#1 favorite wu-tang member

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2008?

StanM, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 08:22 (sixteen years ago) link

No Cappadonna?

I think there's a difference between Wu-Tangers as group members and as solo artists. Some of them, like Deck or Ghost, fit really well into the group dynamic and have great verses on the Clan albums, but are kinda hard to take for the duration of a whole solo album.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 12:38 (sixteen years ago) link

RONG

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 12:41 (sixteen years ago) link

I know many will disagree, but I find Ghost's voice, flow, and lyrics to get kinda tiresome if I have to listen to him for 60+ minutes.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 12:48 (sixteen years ago) link

i've always kinda thought GZA was the most overrated. obv Liquid Swords rules but a lot of the best moments are down to RZA & the guests, and he just seems like the most humourless of the bunch? i mean fine he's 'the genius' but does that have to mean he can't crack a joke from time to time?

gza's deadpan but he doesn't lack humor (maybe you're confusing him with killah priest ZING). in retrospect liquid swords got a lot of props, so gza's not as underrated as he used to be. deck and u-god are lifetime holders of that title. overrated? when he effortlessly drops hall-of-fame rhymes like this it's not possible:

doin' artists in like cain did abel
now they money's gettin' stuck to the gum under the table


he's not as wild as the others but the depth and craft in his lyrics is something else.

Edward III, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 14:00 (sixteen years ago) link

U-God for sheer weirdness alone

braveclub, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 14:04 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm still deciding, but I think it'll come down to either GZA or Ghost.

Oilyrags, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 14:25 (sixteen years ago) link

unsurprisingly ODB for me. (this is favorite, not most talented, right?)

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 14:27 (sixteen years ago) link

RZA, for accent, will, soundscape. deck is most underrated. GZA is corniest.

gabbneb, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 14:29 (sixteen years ago) link

and randomness without clowning

gabbneb, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 14:30 (sixteen years ago) link

GZA and Ghost have those great narratives, though. I'm not denying GZA's occassional wordplay overdose eyeroller of a track, but occassionally listening to those guys is like reading a Parker novel or something.

Oilyrags, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 14:32 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah, i don't like narrative tho

gabbneb, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 14:33 (sixteen years ago) link

ghost in a pinch.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 14:35 (sixteen years ago) link

1 for meth.

bell_labs, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 14:36 (sixteen years ago) link

unlike U-God who seems so grateful on the rare occasion that he's in the spotlight that he gets all excited and goes hell-for-leather.

I don't agree that GZA takes it for granted/is too chill, but I'd agree with this statement wholeheartedly. The "raw like cocaine straight from Bolivia" verse is one of the best by anybody on 36 Chambers, and he rocks all over "Gravel Pit" and "Pinky Ring."

Deck has elsewhere on ILM been tagged "the greatest one-verse MC ever" which I find sadly true from the solo tracks I've checked out - I like them, but as Tuomas says about Ghostface, I can't really imagine 60 minutes of him front and center. GZA, Meth, no problem. But he makes "Triumph" and "Protect Ya Neck" as we all know, and, of course "7th Chamber" which gives us probably my favorite Wu snippet this side of "4th Chamber":

Yo, I leave the mic in body bags, my rap style has
the force to leave you lost like the tribe of Shabazz
Murderous material made by a madman
it's the mic wrecker, Inspectah, bad man


RZA's at a disadvantage here because half his contribution is in the production, which is pretty much fantastic across the board. When he's compared as an MC, he isn't quite in the top league - he has a bunch of great verses but also a number of kind of impenetrable wack things.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 15:05 (sixteen years ago) link

impenetrable wack is what makes him good!

gabbneb, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 15:08 (sixteen years ago) link

7th chamber is the realest song on enter the wu

and what, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 15:20 (sixteen years ago) link

i like the remix

deej, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 15:24 (sixteen years ago) link

or 'part ii' or whatever its called

deej, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 15:25 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah thats what i was talking about, what those deck rhymes are from

and what, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 15:39 (sixteen years ago) link

RZA for me. Every time he mentions the applehead he makes the track.

No homo.

paulhw, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 17:23 (sixteen years ago) link

rza then odb then ghost then meth then gza

forksclovetofu, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 20:28 (sixteen years ago) link

raekwon

am0n, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 21:16 (sixteen years ago) link

dr morbius

latebloomer, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 21:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Not even the "best," but these days my favorite is RZA easy. Specifically for his blunted delivery and verses on...

