defend the indefensible: "we are the world"

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I would love to have seen a faceoff between Prince and, I dunno, Daryl Hall.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 24 June 2005 13:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Wasn't the story that everybody had to clear out of the room when it was Michael's turn to sing. And wasn't his voice treated to an extra sugar-coating of echo and reverb that folks like, say, Huey Lewis were not augmented with?

Michael Jackson......PRETENTIOUS, PRIMA DONNA ASSHOLE!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 24 June 2005 13:51 (eighteen years ago) link

All the sugarcoating and echo and reverb couldn't have saved Dylan's vocal.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 24 June 2005 13:54 (eighteen years ago) link

When I make a toast, regardless of the situation, I toast only to "life, the greatest gift of all." It never fails that someone will come up to me later and say he was greatly moved by the sentiment.

Aaron A., Friday, 24 June 2005 13:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Ugh.

PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Friday, 24 June 2005 13:58 (eighteen years ago) link

the term "check your egos at the door" is kind of mildly funny, I guess.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 24 June 2005 13:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Always thought Dylan sounded worryingly similar to Eddie Murphy's Buckwheat impersonation on this track.

Most cringe-worthy moment: Cyndi Lauper's unsolicited "aye-yai-yee-yai-yah!" melismatic vocal fart after her slavishly oversung verse.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 24 June 2005 14:02 (eighteen years ago) link

I want to karaoke this bitch SO BAD.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 24 June 2005 14:03 (eighteen years ago) link

The lyrics aren't *that* bad. Corny, yes. Overwrought, yes. But the simple "all you need is love" message is delivered fairly well.

OTOH, the lyrics to "Do They Know It's Christmas" always creeped me out:

Where the only water flowing
is the bitter sting of tears
And the Christmas bells that ring there
are the clanging chimes of doom

... that's some seriously bone-chilling stuff. "Clanging chimes of doom"? On a charity record?

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 24 June 2005 14:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Goddamn Alex, O. T. M., on both counts.

PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Friday, 24 June 2005 14:29 (eighteen years ago) link

I actually like DJ Koze's cover of this song!

The video is yes, a nice period piece.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 24 June 2005 15:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Cyndi's charming in the song – one of the few performers whose schtick injects some much-needed humanity instead of HUMANITY.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 24 June 2005 15:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Cyndi's performance in this song immediately made me want her to be bludgeoned with a menhir.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 24 June 2005 15:33 (eighteen years ago) link

http://members.aol.com/PeSchmit/Obelix/Obelix2.gif

"These NYCians are crazy!"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 24 June 2005 15:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes but you're a gigantic curmudgeon who wants to bludgeon everything, Alex.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 24 June 2005 15:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Not always with menhirs, though, Daniel. An important distinction.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 24 June 2005 15:38 (eighteen years ago) link

I had to look up the word "menhir" ... yes, bludgeoning by menhir sounds painful.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 24 June 2005 15:59 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.mnha.public.lu/pictures/fr/collections/prehistoire/FicheStandard/menhir.jpg

A menhir....yesterday.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 24 June 2005 16:48 (eighteen years ago) link

A menhir delivery man.

http://heim.ifi.uio.no/~janl/ts/obelix.gif

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 24 June 2005 16:48 (eighteen years ago) link

I was such a dork as a kid that I had a big We Are The World poster of the group shot on my bedroom wall...I think it had a little legend with all the names of the people.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 24 June 2005 16:53 (eighteen years ago) link

I only like it because it's one of the only records my grandparents used to let us play as kids on a broken old player they'd dug out the attic to save their good records being destroyed. So I like it for nostalgic reasons only.

dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 24 June 2005 17:43 (eighteen years ago) link

There should be a giant hailstorm of menhirs to blight you all.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 24 June 2005 17:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Ray Charles fucking OWNS on this. Dylan and Lauper are great, too. It's a really lousy song and a shitty record but it has a handful of killer performances on it. Not enough to redeem it, obv., but I prefer those flashes to the overall blandess of "Do They Know It's Christmas."

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 24 June 2005 17:53 (eighteen years ago) link

B-b-but I waited my entire twelve-year life to hear that duet between Kenny Rogers and Al Jarreau!

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 24 June 2005 17:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Last time I watched this video (on the Live Aid DVD) I teared up when I heard Charles' vocal, especially the second time he sings "There's a choice we're makin'..."; he fucking TEARS into it.

However, Dylan sucks!

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 24 June 2005 18:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Good Lord, "Do They Know it's Christmas" postively shits all over "We Are the World" in a brown torrent of tannembaum-shaped charity turds.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 24 June 2005 18:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Don't you know that turds are not enough?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 24 June 2005 18:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Supposedly Dylan couldn't figure out how to sing it until Stevie Wonder demonstrated in full-on DYLAN mode.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Friday, 24 June 2005 18:11 (eighteen years ago) link

BTW, ick.

xpost

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Friday, 24 June 2005 18:11 (eighteen years ago) link

a brown torrent of tannembaum-shaped charity turds.

that would take one precise sphincter!

