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it's only fair after posting the link to the arty art film to post a link to Ulver live in 1993!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAecD0_FTug

scott seward, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 11:20 (twelve years ago) link

three months pass...

look...

ULVER To Release 'Shadows Of The Sun' In The Fall
http://tinyurl.com/395fyp

djmartian, Thursday, 12 July 2007 19:06 (twelve years ago) link

the most recent ulver record i own is the marriage of heaven and hell thingie. i remember feeling a little cut that they'd turned their back completely on black metal. it's an entertaining release nonetheless, though i never felt compelled to listen to anything that came after it.

nattens madrigal is about as pure and glorious as black metal gets.

Charlie Howard, Thursday, 12 July 2007 19:12 (twelve years ago) link

omg NEW ULVER

thanks, dj martian!

Just got offed, Thursday, 12 July 2007 19:16 (twelve years ago) link

didn't know you were a fan, actually :)

Charlie Howard, Thursday, 12 July 2007 19:22 (twelve years ago) link

This is exciting news. Anyone know if it's getting released on "The End" this time around?

John Justen, Thursday, 12 July 2007 19:26 (twelve years ago) link

i only have 'blood inside' but it's one of my very favourite records. when i decided to introduce my music-collection to my brother, it was the first album i urged him to play. he put it in the disc-drive without pressing it down and scratched it. :-/

Just got offed, Thursday, 12 July 2007 19:29 (twelve years ago) link

i would think that it's the same, i.e Jester Records for Europe and The End Records for North America

djmartian, Thursday, 12 July 2007 19:34 (twelve years ago) link

i remember an ex-girlfriend did something similar with my copy of 'tea for the tillerman'. in fact, it was one of those players that you open and close with a button and it slides in and out. she didn't put the record in the slot properly and it got stuck when she pressed the button. scratched it so badly it wouldn't play...

but back to ulver,

i think...i think i should purchase 'blood inside'

Charlie Howard, Thursday, 12 July 2007 19:35 (twelve years ago) link

LJ, you would probably like Teachings in Silence etc. although it's much darker/emptier. Might want to work your way into the earlier albums, they aren't likely to appeal to your sensibilities (as I understand them) right off the bat. Try to track down the quick fix of melancholy EP also, which you are almost certain to like if you like blood inside.

Of course, you don't like "Nail", so I'm not entirely sure what to think about you. Perhaps this will improve your score overall :)

xposts

John Justen, Thursday, 12 July 2007 19:39 (twelve years ago) link

hey dude, I LIKE nail, but i prefer the last two for some unfathomable reason! 'kreibabe' is one of the finest, most awesomely warped pieces of music i've ever heard, and the rest ain't far behind. i'm also a fan of more than a little metal, so i'd probably really enjoy the early stuff. would you say 'bergtatt' or 'nattens madrigal' would be a wiser foray?

also, cheers for the EP leads! :-D

Just got offed, Thursday, 12 July 2007 19:44 (twelve years ago) link

i'd say bergtatt, because you get a cool hybrid of nordic folk and black metal with that one and it's a good intro to their black metal dynamic. nattens madrigal is an onslaught from start to finish. though honey to these ears

Charlie Howard, Thursday, 12 July 2007 19:48 (twelve years ago) link

let's see what john says

Charlie Howard, Thursday, 12 July 2007 19:48 (twelve years ago) link

i tend to prefer onslaughts too, mind

Just got offed, Thursday, 12 July 2007 19:49 (twelve years ago) link

Well, if part of what you enjoy about Blood Inside is the lush production, nattens is going to be a bit of a shock. It's a fantastic by harshly recorded album (w/intent). I think I'd go with bergtatt. If you're like me, though, eventually you'll end up buying everything you can find.

John Justen, Thursday, 12 July 2007 19:53 (twelve years ago) link

i would suggest that the organic and primal production (or lack of production as it were) on nattens lends the record a really ambient quality. the playing is extremely tight as well. no one can doubt that it's an extremely focused record, despite its harsh sound.

great artwork in the sleeves too with some really artistic shots of the band

Charlie Howard, Thursday, 12 July 2007 19:58 (twelve years ago) link

does it sound anything like (this will sound heretic but bear with me) Primal Scream's 'Accelerator'? that's the kind of harsh, distorted guitar kerfuffle i go crazy for.