4th Chamber:
Aiyyo, camouflage chameleon - ninjas scalin your buildin
No time to grab the gun they already got your wife and children...


Assassination Day:
You can never master, it's invincible, Wu-Tang indispensable
One nation under God, indivisible
With liberty and justice, the mic is in my clutches
Thugs who bring ruckus, leave in crutches


Reunited:
Wu-Tang Incorp. take your brain on spacewalk
Talk strange like B-jork, great hero Jim Thorpe
How can I put it? Life is like video footage
Hard to edit, directors, they never understood it
...
Grow like a fetus with no hands and feet to complete us
and we return like Jesus, when the whole world need us


PS - His own solo stuff aside, Meth's the most consistent and really ought to win this thing - almost never less than great, and often brilliant. He pretty much holds Forever together. And his verse on Radioactive is sublime...

It ain't all to the good, muh'fuckers hatin in the hood
Gotta a hundred wolves waitin in the woods
for the Clan's forthcomin'
I miss you in the game a court summons
And fugitives of rap caught runnin, y'all get locked up
E'rything was wack 'til we popped up
And got it on and poppin like Orville Reddenbacher
Podnuh, you ain't got no wins in mi casa
Wu-Tang got ya, like every ghetto got a Tasha
Request lines are now open, you see these MC's chokin
and thinkin, "What's that SHIT they be smokin?"
I'm so focused, simple chronic halitosis
Keep my shit funky when I spit this braggadocious
[hach, spit] Y'all niggaz got some fuckin nerve
to critic what I write, that's my muh'fuckin word
Blah blah blah, like N'Sync
Kiss that ass "Bye Bye Bye" knahmsayin? I ain't playin...


U-God and Masta Killa are probably the most underrated.

rogermexico., Wednesday, 16 May 2007 23:10 (sixteen years ago) link

gza - some of the best flows on 36 chambers and liquid swords is just brilliant

gman, Thursday, 17 May 2007 03:57 (sixteen years ago) link

This is too damn hard. I've managed to narrow it down to GZA & Ghost, but.......

The Reverend, Thursday, 17 May 2007 04:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Voted Gza cause the guy tried to steal my spaghetti during an interview.

MaGoGo, Thursday, 17 May 2007 15:32 (sixteen years ago) link

POLL closes: May 05

2008?

-- StanM, Wednesday, May 16, 2007 4:22 AM (1 week ago)

Poll Closing Date: Monday, May 4, 2020 7:00 PM

am0n, Monday, 28 May 2007 22:40 (sixteen years ago) link

sweet.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 28 May 2007 22:47 (sixteen years ago) link

i wish i could go back and vote for rza

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 28 May 2007 22:48 (sixteen years ago) link

if only people hadn't posted who they voted for, so we could dig up the time capsule in 13 years and be surprised by the results

bernard snowy, Monday, 28 May 2007 22:58 (sixteen years ago) link

if only people hadn't posted who they voted for, so we could dig up the time capsule in 13 years and be surprised by the results

in the future, u-god will be the most highly praised wu-tanger ...

... or, with a greater probability, method man will be the most highly praised wu-tanger and 13 years from now folks will be shocked that he got so little love back in the day.

Eisbaer, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 03:19 (sixteen years ago) link

U-God is awful. His verses are almost uniformly bad, IMHO.

RZA is a great lyricist and his beats (at least before 2000), are amazing.
GZA's verses are the most cerebral.
Inspectah Deck is a hugely underrated lyricist, and while he's not charismatic enough to handle a track alone, he always makes a track better (BTW, check his verse on "Let My Niggas Live"-- it's badass)
Ghostface is the most stream-of-consciousness and in many ways the most surreal lyricist.
ODB... well, you gotta love ODB.
I don't really care for Meth all that much. His style doesn't really fit in with the other members in my opinion.

Richard Wood Johnson, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:24 (sixteen years ago) link

you sound like a valuable new poster

deej, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:32 (sixteen years ago) link

i voted for Ghostface, although maybe i should have voted GZA. for year, Beneath the Surface was the only wu-tang album i owned.

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poortheatre, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:34 (sixteen years ago) link

i voted gza.

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:36 (sixteen years ago) link

i voted for meth, in the end.

jabba hands, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 01:37 (sixteen years ago) link

ODB

"WU-TANG IS FOR THE CHILDREN!"

j-rock, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 01:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Insightful, "Wood" Johnson!

xposts

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 01:53 (sixteen years ago) link

It's gotta be the Genius!

