Cocteau Twins : Classic or Dud

One of the great bands of the 80s.

some time last autumn i had a funny turn :

falling in love with the cocteaus again.

http://www.ambitious-outsiders.com/images/lineup05.jpg

my heart just broke

I have only heard Heaven Or Las Vegas. Wouldn't say classic, because I have to be in the right mood for her *glossolalia*. But it sure is pretty music.

There must be UK dates, surely.

mdma

together

As for possible artistic directions, I could imagine a piece driven by Fripp Soundscape and Frisell Loops with electro-acoustic drum work By Pat Mastelloto, some electronically treated harmonized trumept lines by Nils Petter Molvaer, some excentric fretless bass work by Mick Karn and, beautiful piano/synth treatments courtesy of Ryuichi Sakamoto. I could think of may other possible directions, but this is just off the top of my head. All in all I still think she has the potential to surpass even the greatest cocteau twins moments, given the right environment.

I JUST RIPPED MILK & KISSES TO MY IPOD THEREFORE I RULE OKEETHNCXBYEEY

underrated album, that

The last one I bought was Four Calendar Cafe, but I think I heard Milk & Kisses once. Perhaps I should seek it out again.

"Violaine" is one of my favorite late-period Cocteau songs -- it stands up to the best of Heaven or Las Vegas, easily

This is the one Cocteau Twins album I actually had sex to.

intentionally?

Oh my god if Cocteaus could ever forgive you

Meanie!

Tell the X Mal Deutschland fans to go fuck it all.

Cocteaus happiness.
Quisquose.

I'm gonna sic the vinyl on your ass. I'm trying to peaceful, but...
sorry.

EAT THE VINYL

EAT IT

Oh shit

In a certain celebrity mailout this appeared...

'The reason the Cocteau Twins' comeback last year didn't happen is because even though Robin Guthrie and Liz Fraser had put their differences to the side (clue - £££££) Liz insisted that her partner be the drummer on the tour. Fine.

All was going well until Robin got pissed, looked through the tour expenses and saw that Liz's partner was getting paid a bit more than the other hired hands. He went batshit mental, rang up Liz and told her that this was outrageous and that he shouldn't even be getting paid AT ALL as Liz was making money and so her partner "didn't need to be paid".

Liz basically said (in indecipherable made-up language no doubt) she couldn't take this and if Robin was kicking off even before the tour started, it could only get worse. So she walked and that was it - reunion over. She apparently walked away from "millions".

Good for her.

I can understand being annoyed that he's making MORE than others but not getting paid AT ALL? Fuck that.

Not getting paid at all, says an anonymous secondhand source.

Yeah there's an obvious grain of salt there but still.

Give 'em a couple more years when they need to pay their mortgages, they'll come around.

I wouldn't be surprised if that was actually Guthrie's reaction. He always came across as socially retarded.

A story on Ms. Fraser in the Guardian the other day:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/nov/26/cocteau-twins-elizabeth-fraser-interview

And we do all grow older:

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Music/Pix/pictures/2009/11/26/1259231936986/Elizabeth-Fraser-Cocteau--001.jpg

Looks v. elegant!

She's been offered sums "beyond your wildest dreams" to collaborate with other artists – "the weirdest one was Linkin Park"

The hell.

The new song sadly sounds too much like Gotan Project but her voice is still awesome.

Which is all you need, really. (Well, maybe.)

Article's a little wrong at points when it comes to her musical silence -- for instance, she appeared (briefly) on the first two Lord of the Rings film scores, as apparently both Howard Shore and Fran Welsh were major Cocteaus fans, and she's specifically namechecked by both of them in the DVD documentaries, etc. etc.

And of course this was beautiful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRq7FxiSmxY

Woah. Thanks for info. Had no idea.

Happy 60th to Liz!

Yesterday in the northern suburbs of Chicago there was a blue minivan with Louisiana plates and a bumper sticker that said "STOP HONKING I'm trying to figure out what Cocteau Twins are saying" over the Heaven or Las Vegas cover art.

It's sold out

https://i.imgur.com/pI7Yi4b.jpg

John Bonham is all over this album huh

Yessir.

"1984’s Treasure was a landmark album for the Cocteaus that saw improvements in both their songwriting and Guthrie’s production—it also marked the debut of their multi-instrumentalist Simon Raymonde. They worked in some new gear, including an E-mu Emulator sampler and Yamaha DX-7 for bell sounds, but they stuck with their E-mu Drumulator with an important upgrade.

The change? Guthrie swapped out the original eproms for Digidrums’ Rock Drums chips, which featured samples of John Bonham from “When The Levee Breaks.” It gives the backing tracks a distinctive sampled edge but with a Drumulator feel.

In the magazine One-Two Testing, Guthrie explained how he used the Drumulator on the record. “We start with a very basic guide drum on the Drumulator. I’ve tried all the drum machines and that’s the most straightforward machine to work with. Examples? Well, supposing you wanted to erase a particular drum from a song. On some machines that would take you ages. With the Drumulator it’s straightforward. Tuning of the drums on it would be helpful, I suppose, but you could always varispeed them once they were on tape. I’ve got some of the new chips for our Drumulator—the Rock chips sound great. I’ll stick with that machine.”

Also Shout by Tears For Fears

twins becoming one of my fav bands

https://i.imgur.com/QFFJGor.png

The first 20 seconds of this sound like music for a secret super Mario brothers underworld level

https://thequietus.com/articles/33528-cocteau-twins-head-over-heels-anniversary

never picked up on either of those drum samples, good excuse to play treasure at a very loud volume when I clock out.

That Record Got Me High - Cocteau Twins 'Treasure' with Miki Berenyi

Ugh, that Quietus review gets 721 words in before it mentions the band or the album

Thanks, john

never picked up on either of those drum samples, good excuse to play treasure at a very loud volume when I clock out.

rock out with your clock out

https://i.imgur.com/1sNGV7D.jpg

Feel like“Slip Away the Chicken Slice” needs a comma.

Slip Away, the Chicken Slice

I coulda sworn "Bitter Gourd Grasping" was a BBK outtake but I guess not

also, ATTN Swen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaOlNfC8_xQ

Damn those clips were so laid back. I miss 80s news