Aphex Twin classic or Dud?

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great to read books with.

-- Julio Desouza (juli...), May 12th, 2003.

Julio: "Once upon a time there was a little bear named Pooh..."

SAW V.2: "Who lived in the House At Pooh Corner..."

Julio: "One day Pooh's friend Piglet came round for tea, and said to Pooh-"

SAW V.2: "'Come on you cunt let's have some of that Aphex Acid!!!!'"

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Most of his stuff is doodly nonsense..... some unlistenable, some rather good. Much of it sounds like he's making it up as he goes along.

I like doodly nonsense, I like unlistenable, I like "making it up as he goes along" - someone direct me to the doodly unlistenable shit he makes up as he's going along.

Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:09 (sixteen years ago) link

classic. for the ambient records especially. the more drum'n'bass-y ones don't do it for me quite as much, but then i'm not really into drum'n'bass. i feel like i'm on rocky territory if i start calling him a genius, as i'd feel i have to give reasons other than the beauty of the music. and that's all that matters, really.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:09 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah that's spot on nick.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:09 (sixteen years ago) link

I like those jungle inspired recs. its not all good but some amazing tracks came out of that. also search windowlicker and come to daddy singles.

I think SAW II + I think there's enuff to make a wonderful two CD 'best of'.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:13 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...
classic,and not just because i own 7 of his albums.I really do believe he is a classic if only for SAWII and "I care..."those two cd's are possibly my faveorite albums ever and underneath fall my boc albums and then the rest of my aphex twin collection.I am interested in autecher and squarepusher but I haven't gotten into them because I'm afraid i'll like them and that'll be another artist to follow and spend my money on....oh and I do like underground stuff too,donato wharton's "is that why yr still on earth" is breathtaking and makes me cry everytime i hear it...

Caleb, Tuesday, 10 August 2004 02:00 (fifteen years ago) link

"I haven't gotten into them because I'm afraid i'll like them and that'll be another artist to follow and spend my money on"

!

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 02:04 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm a fan.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 12:55 (fifteen years ago) link

"I haven't gotten into them because I'm afraid i'll like them and that'll be another artist to follow and spend my money on"

This actually makes perfect sense to me. I used to have to deal with this. (Not just because of the $ factor, but also because it takes me a long time to "absorb" new material, and I get ansy when there's stuff piling up that I'm really itching to soak up, but haven't been able to give my full attention to.)

morris pavilion (samjeff), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 15:46 (fifteen years ago) link

What's up with RDJ these days, anyway? All the big Aphex websites seem to be defunct or otherwise non-operational...

morris pavilion (samjeff), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 15:52 (fifteen years ago) link

probably getting fat and making music he will never show to anyone, ever.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 16:16 (fifteen years ago) link

He should hang out with D'Angelo.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 17:22 (fifteen years ago) link

he did a good interview with the wire a few months back. did anybody mention that?

peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 17:28 (fifteen years ago) link

I noticed that interview, but I have nowhere to buy the Wire. (And I figured it would end up eventually on the "watmm.com" website.) What did he have to say?

morris pavilion (samjeff), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 17:48 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...
what is this?

:| (....), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Anal lord, eh?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:22 (fifteen years ago) link

maybe he's picked up some new hobbies?

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 12:14 (fifteen years ago) link

according to luke vibert, aphex has been fully analogue for a while and this is the result

Barnaby (Barnaby), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 13:20 (fifteen years ago) link

probably getting fat and making music he will never show to anyone, ever.

If that's the plan, he was smart to grow the beard early.


What's the story behind Melodies from Mars?

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:55 (fifteen years ago) link

here's what Mike Paradinas (aka µ-Ziq) says about it:

Luke played me some of the hundreds of tracks earmarked for this Analord series and they are beautiful. More like SOSW* & CW**. But really good clear production. Lots of acid lines, but also a lot of melody & pads... Mostly analog(ue): 303, 606, 808, 909 and his collection of synths (a nice bit of chunky doepfer acid) but a few with breaks too.

* Surfing On Sine Waves
** Caustic Window

Melodies From Mars is rumored to be a demo that he sent to video game companies for them to use in their games. in any case they're probably just outtakes from the RDJ album period since a longer version of Fingerbib is on it.

joseph pot (STINKOR™), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 20:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Aphex Twin? Neither classic nor dud. Yes the guy has some absolutely insanely awesome tunes ("Come to Daddy"! "Windowlicker"! "Pacman Powerpill"! "On"!), but he has like three times as many sucky ones as he does good ones. Does anybody out there really like GAK? Or Hangable Auto Bulb? Or almost every song on the boring-as-hell Analogue Bubblebath series?

