which is actually better 'apocalypse now' or 'apocalypse now : redux' ?

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The sacred cows are shaking in their...hoofs(?)!

― Adamrl (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:15 (eighteen years ago) link

http://citypages.com/databank/22/1081/article9770.asp

― Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:42 (eighteen years ago) link

you guys are crazy. i can't believe i'm the only one here to find redux so much better/complete than the other one (which was only like it is because it had to be showed at cannes and they were very late).

― Poison(Ivy) (PoisonIvy), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Clearly Coppola did not conceive of Marlon Brando weighing six-billion pounds and having to be shot entirely in shadow so I think it's pretty easy to separate them.

Even if he looked like Paul Newman, the Brando sequences are, written and filmed, portentious, ponderous, and camp.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:13 (eighteen years ago) link

True, but I think part of the reason they were written and filmed that way was because they had to "cover-up" the fact that Brando looked like he'd been having two cheeseburger lunchers at Chez Excessive rather than starving in the jungle and terrorizing the Viet-Cong.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:19 (eighteen years ago) link

I love Chez Excessive but you wait HOURS for a table.

― Adamrl (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Not when you are Marlon. They clear out the entire back part of the dining for him.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:46 (eighteen years ago) link

I like the Brando scenes in the original, myself. My problems are more with the ideas expressed by the movie in general (as spelled out in the link above), even by some of the best scenes.

I also like the way Redux moves and feels with the extra footage (especially the sex), but the Plantation scene is ludicrous as history and politics.

― Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Clearly, the best version of Apocalypse Now is Hearts Of Darkness

― The Equator Lounge (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 9 March 2006 01:25 (eighteen years ago) link

My friend who is like Dr. Morbius' age mentioned that the inhabitants of the plantation are supposed to be ghosts when we briefly chatted about this a few weeks ago... I'm like "Link pls/YSI?" but we were in the middle of a dank LES dive bar.

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 9 March 2006 01:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Clearly, the best version of Apocalypse Now is Hearts Of Darkness

OTMFM

"I swallowed a bug!" = pure poetry.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 9 March 2006 01:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Carmine Coppola's score is not present in this version.

ooh, i like the sound of that version!

― The Man Without Shadow (Enrique), Thursday, 9 March 2006 12:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Redux is not good, the added scenes add nothing except a little soft-core porn and just make the film even more unwieldy than it already was. (I'm wondering whether director's cuts are ever as good as the original, except in flagrant cases of studio-butchering).

Even if he looked like Paul Newman, the Brando sequences are, written and filmed, portentious, ponderous, and camp.

Although on reflection I accept all that, I still think those scenes work. Some of the campness in fact makes it all the more menacing.

― jz, Thursday, 9 March 2006 13:07 (eighteen years ago) link

six years pass...

Only just saw Redux for the first time tonight. Can't say the plantation scene bothered me much; it's a nice little breather in fact. It'd been so long since I'd seen the original that I didn't even recognize that the other new stuff was even new. 200 and some mins is quite a butt numbing length, though, and AN is already a draining enough experience as it is. Still, can't really say I have a preference of one over the other.

Also, young Fishburn = CUTE!

― this is the dream of avril and chad (jer.fairall), Saturday, 22 September 2012 03:42 (eleven years ago) link

i remember hating the plantation scene and the ending, but except for those flaws, I love this movie!

― did drake invent yolo (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 22 September 2012 05:37 (eleven years ago) link

four years pass...

fucking thing looks absolutely incredible in 1080/BluRay; a fact i only realized this week.

― piscesx, Saturday, 17 June 2017 10:14 (six years ago) link

two years pass...

well, he's right

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/aug/09/francis-ford-coppola-apocalypse-now-is-not-an-anti-war-film

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 12 August 2019 16:56 (four years ago) link

Off to see the new 4K Final Cut 'with Dolby Atmos' tonight on the tallest IMAX screen in the uk! Most excited i've been for a revival for a long time. The removal of the dreaded extended Playboy bunnies sequence seems to be going down well.

― piscesx, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 01:14 (four years ago) link

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