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 24 June 2005 18:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Supposedly Dylan couldn't figure out how to sing it


And it shows.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 24 June 2005 18:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Paul Young and Boy George came off best.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 24 June 2005 18:20 (eighteen years ago) link

If it hadn't been made then a lot of food and money wouldn't have been raised. For that alone, I don't find it bad.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Friday, 24 June 2005 18:37 (eighteen years ago) link

It might've raised a whole lot more had it not been so fucking bad.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 24 June 2005 18:51 (eighteen years ago) link

(sorry, that's an admittedly lame argument)

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 24 June 2005 18:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Don't you know that turds are not enough?

YES! David Foster just dropped dead and rolled over in his grave.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 24 June 2005 18:58 (eighteen years ago) link

It might've raised a whole lot more had it not been so fucking bad.

True, but charity songs are, as a rule, complete shit.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Friday, 24 June 2005 19:00 (eighteen years ago) link

YES! David Foster just dropped dead and rolled over in his grave.

I knew the Canadians would get the reference.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 24 June 2005 19:15 (eighteen years ago) link

four years pass...

i just heard "voices that care" for the first time and jesus christ i don't think i'll ever even joke about "we are the world" being a bad song again.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 31 July 2009 02:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Haha -- I had an argument with a former Stylus colleague who insists that "Sun City" is better than WATW; he was beguiled by Arthur Baker and Hipster Quotient (nice moniker, that).

Heric E. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 July 2009 02:43 (fourteen years ago) link

If you have the time to watch this 10 parts thing, I recommend you do : it's solid gold 80s !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GA5NvqGg0s

AleXTC, Friday, 31 July 2009 11:23 (fourteen years ago) link

haha I remember LOVING "Sun City" at the time

Four-TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN! (HI DERE), Friday, 31 July 2009 13:28 (fourteen years ago) link

prefer voices that care to w.a.t.w and "stars" to either

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZktrrqT1A0

Trey Tsongas (J0hn D.), Friday, 31 July 2009 13:50 (fourteen years ago) link

it has a nice (lovely at times) melody.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 31 July 2009 13:53 (fourteen years ago) link

plus it generated a lot of money for charity.

also, bob geldofy and bono werent involved.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 31 July 2009 13:54 (fourteen years ago) link

*geldof

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 31 July 2009 13:54 (fourteen years ago) link

btw if you watch that stars video with the sound down on the player & forrest fang's new album playing instead, life becomes awesome

Trey Tsongas (J0hn D.), Friday, 31 July 2009 14:02 (fourteen years ago) link

You know, the most obvious defence for this song is that it helped save the lives of a lot of starving people in Ethiopia, which is - well.... - not the worst thing a song can do, really...

Besides, it isn't all that bad as a song either - even though the lyrics are indefensible forever and ever.

Geir Hongro, Friday, 31 July 2009 14:32 (fourteen years ago) link

man i need to poll this

tulsa anti-juggalo league (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 31 July 2009 15:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Ugh. Absolutely without merit. Typically American. We lift the idea from Band And, and then blow it way out of proportion ("the day rock cried" my ass). Plus, it's a horrible, overwrought, lyrically meaningless piece of shit song. Fuck everyone involved.

It was true then and it's still true today.

Alex in NYC, Friday, 31 July 2009 18:50 (fourteen years ago) link

This was less than a year after Ghostbusters (at the time the-highest-grossing comedy ever) so that would explain it.

birdistheword, Sunday, 25 February 2024 07:45 (one month ago) link

Here’s what he said in 2009 (it doesn’t make much sense):

Speaking of iconic images, you were in the ensemble for the Live Aid, "We Are the World video." How did you snag that gig?

Totally by accident. My father and I were interviewing business managers in LA and we walked into this office of a talent manager, and realized we were in the wrong place. I was looking for a money manager, not a talent manager. I had managed myself at that time and always have. But he said, so long as you are here, would you like to come and join this "We are the World" thing.

I thought how do I fit in here? Well, we did sell a few million records with the Blues Brothers and in my other persona I am a musician, so I showed up and was a part of it but it was totally by accident.

Sony's Sports Walkman Universe (morrisp), Sunday, 25 February 2024 16:03 (one month ago) link

I bet he (and a few others there) fit in more than a few lines.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 25 February 2024 16:08 (one month ago) link

Snarf.

The person who was there who I was looking for in the doc but didn't immediately see, and was kinda wondering if they would get as a talking head but didn't? Garry Trudeau. Really. Remember seeing news about it at the time (and he coordinated a comics-related effort later in the year), and per this thread, a run of strips resulted some time after the session:

1. Doonesbury cartoonist Garry Trudeau was allowed to witness the "We Are the World" recording sessions that produced the 1985 megahit to aid famine relief in Africa. Producer Quincy Jones corralled 45 pop stars into the studio, insisting everyone check their egos at the door.