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 16 September 2004 03:04 (fifteen years ago) link

what? hangable auto bulb is amazing. ARCHED MAID VIA RDJ.

cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 16 September 2004 03:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Have there been earlier releases in this series already? This is number 10? (And why is it under "2001releases" in the URL?)

morris pavilion (samjeff), Thursday, 16 September 2004 18:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Whoa:

http://www.richarddjames.com/

morris pavilion (samjeff), Thursday, 16 September 2004 18:41 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Supermodels Tyra Banks and Richard D. James:

http://cdn-channels.netscape.com/gallery/i/b/banks/lg6.jpg

Lingbertt, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:35 (fourteen years ago) link

holy shit thats UNCANNY

capnkickass (gloriagaynor), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:50 (fourteen years ago) link

Heheheheh

Palomino (Palomino), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 19:30 (fourteen years ago) link

who is that?

Christopher Costello (CGC), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 19:31 (fourteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Aphex sucks. Their style is weak.

CaptainLorax, Thursday, 25 October 2007 15:28 (eleven years ago) link

they broke up last year

am0n, Thursday, 25 October 2007 15:36 (eleven years ago) link

Yo APHEX can I have your buchla modular?

why cause it looks intrsting

Display Name, Thursday, 25 October 2007 16:31 (eleven years ago) link

What really broke up Aphex Twin was the increasing tension within the group, which was kind of inevitable when you consider that Richard was devoting more and more time to card battle games, James' personality was being warped by his addiction to painkillers, and D's only true desire was to become a family man, now as much as ever. The Richard D. James album was really the last time they functioned as a cohesive group. On the bright side, I've heard Richard was working on a new solo project, and James, always a collaborator and producer above all, will surely find new talent to work with. There's also the possibility of a comeback album in the future, as long as one of the key members doesn't croak (fingers crossed!).

Z S, Thursday, 25 October 2007 16:59 (eleven years ago) link

they still suck though

CaptainLorax, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:15 (eleven years ago) link

of course there are some song exceptions

CaptainLorax, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:18 (eleven years ago) link

Wait, now I'm confused. Do they suck or not? Because I need to know.

lukas, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:25 (eleven years ago) link

they suck with a few song exceptions

CaptainLorax, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:35 (eleven years ago) link

kind of like you, but you don't write songs.

John Justen, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:38 (eleven years ago) link

do u like their cover of scorpions 'windowlicker'

am0n, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:41 (eleven years ago) link

In retrospect it's clear that the title "Druckqs" was a not-so-veiled jab at RDJ's former bandmates.

latebloomer, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:47 (eleven years ago) link

So they suck 100% of the time, except for when they were making those songs? Do they temporarily cease sucking if they perform those songs live? What if they mix two of their sucks together, and one sucks, and one doesn't? Do they suck 50% for the duration?

lukas, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:54 (eleven years ago) link

Take my hand, Captain! Together we will arrive at the truth!

lukas, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:55 (eleven years ago) link

Lukas, I think the crucial issues are which members of the Aphex Twin Band sucked the most, and who was carrying the band the majority of the time. To the first, I'd say D. definitely sucked the most. To the second, I'd actually argue that the rotating cast of studio drummers probably added an elegance to the band that could not have existed otherwise.

Z S, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:06 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah. Shame what happened to most of those drummers.

lukas, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:11 (eleven years ago) link

of course there are some song exceptions

Yeah, their songs are the best part. Richard has a fantastic voice.

Curt1s Stephens, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:22 (eleven years ago) link

The session drummers allegedly hated having to lay those drill n bass beats down, but they were pros and did the job as asked. R/D/J were real dictators in the studio. No one could satisfy them.

latebloomer, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:23 (eleven years ago) link

Aphex Twin Band back in their heyday, with original drummer Fred Ugolon (R.I.P.)

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/9515/66photolz2.jpg

Z S, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:33 (eleven years ago) link

which is the best Aphex Twin solo/side project? Polygon Window, AFX, or Caustic Window?

latebloomer, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:34 (eleven years ago) link

I heard they're reuniting for Coachella

Davey D, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:37 (eleven years ago) link

have u guys heard the solo joint richard did before he joined aphex twin? really out-there stuff.

max, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

Wax Trax via TVT

blokes you can't rust (sic), Tuesday, 23 April 2019 23:03 (four months ago) link

Surfing on Sine Waves says very clearly right on the label that it is the work of Richard D. James so there was no mystery about the source at the time.

