholes you*

i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 14:30 (twelve years ago) link

I saw that one coming, but it was still great

mh, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 14:35 (twelve years ago) link

never saw that version of "The Princess Bride"

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 14:38 (twelve years ago) link

is a dickhole a hole in a dick or a hole for a dick

onimo, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 14:52 (twelve years ago) link

or a hole made by a dick
like a pinhole, but with dick

onimo, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 14:53 (twelve years ago) link

I came here to post that I overheard a guy in the office saying "oh yes that coloured boy" then denying any intended racism when someone pulled him up for it, then found myself pondering dickholes.

onimo, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 14:54 (twelve years ago) link

never saw that version of "The Princess Bride"

lolll

i think this is serious (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 15:07 (twelve years ago) link

I came here to post that I overheard a guy in the office saying "oh yes that coloured boy" then denying any intended racism when someone pulled him up for it

I used to work with a white sth african who would jovially yell 'DON'T HATE ME COZ I'M BLACK' in the office all the time, insisting that it proved he wasn't racist

Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:58 (twelve years ago) link

I don't talk to him any more

Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 19:58 (twelve years ago) link

oh my

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:27 (twelve years ago) link

http://nhregister.com/articles/2012/01/28/news/metro/doc4f24c2c3b8808976093729.txt?viewmode=fullstory

In a situation in which East Haven police are accused of violating the rights of Latino residents, many of them Ecuadorean — and in a town that in the past has been accused of discriminating against blacks — Maturo appointed just one minority member to a new eight-member committee formed to look for ways to improve the Police Department.

That man, Jose Velasquez, is Puerto Rican.

In an extensive discussion that followed a reporter’s observation that Maturo didn’t appoint any of the Ecuadoreans who appear to make up the bulk of East Haven’s fast-growing Latino community and own most of the Latino businesses along Main Street, Maturo questioned why anyone would need to choose “a certain type of Latino.”

“If there’s a certain type of Latino that I should have picked, well then let somebody write it down on paper,” Maturo said. “‘I want a 5-foot-2, I want a certain sex.’ You tell me what you guys want. You want me to order it?”

When it was noted that Puerto Ricans are born as American citizens and travel freely to and from the mainland, while Ecuadoreans come from another country on another continent, are not automatically U.S. citizens and face immigration issues when they come to the U.S., Maturo responded, in part:

“I mean, if I had to pick an Italian, do I pick a northern Italian? A southern Italian? We’re Italians. I picked a Latino. Did it have to come from a certain section of the country? You know what? I think that’s a foolish statement to make. And I feel bad that you made it.

“I wouldn’t make a statement like that,” Maturo said. “I brought in a Latino. Is he not dark enough for you? Light enough for you? I don’t know. ... I wouldn’t have said that.”

Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:27 (twelve years ago) link

"taco mayor"

Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:29 (twelve years ago) link

Did it have to come from a certain section of the country?

Wow. Just...fucking wow.

Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:29 (twelve years ago) link

this guy = kind of lol but mostly sad, but also mostly lol

tumblring dice (crüt), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:29 (twelve years ago) link

it will be less lol if he doesn't actually go down in flames tho

tumblring dice (crüt), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:30 (twelve years ago) link

it's p amazing to watch someone too stupid to be an asshole correctly

Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:30 (twelve years ago) link

ALL IS FORGIVEN, FROGBS

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:31 (twelve years ago) link

Racist, funny

beachville, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:31 (twelve years ago) link

wait, did he actually get banned? because if so that was a dick move of a post and I apologize

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:31 (twelve years ago) link

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beachville, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:32 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, everything he said can be pretty much reduced to that "part of the country" line

and it is an amazing question

yeah, dan, fbs is gooone

mh, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 20:32 (twelve years ago) link


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