Just got offed, Thursday, 12 July 2007 20:03 (twelve years ago) link

the guitar in the ulver is not as loose and is more melodic than the primal scream.

accelerator is a cool track.

Charlie Howard, Thursday, 12 July 2007 20:12 (twelve years ago) link

oh wait, i've just thought of a possible comparison. does it sound anything like serena-maneesh's 'beehiver II', 'don't come down here' or 'your blood in mine'?

Just got offed, Thursday, 12 July 2007 20:23 (twelve years ago) link

I don't know that Primal Scream song.

xpost:Nor do I know those songs.

John Justen, Thursday, 12 July 2007 20:25 (twelve years ago) link

oh wait, I've got it. opening track off Sleater-Kinney's last album ('The Fox'). Do Ulver's guitars achieve that sort of lo-fi distorted glory?

Just got offed, Thursday, 12 July 2007 20:33 (twelve years ago) link

hahah, the idea of comparing sleater-kinney to nattens-era ulver is hilarious :)

but in practice, there just may be something there. i'd need to hear the track in question again...so watch this space.

i've never even heard of serena-maneesh.

Charlie Howard, Thursday, 12 July 2007 20:39 (twelve years ago) link

according to jester records the new Ulver album will be released October 1st

djmartian, Friday, 13 July 2007 19:53 (twelve years ago) link

not me. tempting though. or at least the old logo.

scott seward, Friday, 13 July 2007 20:11 (twelve years ago) link

You have to seek ulver (wolves) in Norway as they are almost completely eradicated from nature. On the other hand, destroying them is against the law, so I would advise you to let them live.

Geir Hongro, Friday, 13 July 2007 22:11 (twelve years ago) link

YOU'RE BLOWING MY MIND HERE DUDE.

John Justen, Friday, 13 July 2007 22:20 (twelve years ago) link

four weeks pass...

briefly, while i have the time, breaking my self-imposed ilx exile to note that the new album is lovely. very dreamy. beautiful. late-night mood. even the sabbath cover fits in nicely. though it was a lovely song to begin with. so, nothing strange about that. nowhere near as jarring or as fanciful as the last album, but just as deep and wild in its way.

scott seward, Saturday, 11 August 2007 04:08 (twelve years ago) link

four weeks pass...

don't even know where to begin...

this impresses me. as always, i guess. i'm looking forward to hearing how other people respond to this.

scott seward, Sunday, 9 September 2007 15:52 (twelve years ago) link

:-) You should know, Scott, that your EMP presentation *still* gets people talking about Ulver.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 9 September 2007 15:53 (twelve years ago) link

Does someone have "Bergtatt" handy and could send it to me?

roxymuzak, Sunday, 9 September 2007 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

OMG this thread revive is such a ridiculius coincidence! I've JUST (in the past half-hour) copied to my computer Ulver's ENTIRE album discography (alongside a LOT of other metal)! I shall be reporting to this thread with observations.

Themes From WB's MOHAH is unhinged, catchy awesomeness, yet also completely "what were they thinking?" at the same time. You want to look away, you want to hear more.

Just got offed, Sunday, 9 September 2007 16:02 (twelve years ago) link

Thanks, GOTT!!

roxymuzak, Sunday, 9 September 2007 19:32 (twelve years ago) link

five months pass...

'bergtatt' is really something special
fantastic vocals, extremely melodic, sparsely brutal, and i'd imagine pretty influential (i'm hearing similar melodies in dissection and agalloch)
1994 could be THE year for black metal

Charlie Howard, Thursday, 14 February 2008 02:05 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

listening to 'perdition city' right now. well it's good and all, but i think they've really evolved and found their true element outside of the metal realm since then. grazie

Charlie Howard, Saturday, 22 March 2008 17:56 (eleven years ago) link

the series of EPs they put out (and the soundtrack work they did) after perdition city are also a good taste of what was to come. although the progression from marriage of heaven and hell to perdition city is likewise a pretty major stepping stone to the current stuff. i would say that the sham mirrors was, in all its lunacy, a harbinger of things to come as well. especially lyrically and vocally.

ulver - evolution from day one.