everything, Tuesday, 23 April 2019 23:44 (four months ago) link

yes but people who've heard or read something about this "Aphex Twin" making noise from some place in the Englands, without digging deeply into his backstory or buying import 12"s or listening to late-night college radio with informed nerdlord DJs, would not necessarily see a record by "Polygon Window" in their record shop, then pick it up, slide one of the inner sleeves out, put the gatefold back in the rack, carefully remove the record from the inner sleeve, read that the contents were programmed by "richard d james," and ruminate to themselves "Ah! Perhaps this James has issued other records beneath further pseudonyms. As his publishing is unassigned, my best bet for finding out whether he has credits under other names is to use a mechanical pencil to write an aerogramme to the PRS, whose London address I happen to know off by heart."

And then wait months for a reply, and in the meantime say to themselves ".....OH!. Dick James. It's a joke name, referencing the Beatles' publisher of Northern Songs fame. Those wacky English techno japesters, how foolish of me."

Honestly? Probably no more than 30% of Americans browsing in record shops did this at the time, and their local emporia might have been sold out of the Xylem Tube EP 12" by the time they did get an answer.

blokes you can't rust (sic), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 00:58 (four months ago) link

Surfing on Sine Waves was stickered saying it was Aphex Twin.

stirmonster, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 03:05 (four months ago) link

I feel like more time passed than is apparent. At least from the states perspective....the timeframe between the release of SAW and it's press/hype, and the eventual us wax trax/tvt release of Surfing felt like a different era to me.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 03:14 (four months ago) link

Surfing on Sine Waves was stickered saying it was Aphex Twin

in the US, too? (Dan?)

(it's a moot point re this thread bcz Josh knew anyway, I'm just curious)

blokes you can't rust (sic), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 09:10 (four months ago) link

It's been a looooong time, but while I *knew* that Polygon Window was Aphex Twin, I really don't remember it stickered as such. I just thought it was a side project of sorts, and tried to determine how it was different from the "real" thing. I did know about Aphex Twin beforehand, but I'm not sure what I'd heard of his, if anything, so I must have based my purchase on a review I read somewhere (The Wire?). I'm not sure when I first saw SAW in the shops here, but I know I didn't feel like paying $30 or whatever for it on CD. I don't think I heard SAW until after the release of SAWII, but again, it's been a looooooong time.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 11:59 (four months ago) link

I don't know if the US version was stickered. The album was very heavily promoted and written about here in the UK and "Quoth" had already been a very big club hit. Not sure The Wire would have covered it though - i can't recall if they had quite got to this kind of thing yet by that point.

stirmonster, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 12:32 (four months ago) link

also, the track "polygon window" was on warp's artificial intelligence compilation which had been a big deal.

visiting, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 14:52 (four months ago) link

As memory serves this stuff was coming out fast and furious as soon as labels like TVT started distributing. There was like a backlog that kept hitting the shelves. At the school paper I remember being excited every time something from TBT arrived, even though it was often forgettable stuff like Rise Robots Rise iirc.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 15:08 (four months ago) link

TVT, whoops.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 15:33 (four months ago) link

My memory is that SAW and SAWII received a wider critical reception, had better distribution and had generally remained widely available. Surfing On Sine Waves, stop me if I'm wrong, actually went out of circulation at some point, and while not rare exactly, was a bit trickier to find... the early AFX and Caustic Window records were somewhat similar in that respect. I don't remember people not realising that it was all being produced by Richard James at the time, at least in my circle of DJ friends.

MikoMcha, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 15:42 (four months ago) link

“It’s these people called Aphex Twins” 😭 pic.twitter.com/G6aygIiaFL

— arj (@shempiii) April 27, 2019

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 27 April 2019 19:04 (four months ago) link

Great retrospective SAWII review by Sherburne: https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/aphex-twin-selected-ambient-works-volume-ii/

blokes you can't rust (sic), Sunday, 5 May 2019 21:27 (four months ago) link

It was a great piece, provides lots of context.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 5 May 2019 21:40 (four months ago) link

trying not to take the bait on that rating

but everybody calls me, (lukas), Sunday, 5 May 2019 22:20 (four months ago) link

what sort of maniac reads a numerical rating on a record review

blokes you can't rust (sic), Sunday, 5 May 2019 23:08 (four months ago) link

Good piece. (I think the album deserves a 10, if any album does...)

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Monday, 6 May 2019 00:22 (four months ago) link

two months pass...

in the unlikely event anyone wants Collapse but doesn’t have it, send me a webmail and i’ll send you a download code

but everybody calls me, (lukas), Monday, 15 July 2019 22:00 (two months ago) link


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