Goldfrapp Seventh Tree

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This album sounds like Joan Osborne and Superstition-era Siousie And The Banshees and Primitive Radio Gods and I ain't complaining.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 22 February 2008 04:00 (nine years ago) Permalink

I've got a feel I'd like this more than either of the last two. The robo-glam thing didn't really do it for me.

Matt DC, Friday, 22 February 2008 09:24 (nine years ago) Permalink

Me neither. For me Felt Mountain represented the kind of thing that Goldfrapp do best and I'm glad they've both returned to and advanced that template. The new one is largely tremendous.

Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 22 February 2008 10:04 (nine years ago) Permalink

this is probably my least favourite LP they've done but still liking it OK

blueski, Friday, 22 February 2008 14:52 (nine years ago) Permalink

Top three: Clowns, Road to Somewhere, Some People.

chap, Friday, 22 February 2008 16:05 (nine years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Picked it up for ten bucks yesterday on the back of the lavish praise being heaped all over it. I loved Felt Mountan and Black Cherry, but this is just ummmm....... well, if I want to hear Kate Bush, I'll listen to Kate Bush.

Alex in NYC, Saturday, 8 March 2008 15:52 (nine years ago) Permalink

I got the album on Monday, it's taking me a while to get into it. "Happiness" and "A&E" are my favourite tracks at the moment. I'm hearing parallels with The Kinks' "...Are The Village Green Preservation Society" album, which I picked up at the same time.

snoball, Saturday, 8 March 2008 16:15 (nine years ago) Permalink

Like Clowns. Is very Felt Mountain redux, the rest of it.

stet, Saturday, 8 March 2008 17:26 (nine years ago) Permalink

I think that FM is more "cold"/winter, while ST is more "warm"/summer/autumn, if that makes any sense.

snoball, Saturday, 8 March 2008 18:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

I dug this out again today for no apparent reason other than I had Happiness stuck in my head.

It's funny, I utterly *HATED* this when it first came out, didn't give it more than a cursory listen before filing it and Goldfrapp under "meh lost it" (Thing is, I *liked* the robo-glam stuff I know that everyone else hated.)

But this album has its charms, though it took me a while to find them. It makes me feel a bit "Grown Up" to listen to it. But at my age, that's not necessarily a bad thing. Maybe.

Evren Kader (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 9 September 2009 17:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

i thought the robo-glam stuff was what everyone loved? the black cherry stuff, though probably less so the next album, which was a bit of a retread.

k8, did you ever hear the beth gibbons & rustin man album, out of season? think you'd love it anyway, but especially if you like this.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 9 September 2009 17:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

No, I meant to buy that Beth Gibbons thing, but it came out when I was unemployed and I missed it (like a lot of stuff).

I always thought everyone hated the robo-glam stuff - I can remember my bandmate HATING on Strict Machine and the like when Black Cherry came out saying the album was no good.

This album has a lot of atmospherics that I missed the first time around. Perhaps it's a headphones album, really.

Evren Kader (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 9 September 2009 17:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

i picked the album up after all the fuss had died down, and fell for its subtle charms.
and despite the fact i loved the robo-glam stuff, i think i have listened to this album more.

mark e, Wednesday, 9 September 2009 17:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

i can imagine hating the robo-glam stuff if you had any real attachment to their debut, which was v pastoral and blissed-out - i liked it but had no investment in them staying the same, plus "strict machine" was just such a huge club jam at the time.

seriously, the more i think about it the more i think you'll adore the beth gibbons album, k8.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 9 September 2009 17:37 (eight years ago) Permalink

Perhaps it's a headphones album

It definately is, I can't imagine listening to it any other way. I bought this album when it first came out, played it quite a bit, but after a month or so filed it away. I have listened to it about as much as Black Cherry though.

the visible spectrum is rainbows (snoball), Wednesday, 9 September 2009 17:39 (eight years ago) Permalink

I am realising, unfortunately, that I am getting too old for club jams and dance floors and the like. :-(

Black Cherry was just the ultimate SEXY SEXXXYYY SEEEEXXXXXX album as far as I'm concerned, it just oozes sexuality. Seventh Tree is so... almost prim.

I didn't think ST sounded like FM at all - and hey, Lex, how can you take the Quirkiness of FM? Or was that why you didn't have any attachment to it? This is much more heart-on-sleeve kind of stuff. It is almost 70s AOR at times, like the WUB has been burried, but although on first listen I thought the wub had gone, it is still there, underneath the texture as opposed to defining it.

Evren Kader (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 9 September 2009 17:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

is stuff like "utopia" really that Quirky though? there were some really great sounds and moods on felt machine, i thought, though yeah i only ever go back to "utopia" and "human" now.

alison goldfrapp's Quirkiness has never bothered me because, i think, she doesn't enunciate - she sort of mumbles, half to herself. it makes it less of a look-at-me pose. which isn't to say she hasn't annoyed me for other reasons at times - she's very good at nailing an aesthetic so well on one or two tracks that if she repeats it, it feels like a paler imitation of what she's already done.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 9 September 2009 17:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

seriously, the more i think about it the more i think you'll adore the beth gibbons album, k8.

lex is right.
the 'rustin man' album is very late night/mellow/autumnal and is pretty easy to find these days.
its often on the fopp cheap shelves.

mark e, Wednesday, 9 September 2009 17:49 (eight years ago) Permalink

I think there's a lot of that kind of deliberate off the wall fairytale quirkiness on FM, but somehow it's not as offensive as the quirk you hate, Lex.

I was thinking about this, trying to figure out exactly what distinguishes the good from the bad - I used to think that it was whether it seemed "natural" or "forced" - whether it's put on like a drama student pose or "just the way someone is". But that isn't it at all - because you take something like Fever Ray that is theatrical as all hell, but it's still wonderful.