(that's their new motto)

scott seward, Saturday, 22 March 2008 18:26 (eleven years ago) link

hahah 'marriage of heaven and hell' is wack! some great ideas and sounds in there, and guest appearances, but i can only listen to it rarely

Charlie Howard, Sunday, 23 March 2008 12:40 (eleven years ago) link

I love everything this band has been compared to. Maybe I need to get some when I have money...

jonathan - stl, Sunday, 23 March 2008 17:12 (eleven years ago) link

you'd be well advised

Charlie Howard, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 15:50 (eleven years ago) link

four months pass...

It's only just sunk in during the past couple of days just how brilliant Shadows Of The Sun actually is. Arguably even more intricate (in its subtle way) than Blood Inside, although I still prefer the 2005 record, because I'm more a thrill-junkie than a contemplative sad-sack. ;-)

(Also because it's got slightly better songs and more of a sense of flow)

Just got offed, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 13:56 (eleven years ago) link

i've been listening to the last two albums a lot again recently and only now hearing something similar to six finger satellite's law of ruins. maybe i'm crazy

kamerad, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 22:18 (eleven years ago) link

i must now hear six finger satellite

Just got offed, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 22:18 (eleven years ago) link

You may find it hard to divine the thread.

contenderizer, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 22:40 (eleven years ago) link

?

Just got offed, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 22:46 (eleven years ago) link

check them out, just got offed, i think you might like them

kamerad, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 22:49 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

the sir weeze, Monday, 15 September 2008 01:32 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

I've found myself deeply drawn to Bergtatt lately. It's becoming an obsessive, regular spin. There's something about the churning, hyper-melodic tunes with the pseudo-Gregorian chant vocals that rivets me.

And there's that irresistible contrary element to Ulver. The way they identified with the spirit of black metal as it was developing, but they refused to be confined to it. I like that.

So far, Enslaved is the only other BM outfit that capture my imagination in the same manner.

Brooker Buckingham, Thursday, 13 November 2008 04:42 (ten years ago) link

Ulver rule, cant stop listening to them lately.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 14 November 2008 18:14 (ten years ago) link

Bergtatt is amazing, a total classic - if anyone can recommend anything on similar lines, I'd love to hear it. Borknagar didn't do it for me, Blut Aus Nord's 'Ultima Thulee' is as close as I've got.

Soukesian, Friday, 14 November 2008 21:29 (ten years ago) link

the "glammer hammer"/"moody stix"/"cromagnosis" section especially

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Monday, 19 September 2016 00:38 (two years ago) link

Everything Ulver does feels like a bad imitation of something they don't really "get." That goes for their black metal era too

punksishippies, Monday, 19 September 2016 00:51 (two years ago) link

ah

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Monday, 19 September 2016 01:16 (two years ago) link

hyperbolic review here:
http://decibelmagazine.com/0905_ulver_bloo.aspx

(and i totally did the ...ON ACID! trick, but i don't care cuz you have to smack people around in order to make them buy something weird. or at least i do cuz i'm no good at being subtle. i heart hyperbole.)

― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, August 29, 2005 1:56 AM (eleven years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and i totally got the "end of everything" thing from that ILM MBV thread from a while back.
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, August 29, 2005 1:58 AM (eleven years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

four months pass...
Blood Inside is something special - something else entirely!! My metal pals claim it isn't even metal, but it is. It's metal that's had all the metal "bits" taken out and replaced with everything else under the sun.
― Wogan Lenin (dog latin), Monday, January 9, 2006 2:21 PM (ten years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

one month passes...
It still ended up making a bunch of the metal polls, and a lot of metal people did like it a lot.
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, February 11, 2006 3:24 AM (ten years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

of course it's metal. i dunno, i really appreciate it. i find that with all hard rock/metal/punk there seems to be a lot of people scared to deviate fromt he original flow.
― Vintage Latin (dog latin), Saturday, February 11, 2006 3:28 AM (ten years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

s/o good posts era, s/o no caps mafia

Tell me who sends these infamous .gifs (bernard snowy), Monday, 19 September 2016 02:48 (two years ago) link

