Samurai Jack

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RE the little kids thing mentioned upthread: I think SJ is very much written and designed with adults in mind. It seems to be insufficently hyperactive for a kiddie cartoon these days.

"Do any little kids watch it?"

In the UK at least practically no-one watches it, as it's ghettoised on a digital channel with little or no promotion. A real shame, it should have a slot on terrestrial. Maybe Channel 4, just before The Simpsons.

chap who would dare to kill all the threads (chap), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:06 (sixteen years ago) link

I own the first season on DVD, it is pretty flawless.

Does anyone have any personal preferences when it comes to choosing between the po-faced action episodes vs the more comedic stuff?

I wonder how Samurai Jack fits into the Po Faced Absurdity aesthetic, anyway. It is very frequently absolutley preposterous, and on paper some of it almost reads like "2000 AD" (the episode I just watched, for instance, features an angry scottsman with a machine gun for a leg and a gang of redeneck robot alligators, all of this delivered without a hint of self-awareness), but I suppose it's very different from both old style american comic mentalism and "2000 AD" stuff because it lacks a certain taste for shoddyness (i.e. the preposterous parts are in the characters and the general premise of the show, never in the structure of the plot); I guess it's not Punk, basically?

The theme song is one of the all-time greatest non-Neptunes Neptunes tracks ever (even though it was made by a Bl*ck Ey*d P*a)

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Was it? Holy shit!

chap who would dare to kill all the threads (chap), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:29 (sixteen years ago) link

In that case it's far and away my favourite Bl*ck Ey*d P*a tune.

By the way, I'd take issue with you about the lack of self awareness thing. SJ so well designed to target the plesure spots of a certain type of twenty/thirty something male (ie the descerning geek) that it could almost be described as supremely arch.

chap who would dare to kill all the threads (chap), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, saying that Samurai Jack isn't self-aware is kind of like saying that the X-Men isn't an angsty soap opera.

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Ok, maybe self-aware isn't the right word. A better way of explaining what I mean: with 90% of the cartoons around right now, if they tried to pull any of the shit Samurai Jack does on a regular basis, they'd probably have to have some character wittily allude to the absurdity of the situation or something like that. There'd be a great big "YEAH, WE KNOW THIS IS ABSURD" sign planted in there - with SJ, everything's just handled very naturally, like "yes OF COURSE Jack has just been adopted by a gigantic blue bunny creature, what of it?".

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Like, one of the worst developments in cartoons I think was when suddenly everyone *had to* go all meta and reference the absurdity of the situations they're in, the predictability of the plotlines, etc etc etc, which is ok for classic Warner Brothers cartoons but the way it's been used in so many of the shows I've seen just feels like they're trying to transcend the crappyness of their own work by alluding to it themselves, which is just so self-loathing and swarmy and nofun. "Samurai Jack" feels like a total antidote to that - no matter HOW silly things get, you're allowed to take them seriously, if you want to.

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 14 October 2005 18:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Before I take immediate action on this, someone please confirm that the Samurai Jack comic was the piece of shit that I think it was.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 14 October 2005 22:11 (sixteen years ago) link

I didn't even know there was one, but this page doesn't bode well:


chap who would dare to violate the least amount of laws of physics (chap), Friday, 14 October 2005 22:17 (sixteen years ago) link

three years pass...
stoked; tht's my sunday sorted

challops in sheep's clothing (cozwn), Sunday, 14 December 2008 12:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Ha, congrats - fantastic show.

Nhex, Sunday, 14 December 2008 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link

Still not available in Region 2 as far as I can tell, bah.

chap, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 11:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Probably my favourite episode:

chap, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 11:49 (thirteen years ago) link

I netflixed a bunch of these and then sent half of them back thinking I should wait until I have a kid or something

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 11:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Wasted on kids. I think the pacing of most episodes suggests it's concieved mainly for adults anyway.

chap, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 11:56 (thirteen years ago) link

SJ is gold. Wish they'd hurry on Region 2.

I don't think this is for children, I believe they would find it a bit boring...

hyggeligt, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 13:09 (thirteen years ago) link

SJ meet LEGO, LEGO meet SJ

hyggeligt, Friday, 19 December 2008 12:49 (thirteen years ago) link

This is definitely one of the shows that worked on both levels. Goofy characters and laughs with fun, very well directed action (Tartakofsky said he wanted to outdo the stuff he'd done on Powerpuff Girls) was for the kids - even the pilot episode I think had a reference to Two Stupid Dogs. The comedy was in the vein of previous Cartoon Networks shows of that previous decade, like PPG and Dexter's, though it was probably one of CN's first attempts at an original property, non-sitcom adventure show.

The often incredibly dry, other times Chaplinesque humor and copious film and pop culture references were definitely for adults (especially comics fans, manga and Frank Miller fans in particular). I missed probably about 1/4 to 1/3 of the series in broadcast, it's on my "inevitable apocalypse future to-do list" to get those DVDs and watch the whole series straight through. But don't be like me, don't wait for kids, watch that shit!

To be fair, I think it is more suited for kids of that day than today (due to it following PPG and Dexter) compared to most cable kids cartoons, but Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends was a hit - I think if they like that, Samurai Jack would appeal to many. The shame is that the ratings were never that great, but they kept it alive for four seasons anyway, which is pretty commendable (even if they didn't give us a actual ending which is sad as all hell). It was nice that it did at least get some Emmys and critical acclaim.

Nhex, Saturday, 20 December 2008 06:05 (thirteen years ago) link

I just watched season one, Aku's Fairy Tales is loooooolll.

sister s (ledge), Sunday, 21 December 2008 22:59 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Almost surprised there isn't an existing Cartoon Network thread, but I'm curious about Tartakovsky's upcoming SYM-BIONIC TITAN!
Couldn't find any promo art for the upcoming Firebreather directed by Peter Chung, unfortunately.

Nhex, Sunday, 25 April 2010 02:18 (eleven years ago) link

five years pass...
one year passes...

get. hype

Nhex, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 05:14 (four years ago) link

Looks sick.

chap, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 14:23 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

ok i was not really ready to hear the word "penis" on samurai jack 💀💀

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 21:46 (four years ago) link

Was this the episode in the crash-landed prison ship? Somehow I missed the penis.

20-lol pileup (WilliamC), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 21:57 (four years ago) link

it was in the throwback ep with scaramouche and demongo

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 9 May 2017 22:16 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

I finally watched the final season. It was amazing.
The accomplishment alone of bringing it back from 12 years was great enough, but they really took it further. It looks outstanding newly digitally produced in the HD widescreen aspect ratio and the themes were much deeper and darker than they could get away with in its original run. Disturbing and touching in many parts, very surprising in so many ways. Always beautiful.
And they actually ended it right. I loved it.

Nhex, Monday, 25 June 2018 05:44 (three years ago) link

Yes, it was really great

He said captain, I said wot (FlopsyDuck), Monday, 25 June 2018 11:26 (three years ago) link

I had a bad trip watching this when I was younger. Still curious.

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 25 June 2018 12:36 (three years ago) link

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