Audrey Hepburn or Katherine Hepburn?

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No way. AH is so much more teh hotness than KH. Or anyone else.

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Audrey is too prissy and banal.

Amity Wong (noodle vague), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:07 (eighteen years ago) link

God, someone should have smacked the twee out of me upthread.

Lars and Jagger (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:08 (eighteen years ago) link

katherine was probably better in bed but sex isn't everything, sometimes you want to look at ART

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:12 (eighteen years ago) link

But then you would have bledsoe.

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Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:12 (eighteen years ago) link

I think it was Gore Vidal who said Audrey Hepburn was "every American man's dream: a girl who looks like a 12-year-old boy."

Maybe. A really sexy 12-year-old boy, though.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:21 (eighteen years ago) link

i don't really care for sabrina, or love in the afternoon (creepy) for that matter

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:13 (eighteen years ago) link

what's wrong with love in the afternoon?

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Too obvious an age diff between the leads. Maurice Chevalier is good though.

k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:29 (eighteen years ago) link

was this supposed to be a serious question?

Mitya (mitya), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:31 (eighteen years ago) link

love in the afternoon is so gross

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:32 (eighteen years ago) link

the movie or the practice?

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:32 (eighteen years ago) link

I do like when private detective Maurice C. asks soon-to-be-dating-his-daughter ladies man Gary C. the rhetorical question "Does an artist know Picasso?"

k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:37 (eighteen years ago) link

As I grow older I seem to be coming down on the Katherine side. Bringing up Baby is one of the best comedies of its era.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 08:36 (eighteen years ago) link

katherine, no question!

"don't say anything, hilary. just... go."


my grandfather gave me a bio of her to read - kate remembered. i started but then got sidetracked, but even the first few pages were more entertaining than most audrey hepburn movies.

tres letraj (tehresa), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 08:39 (eighteen years ago) link

katharine slays all comers. end of story.

like a circle in a spiral, like a wheel within a wheel (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 08:50 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm so embarrassed that i misspelled her name in the thread title!

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 08:53 (eighteen years ago) link

me too, in my answer!
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tres letraj (tehresa), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 08:55 (eighteen years ago) link

i refuse to live in a world where people find this ugly:

http://delirium.lejournal.free.fr/Katharine_Hepburn1.jpg

like a circle in a spiral, like a wheel within a wheel (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 08:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, Jeez. Audrey for Breakfast at Tiffany's alone

I do prefer Audrey but her character in breakfast at tiffany’s did my head in, no guy would put up with that.

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 09:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Audrey never knew how to needle people. Kate could bore in like a steam drill. She also had a stronger jaw line. Natch.

Aimless (Aimless), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Katherine...especially in Holiday.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Katherine = annoying and not sexy
Audrey = intensely annoying and not even remotely sexy

Katherine wins... just

Oh No, It's Dadaismus (and His Endless Stupid Jokes) (Dada), Thursday, 1 December 2005 10:30 (eighteen years ago) link

... both very attractive of course, just not sexy

Oh No, It's Dadaismus (and His Endless Stupid Jokes) (Dada), Thursday, 1 December 2005 10:31 (eighteen years ago) link

did she see herself as duth or british? both?

You mean dud or Dutch? ;-) I do know that she could speak Dutch quite well. I think her granny made sure she continued using the language so she didn't forget it. I think she's so lovely. Very ethereal. Like a fragile porcelain angel. But not really sexy. If I remember correctly she said she was so skinny because of the war: the atrocities made her feel guilty of eating (or something along those lines). :-(

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Thursday, 1 December 2005 10:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Women generally find Audrey Hepburn much more attractive than men do

Oh No, It's Dadaismus (and His Endless Stupid Jokes) (Dada), Thursday, 1 December 2005 10:43 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, but audrey's just too demure and slight for me. i'm so not into people that i could knock over with a feather. i don't see the appeal.

it's very telling that so many people prefer audrey.

like a circle in a spiral, like a wheel within a wheel (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 1 December 2005 10:59 (eighteen years ago) link

whereas katharine would PWN any room she walked into. now that's a woman.

like a circle in a spiral, like a wheel within a wheel (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 1 December 2005 11:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I think Nathalie nailed it above with Very ethereal. Like a fragile porcelain angel. I prefer flesh and blood, meself.

