Madonna deserves her own thread(s), and here's mine...

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More ridiculous album comparisons - 'Erotica' is what 'Diamond Dogs' could've been if DB wasn't such a genteel spineless art-school fence- sitter. (And I LIKE 'Diamond Dogs')

dave q, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Going 'deeper and deeper' - DB needed all that nose candy just to achieve that clear, pitiless, single-minded vision (music + lyrics) that Madonna just HAD. (Has?)

dave q, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Haha, I actually like Davey and haven't heard DD, so I cannot comment.

Hey Ally, if you don't mind me asking: what *is* your sign anyway ? Still have a Spice Girl appreciation-thing going on, or has that branched out into A-teens/All-Saints fandom? Just curious. ;P

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Vic, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Well, I'm a Taurus, if it matters, I don't mind sharing :)

Anyhow, I do think Dave is right and it's been something I've thought for a while: the complete disregard for Erotica does come down to, on some level, sexism. There have been loads of male rock stars who've gone as far as Madonna, but I don't see anyone raising much of an eyebrow, besides the extreme right. Madonna does it and it becomes an "issue".

As for Like a Prayer, I think that's a good point, that it's a very girly, feminine, pink-elephants-and-lemonaide type of album. It's like a musical version of a stereotypical slumber party. Erotica, on the other hand, is a very hard edge album (by Madonna standards), and as such comes off as "inappropriately" masculine. *shrugs* But I always thought that sort of traipsing back and forth between stereotypes in art was supposed to be applauded, not vilified. At least when the aforementioned David Bowie does it ;)

Ally, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

nine years pass...

revive!!!!!

geeta, Monday, 20 June 2011 00:15 (twelve years ago) link

great first paragraph there

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 20 June 2011 00:18 (twelve years ago) link

best opening post to an ilx thread ever?

it just brings you back to the basic fact that, yknow, cut through everything - god i love madonna

the smoke cloud of pure hatred (lex pretend), Monday, 20 June 2011 01:17 (twelve years ago) link

i just found some demos dave q sent me eight years ago, for an ambitious concept album he was working on based on donna summer's 'bad girls'. i wonder if he ever did any madonna covers.

geeta, Monday, 20 June 2011 02:20 (twelve years ago) link


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