— Mark Stryker (@Mark_Stryker) June 13, 2021

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 25 February 2024 16:19 (one month ago) link

And in case you're wondering if this is some weird urban legend, nope -- from a Chicago Tribune story in March 1985.

Although most of the musicians` guests watched the proceedings via a live video feed to A&M`s Chaplin Stage next door, there was one nonmusician in the recording studio. ”Doonesbury” creator Garry Trudeau spent the night in the studio watching and sketching, with the result being two weeks of USA for Africa-related ”Doonesbury” cartoons.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 25 February 2024 16:23 (one month ago) link

we still need a 10-episode expose into this thing...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un3TmvzoVYM

scott seward, Monday, 26 February 2024 13:32 (one month ago) link

The Milli Vanilli guy was clearly lip-syncing.

henry s, Monday, 26 February 2024 13:41 (one month ago) link

That one had a Chumbawumba parody

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDRG2s9GC_E

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 26 February 2024 14:59 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

I realize these clips were available for years, and also were only shown in a truncated form in the latest documentary, but ever since watching it I can't get Bob Dylan's goofy rendition of "it's a choice we're making, we're saving our own lies, it's true we'll make a better day, just you and me".

it just sounds Randy Newman singing it and getting punched while he farted

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 March 2024 18:57 (one month ago) link

*lives

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 March 2024 18:57 (one month ago) link

lol that was my generation's introduction to Bob Dylan

President Keyes, Thursday, 14 March 2024 19:01 (one month ago) link

woulda been for me if my dad didn't routinely walk around the house singing "Like a Rolling Stone" and overemphasizing the "DIDN'T YEWWWWWWWWWWWWWW".

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 March 2024 19:06 (one month ago) link

As bad as it was, Dylan would hit lower lows as the decade wore on. I can't imagine anyone turning into a Dylan fan back then based on his "new" work.

birdistheword, Friday, 15 March 2024 01:01 (one month ago) link

*raises hand* a friend who heard "Tight Connection to My Heart" was moved to hear the back catalog

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 March 2024 01:02 (one month ago) link

that "Let it Be" upthread is like a cluster bomb of wtf

assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 15 March 2024 01:49 (one month ago) link

xp That's not a bad track - had they dropped a couple of the worst songs and reinstated "New Danville Girl," that would've been a pretty good album IMHO. Also forgot the Traveling Wilburys, that's a fun album. But Knocked Out Loaded, the Hearts of Fire movie, nearly all of Down in the Groove and the live stuff with the Grateful Dead are pretty awful.

birdistheword, Friday, 15 March 2024 01:53 (one month ago) link

(Yes, "Brownsville Girl" is a different version of "New Danville Girl," and "Maybe Someday" is kind of catchy, but I still wouldn't play Knocked Out Loaded again.)

birdistheword, Friday, 15 March 2024 01:56 (one month ago) link

A new all-star charity single based on Mark Knopfler's theme to Bill Forsyth's great film Local Hero, and naturally, it's all about guitarists, not singing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_KWnAoPckk

Benefits Teenage Cancer Trust and Teen Cancer America.

The full list of contributors is: Joan Armatrading, Jeff Beck, Richard Bennett, Joe Bonamassa, Joe Brown, James Burton, Jonathan Cain, Paul Carrack, Eric Clapton, Ry Cooder, Jim Cox, Steve Cropper, Sheryl Crow, Danny Cummings, Roger Daltrey, Duane Eddy, Sam Fender, Guy Fletcher, Peter Frampton, Audley Freed, Vince Gill, David Gilmour, Buddy Guy, Keiji Haino, Tony Iommi, Joan Jett, John Jorgenson, Mark Knopfler, Sonny Landreth, Albert Lee, Greg Leisz, Alex Lifeson, Steve Lukather, Phil Manzanera, Dave Mason, Hank Marvin, Brian May, Robbie McIntosh, John McLaughlin, Tom Morello, Rick Nielsen, Orianthi, Brad Paisley, Nile Rodgers, Mike Rutherford, Joe Satriani, John Sebastian, Connor Selby, Slash, Bruce Springsteen, Ringo Starr and Zak Starkey (both on drums, of course), Sting (on bass), Andy Taylor, Susan Tedeschi and Derek Trucks, Ian Thomas, Pete Townshend, Keith Urban, Steve Vai, Waddy Wachtel.

The sleeve has been designed by pop art icon and Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band designer Peter Blake, whose collage shows all the contributors in front of Hank’s guitar store in London’s Denmark Street.

birdistheword, Friday, 15 March 2024 21:49 (one month ago) link

Might be the last thing Jeff Beck ever recorded - he opens the record.

birdistheword, Friday, 15 March 2024 21:50 (one month ago) link


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