― Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 9 July 2003 12:42 (twenty years ago) link
Well, to be pedantic about it, Richard Thompson stole the tune from a version of "Willie O'Winsbury" sung by Andy Irvine on the first Sweeney's Men album - the problem being that Irvine sang the WRONG melody. So the melody isn't actually "Willie O'Winsbury" at all.
it's what english folk song does best - dark, black songs rather than celtic fiddle-de-dee stuff
If you think that "English" folk music does "dark and black songs best" then I suggest you haven't heard anything like as much Scottish and Irish folk music as you should have to be making such judgements. And anyway given that the folk music of the British Isles is all intermingled and given that that song you hear on a Fairport album, or a Martin Carthy album, or a Nic Jones album, is just as likely to be Scottish or Irish as English then generalisations are not a good idea.
― Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 9 July 2003 13:25 (twenty years ago) link
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Talking of which, does any London ilm-er know whereabouts in Wimbledon the striking cover was photographed (Sandy Denny's parents house)? I'd love to see the location 40 years on.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a82/bobbysixer/unhalfbricking.jpg
Arthur Road, Wimbledon - apparently. But I couldn't find any recent photos - fans are so lazy these days.
― Bob Six, Sunday, 13 January 2008 12:06 (sixteen years ago) link
Let us praise it, indeed. I just soak up this kind of old-style British stuff like a sponge.
― It's hrd bein a man, livn' in a garbage pai (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Monday, 27 October 2008 06:55 (fifteen years ago) link
Come on, who is awake who knows this album? Speak now.
― It's hrd bein a man, livn' in a garbage pai (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Monday, 27 October 2008 07:07 (fifteen years ago) link
get the "new " fotheringay joint that just came outgreat sandy stuff on it!
― velko, Monday, 27 October 2008 07:14 (fifteen years ago) link
^yeah totally looking forward to getting the fotheringay thing when my emusic downloads reset
― thereminimum chips (electricsound), Monday, 27 October 2008 07:23 (fifteen years ago) link
Playing the rec right now thanks to your revival, Bimble!
― Myonga Vön Bontee, Monday, 27 October 2008 07:34 (fifteen years ago) link
Can't spell "Mattacks" without "attacks"!
― Myonga Vön Bontee, Monday, 27 October 2008 07:36 (fifteen years ago) link
What is "the rec" Myonga? The record?
― It's hrd bein a man, livn' in a garbage pai (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Monday, 27 October 2008 07:37 (fifteen years ago) link
And what is this bloody fotheringay stuff. Might as well give a drunk Bimble a link and not make him figure it out on his own, aye?
― It's hrd bein a man, livn' in a garbage pai (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Monday, 27 October 2008 07:39 (fifteen years ago) link
Why can't I die in England? If only to die on English soil! I don't know why...I just can't explain the subsconscious feelings I get when I hear stuff like this. I really can't explain it at all. I know it makes me look daft, but I can't figure out how to explain it. Deep in my ancestry, some kind of really deep memory thing. I can't put it into words at all.
― Living In A Garbage Pail (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Monday, 27 October 2008 07:47 (fifteen years ago) link
info on the lost second fotheringay lp, now available..
http://brainwashed.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7139&Itemid=1
― thereminimum chips (electricsound), Monday, 27 October 2008 08:13 (fifteen years ago) link
Thanks, Jim.
― Living In A Garbage Pail (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Monday, 27 October 2008 08:26 (fifteen years ago) link
I thought the "Unhalfbricking" pic was photographed somewhere near the entrance to Hyde Park, but if it is from Wimbledon I guess it just looks typically English then.
― Geir Hongro, Monday, 27 October 2008 09:19 (fifteen years ago) link
some, sure. b-sides and outtakes, the liege and lief outtakes "sir patrick spens" and "quiet joys of brotherhood" are nice. the meat is still on the original records.
"heyday" is a bbc sessions record - there's now a box of that material, and honestly i'd recommend it strongly. fairport convention were one of the greatest bbc session bands; plenty of tunes, particularly from the "what we did on our holidays" era, not represented elsewhere.
― milkshake duck george bernard shaw (rushomancy), Sunday, 9 September 2018 17:24 (five years ago) link
yeah, most of their first ten albums have been re-released on CD at least twice with bonus tracks and sometimes entire extra discs. there are a lot of good bonus tracks!
― com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Sunday, 9 September 2018 17:26 (five years ago) link
Do wish there was more stuff avaialble from them live from the Thompson years. NOt sure how Live the BBC sessions are, assume they are far more one-take than an official studio set would be.BUt hearing things like the Bouton Rouge set and the stories about Thompson jamming with Hendrix and his endless invention and ability to improvise just means would be so great to have concrete evidence.