Maybe it's what we were saying on twitter the other day about doors that stay closed. Someone said on another thread about Florence &TM, that there always seemed to be a moment where she took a bow at the end, with a girlish giggle, admitting it to be an act. What you thought to be doors are revealed to be painted scenery.

While with something like Felt Mountain, and with Fever Ray, there are doors that open immediately, revealing wonderful vistas, and doors that you have to hear the music several times to notice that they are even there. And some doors that never, ever open, no matter how many times you stand at them. That sense of genuine mystery, a kind of genuine otherworldliness that goes beyond the school of Quirk "ooh, look at me, I'm so out there." The latter is like an affectation that screams OOH LOOK AT THIS WEIRD THING while the former is a weird thing sitting in the corner of the room like it's almost just been discarded there, and it's not explained, and *certainly* not drawn attention to, it's just this inexplicable thing, but without which the room would not be complete.

Evren Kader (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 9 September 2009 20:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

Nope, sorry, listened to a couple of Beth Gibbons/Rustin Man tracks and it was just... no. Too too smokey jazz cafe cigarettes black turtlenecks berets jaaazzzzzz no no no. Not feeling it.

Evren Kader (Masonic Boom), Thursday, 10 September 2009 09:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

There's just something so... lounge singer about it, and I really can't stand that.

Evren Kader (Masonic Boom), Thursday, 10 September 2009 09:32 (eight years ago) Permalink

so .. lounge singer

on mogadon perhaps.

fair enough. it does take a certain mood.

mark e, Thursday, 10 September 2009 09:38 (eight years ago) Permalink

I've never really wanted to go back to this album, a lot of it feels a bit clunky, but Clowns is incredible and by some distance the best thing she's ever done. Then again I hated the electro-robo-glam Goldfrapp.

Tuncay Stryder (Matt DC), Thursday, 10 September 2009 09:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'm playing catch-up at the moment and have moved onto Portishead's Third now. Ha ha, see if you can spot the pattern.

Evren Kader (Masonic Boom), Thursday, 10 September 2009 09:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

I've no fetish for the jazz trappings that your picking up on that Beth Gibbons record either really, Kate. The quality of her voice though, is just so sad and mournful that it transcends that lounge thing for me. Or rather, it drops through the bottom of the genre into this whole other void.

Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Thursday, 10 September 2009 09:45 (eight years ago) Permalink

"Songs that go CLUNNNNGGGGE bip."

Mark G, Thursday, 10 September 2009 09:46 (eight years ago) Permalink

There's something about that mournful, wavering quality to Gibbon's voice that has always bothered me. There's something that sounds so weak and clinging (in personality not in sound) about it that I just can't relate.

It's funny, because even though Goldfrapp often works the same kind of territory (that fragile little girl whispiness) there's a fundamental strength and vibrancy to her voice that makes her work more rich and appealing to me.

But this may entirely be projection based on image, I admit. Goldfrapp's voice seems like it would sink a bolt of brandy and pick itself up and go on, while Gibbons' voice, you kind of just want to give it a slap and tell it to snap out of it.

(But I admit this may be related to the depression I've just had to claw myself out of as much as the music itself.)

Evren Kader (Masonic Boom), Thursday, 10 September 2009 09:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

completely indifferent to this album - robo stuff was OK but nothing beats the lonely spy vibe of Felt Mountain

spiny doughboy (baaderonixx), Thursday, 10 September 2009 09:51 (eight years ago) Permalink

Goldfrapp's voice seems like it would sink a bolt of brandy and pick itself up and go on, while Gibbons' voice, you kind of just want to give it a slap and tell it to snap out of it.

Hmm, I know what you're saying, and I partly agree, but I have a totally opposite emotional response to it. Goldfrapp sounds like she's just playing with each genre and it's kind of fun to pick apart the influences etc, but that's as involved as I get. Gibbons does what she does cos she's got no fucking choice and that really resonates with me.

Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Thursday, 10 September 2009 10:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

I can hear my mother's therapist echoing in my ear "You have a choice. You always have a choice." I'm just sick of the sound of weeping women, you know?

Anyway, it's ALL ABOUT the moment in Little Bird about 2.40 where the looping melotron goes all psychedelic and the drums kick in with the bassline and she starts singing JULY LIE LIE LIEE LAAA LAAAA LAA and extemporising the riff and I get shivers down my spine and want to throw my head back and dance about a maypole or something.

It's like they took one of those fake Chemical Bros Beatles riffs and turned it inside out and made it amazing.

Evren Kader (Masonic Boom), Thursday, 10 September 2009 10:11 (eight years ago) Permalink

(And it's funny, I've spent so much time listening to the BTWS remix of Happiness that it's weird to hear the original and realise that it's not actually about happiness at all, really - it's about being sucked into a Cult!)

Evren Kader (Masonic Boom), Thursday, 10 September 2009 10:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

Clowns is the only song from this that I ever feel compelled to listen to.

chap, Thursday, 10 September 2009 13:03 (eight years ago) Permalink

I kind of agree with this: "it makes me feel a bit "Grown Up" to listen to it". There would have been a time when I'd have been unable to listen to it. It sounded nice this morning, accompanying the walk up the lane to the bus stop ...

djh, Thursday, 10 September 2009 17:06 (eight years ago) Permalink

The song that sounds most like Felt Mountain here is "Cologne Cerrone Houdini" and it is spectacular. I'm surprised it doesn't get more mentions.

LeRooLeRoo, Friday, 11 September 2009 03:40 (eight years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

Completely agree that it's a "grown up" album, but it's aged remarkably well.

Vini Reilly Invasion (Elvis Telecom), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 00:37 (five years ago) Permalink

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