Davey D, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 02:41 (sixteen years ago) link

eight years pass...

Best to worst:

Ghost
Rae
GZA
Deck
Mef
ODB
RZA
Masta Killa
Cappadonna
U-God

Voted Ghost

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Friday, 11 December 2015 20:23 (eight years ago) link

looks like I already voted in this one...

I'm guessing it was for Raekwon

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Friday, 11 December 2015 20:28 (eight years ago) link

only 5 years to go!

Ghostface no contest

Οὖτις, Friday, 11 December 2015 20:28 (eight years ago) link

betting my food stamps on ODB!

rip van wanko, Friday, 11 December 2015 20:30 (eight years ago) link

ghost

marcos, Friday, 11 December 2015 20:38 (eight years ago) link

GZA is corniest.

― gabbneb, Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:29 AM (8 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the fuck

marcos, Friday, 11 December 2015 20:39 (eight years ago) link

gza possibly least corny out of this whole group jfc

marcos, Friday, 11 December 2015 20:44 (eight years ago) link

oh god lets not have that debate again...

flopson, Friday, 11 December 2015 21:08 (eight years ago) link

http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/cook/chef-2.gif

lute bro (brimstead), Friday, 11 December 2015 21:13 (eight years ago) link

RZA and U-God the only ones I don't own solo albums by

genital giant (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 00:06 (three years ago) link

Only 285 votes in all? Man, this place is tinier than I thought.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 00:06 (three years ago) link

Confession: there were a number of years there where votes weren't being saved properly between server reboots and we've moved server about five times since this poll began so maybe better you just talk it out who is actually best

stet, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 00:20 (three years ago) link

Poll rerun needed, finishing in 2033

all things must pasteurize (Matt #2), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 00:24 (three years ago) link

Don't tempt me…

pomenitul, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 00:25 (three years ago) link

Confession: there were a number of years there where votes weren't being saved properly between server reboots and we've moved server about five times since this poll began so maybe better you just talk it out who is actually best

"Right speech means abstention ... from ... talk that may bring about hatred, enmity, disunity, and disharmony among individuals or groups of people"

lukas, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 00:47 (three years ago) link

anyway

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IiY38pUOBo

lukas, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 00:48 (three years ago) link

pretty sure most of the votes i cast over the years were rza, gza and deck, so obviously these results are fatally tainted by the server resets and lose all legitimacy

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 02:23 (three years ago) link

Nice distribution of points, although pretty impressed at how much Ghostface crushed it. His stock has gone way up over the past 15 or so years.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 03:51 (three years ago) link

partially because of how prolific he's been, and how consistently listenable-to-good most of his releases were, even if he's treaded water for a while. not that this is why people voted for him, but he has never really stopped chugging along. Raekwon probably the closest in terms of releases and quality control.

genital giant (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 04:00 (three years ago) link

how did U-God beat Masta Killa

genital giant (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 04:00 (three years ago) link

on the basis of "raw, I'ma give it to ya, with no trivia..." verse?

genital giant (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 04:01 (three years ago) link

Ghostface is the only one where I accrued lots and lots of solo/collab records, almost all being decent investments. Have no idea whether I voted though!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 04:17 (three years ago) link

Love some u-god verses like on the completely bonkers Chercez LaGhost + Uzi, It’s Yourz, Chessboxin, Pinky Ring, Black Jesus, Click Click. Has way more classics than masta but masta gets credit for releasing a couple solid post wu prime solo albums.

Spottie, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 06:04 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

so this is a nerd question but my wife was listening to a rza interview about his ice cream jingle and apropos of nothing he started raving about how much he fucking loves the mellotron

does anybody know any releases where rza uses the mellotron

planet mellotron is no use because the guy who runs that site is gatekeepy and doesn't count sampled mellotron, you know how gear nerds get

Kate (rushomancy), Saturday, 15 August 2020 15:21 (three years ago) link

after all these years i think i miss the humble
and amiable u god the most

the late great, Saturday, 15 August 2020 17:40 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ed_n6r66v8

+ iirc, You Can't Stop Me Now? or some other late aughts Bobby Digital joints, i know there's more

xp

gaudio, Saturday, 15 August 2020 18:53 (three years ago) link

thanks! cool jam, i'm not 100% sure that's _actually_ a tron, feel like it could be some willie mitchell strings? but it's a great song and it does _sound_ a lot like tron.

Kate (rushomancy), Saturday, 15 August 2020 20:32 (three years ago) link


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