― Stevolende, Sunday, 9 September 2018 17:38 (five years ago) link
I think I'll go for the individual releases. Don't want to buy stuff twice or search for digital files if I really like the albums.
And thanks for the tip on Heyday.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 9 September 2018 18:28 (five years ago) link
https://routepublishing.wordpress.com/tag/what-we-did-instead-of-holidays/
new Clinton Heylin book on the extended fairports family. & the offshoots of at least the original line up.Not sure if Trader Horne are covered since not seeing any mention but some of their stuff at least is good.
― Stevolende, Monday, 22 October 2018 17:06 (five years ago) link
The original one-disc xp Heyday is really cool, despite scruffy sound quality, which can often also be found on my studio LPs and CDs of Fairport and 70s Richard & Linda.Haven't heard Tree With Roots yet, though it's waiting patiently on Spotify: seems like a handy round-up of all(?) prev. released Dylan covers, from FC, Fotheringay, and Denny solo LPs. Track list[ etc:https://www.folkradio.co.uk/2018/06/a-tree-with-roots-fairport-convention-and-the-songs-of-bob-dylan/
― dow, Monday, 22 October 2018 18:03 (five years ago) link
I am v. excited to read that Heylin book but what is up with that awful title?
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 22 October 2018 19:05 (five years ago) link
I drove out to Farley House the other day, where Fairport reconvened after the death of Jeannie Franklyn to record Liege & Lief. Not a huge amount to report I guess, apart from the atmosphere, which is lonely and wild (if you can have a wildness this close to civilisation. Thoreau might be the person to ask). It's in the arse end of nowhere (relatively speaking for Hampshire) surrounded by flint and chalk farmland, looking out towards some low hills and the distant docks at Southampton and the Isle of Wight beyond. Farley Mount - the high point in the surrounding landscape, topped by a dazzling white monument to 'Beware Chalk Pit' the trusty horse of the 3rd Earl of Bolingbroke - is not too far off, but not visible from the house. There is a pretty amazing church nearby - St John's at Farley Chamberlayne - one of several in the area that seem to serve no real purpose and no real community. It's totally naked in the surrounding countryside, a sanctuary from the wind and the loneliness. There was a guy sitting on a low bench as I approached; I asked if the church was open and he pulled out some earbuds from under his hood, and was clearly crying. Despite the gloom, the inside of the church is like a basin of light. I didn't tarry: I felt like I'd intruded and left quite quickly.
Some nice photos of the band at the house here: https://jennyartichoke.wordpress.com/2014/09/02/fairport-convention-farley-chamberlayne/
https://i.imgur.com/pVtg40X.jpg
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Friday, 29 October 2021 10:01 (two years ago) link
Lovely post
― maybe these baps are legends (Noodle Vague), Friday, 29 October 2021 10:02 (two years ago) link
^^^
― Hannibal Lecture (PBKR), Friday, 29 October 2021 11:35 (two years ago) link
― Communist Hockey Goblin (sleeve), Friday, 29 October 2021 15:08 (two years ago) link
<3
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Friday, 29 October 2021 15:21 (two years ago) link
also hampshire has all the best village names
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Friday, 29 October 2021 15:23 (two years ago) link
Not while there’s Dorset, it doesn’t. (Lovely post, Chinaski.)
― Tim, Friday, 29 October 2021 15:44 (two years ago) link
okay at the risk of complete thread derail, these are my top thirty hampshire place names:
CowplainCrampmoorCrowCrux EastonDeadwaterDummerEnham AlameinFarleigh WallopFox AmportFreefolkFrogmoreFuntleyGolden PotGore EndLittle AnnMartyr WorthyMislingfordMockbeggarNately ScuresOliver's BatteryPicket TwentyQuidhamptonRagged AppleshawRed RiceSheetTiptoeTickleyUp NatelyViablesWorlds End
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Friday, 29 October 2021 16:01 (two years ago) link
bollocks i forgot Firgo
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Friday, 29 October 2021 16:03 (two years ago) link
Compton Pauncefoot still the top of the charts though.
― Tim, Friday, 29 October 2021 16:31 (two years ago) link
(Ah no it turns out that’s in Somerset. So is Queen Camel.)
― Tim, Friday, 29 October 2021 16:34 (two years ago) link
Hehehe. When I write my noir novel, my nom de plume will be Farley Chamberlayne. Or Compton Pauncefoot. Or Purbeck Incline.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Friday, 29 October 2021 18:13 (two years ago) link