Everything Ulver does feels like a bad imitation of something they don't really "get." That goes for their black metal era too

I... kinda agree. About the more recent albums, anyway. I like the black metal stuff and the Silence/Singing EPs, but I've come to the realization that the proggy era just doesn't engage me like I wish it would, and there's this creeping feeling that it's because they just don't sound comfortable doing it. I want to like them! But even when they meet me halfway by doing a bunch of psych covers I'm just not feeling it.

"raw buttin' these toilet seats" (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 20 September 2016 08:15 (two years ago) link

it's really not true though. they take a lot of chances and they aren't afraid to fail. but they know what they're doing. the stuff that has worked has REALLY worked and they were totally inside it and made it tick. in troo black metal fashion, i honestly think don't think they give a fuck. there are definitely some past releases where it feels like you are listening to someone learn how to do something. but in a good way.

i haven't heard new stuff in a while though. i can't believe i wrote that blood inside review 11 years ago! we must all be really old now.

scott seward, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 02:22 (two years ago) link

but i've also kinda always liked how fucked up and awkward they could be. they make a band like radiohead sound like rebecca of sunnybrook farm. that art opera blake thing they did is completely demented and really doesn't work in some ways at all and sounds like people in a gulag somewhere who had only read about art music and then approximated it in DIY fashion but who the hell else would make something like that? on the other hand, blood inside is near perfection if you ask me as an art-prog statement and still sounds great and stands completely apart and not at all awkward. i think that was their most successful work of art. but i've missed stuff.

scott seward, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 02:34 (two years ago) link

i would buy the new one. didn't have much interest in the snooz-0)))) collaboration. kinda wish ulver had made an album with scott walker instead of those doofuses for maximum mindfuck.

scott seward, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 02:36 (two years ago) link

I'll have to give them another shot sometime, I guess. Like I say I want to feel it! Maybe I need to go wild pitch and check out the William Blake thing, which I haven't heard.

"raw buttin' these toilet seats" (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 05:37 (two years ago) link

i would buy the new one. didn't have much interest in the snooz-0)))) collaboration. kinda wish ulver had made an album with scott walker instead of those doofuses for maximum mindfuck.

― scott seward, Wednesday, September 21, 2016 2:36 AM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes!!

the new one is definitely worth checking out, but imo their best recording since blood inside really is the psych covers album

imago, Wednesday, 21 September 2016 09:52 (two years ago) link

also I do like the spoken-word thing on wars of the roses

imago, Saturday, 24 September 2016 15:14 (two years ago) link

war of the roses was the last one I bought

Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 25 September 2016 01:55 (two years ago) link

six months pass...

plowing through some of their early stuff and holy shit, Nattens Madrigal is going to give me hearing loss

frogbs, Monday, 10 April 2017 21:17 (two years ago) link

so can we talk about how this new record rocks? depeche mode is the obvious referent but it's coming at it from this weird angle that i love. jury's still out on which side it lands on of pastiche vs. homage, but the tunes are def there

austinb, Sunday, 16 April 2017 00:34 (two years ago) link

it lands on the side of being awesome. i made a thread about it

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Sunday, 16 April 2017 00:36 (two years ago) link

found it

austinb, Sunday, 16 April 2017 00:50 (two years ago) link

Not hearing what you're all hearing. Sounds like computer generated pastiche most of the time, with the distant clinical emptiness of Lansing-Dreisden. Guess I'll just have to try a few more times

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Sunday, 16 April 2017 07:20 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

https://ulver.bandcamp.com/album/drone-activity

posted elsewhere already?

lowercase (eric), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 20:55 (four months ago) link

i had no idea, omg

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 21:20 (four months ago) link


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