Oh No, It's Dadaismus (and His Endless Stupid Jokes) (Dada), Thursday, 1 December 2005 11:01 (eighteen years ago) link

katharine reminds me of david bowie in many ways.

Very ethereal. Like a fragile porcelain angel

if i wanted one of those, i'd buy it off the home shopping network.

like a circle in a spiral, like a wheel within a wheel (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 1 December 2005 11:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Audrey - beautiful and cute in Roman Holiday... Elegant and wonderful as UNICEF ambassador.

Katherine - knockout ihttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:KH_40s-10.jpg and better actress. Admired for her confidence
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/36/Katharinehepburn1.jpg
..which got annoying with old age.

Still, Kate.

D.I.Y. U.N.K.L.E. (dave225.3), Thursday, 1 December 2005 12:51 (eighteen years ago) link

seven years pass...

Audrey wears me down if I see too much of her. Although I like her more in the abstract.

Cunga, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 17:29 (eleven years ago) link

five months pass...
three years pass...

Catching up, catching up.

I've been listening to the Julie Ruin's Run Fast in the car for a couple of days. My favourite song is "Lookout"--found this video. Could do without the oversized lyrics blocking out all the images.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4id-3mw2hsI

clemenza, Sunday, 20 August 2017 19:21 (six years ago) link

three years pass...

in fact, it is absolutely terrible

akm, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 01:33 (three years ago) link

I liked it a lot.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 01:34 (three years ago) link

Pretty sure I just watched my first-ever Audrey this week (The Children's Hour). Probably not the best intro to her allure but she was quite good in it.

Clem McFlannery's Clam Phlegm Cannery (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 01:35 (three years ago) link

re Audrey - Sabrina, Funny Face, Green Mansions, Breakfast at Tiffany’s, The Children’s Hour, Charade - she was great in all of them

Roman Holiday, My Fair Lady, and Wait Until Dark are my favorite performances of hers

Dan S, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 02:13 (three years ago) link

19 years later, still so embarrassed that i got kate’s name wrong in the thread title

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 02:44 (three years ago) link

Katharine has the more impressive career by far.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 11:29 (three years ago) link

Nothing in common, these two.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 15:37 (three years ago) link

I can think of one thing.

You Can't Have the Woogie Without a Little Boogie (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 15:46 (three years ago) link

They were into threeways and pistachio ice cream

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 15:47 (three years ago) link

Beat me to it.

You Can't Have the Woogie Without a Little Boogie (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 15:56 (three years ago) link

Both Katherine and Audrey were slotted into very particular types of roles throughout their careers. How one relates to them is bound to be largely dependent on how one relates to their typical characters, with a small side order of how one relates to their biographies. I happen to relate better to Katherine than Audrey, just as a matter of my personal tastes.

Judge Roi Behan (Aimless), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 17:54 (three years ago) link

Just because I got to watch and hear her for 90 minutes, I thought the documentary was pretty good. The framing bit with the ballet dancers was quite unnecessary, and they skipped over a few crucial films for some reason: Charade, The Nun's Story, The Children's Hour. (Skipping Bloodline, which played when I was an usher in 1979, a little more understandable.) I didn't know anything about her war experiences, and if I've ever seen Mel Ferrer in a film, I'm drawing a blank. (Like many, I'm sure, I probably always thought she was married to José Ferrer.) I found that guy who swooped in near the end--"Merle Oberon's companion"--a little suspicious, but it seemed like a important relationship in her life. Her time with UNICEF was moving.

clemenza, Friday, 2 April 2021 14:57 (three years ago) link

Charade is fun. But so is To Have and Have Not.

I see no necessity to choose.

calzone layer (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 2 April 2021 16:03 (three years ago) link

Wait, fuck, did I really just write that? Not To Have and Have Not. African Queen.

calzone layer (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 2 April 2021 16:04 (three years ago) link

also 1956 is the date of my fair lady on stage: the film is 1964

mark s, Tuesday, 2 January 2024 11:25 (three months ago) link

GBS, HG Wells and Dickens were certainly interesting choices for musicals!

The Italian Yob (Tom D.), Tuesday, 2 January 2024 11:36 (three months ago) link

i raise you chitty chitty bang bang, dr dolittle and the von trapps

mark s, Tuesday, 2 January 2024 11:49 (three months ago) link

The available clips of Audrey H singing Eliza suggest that she'd have been fine, but this was still very much not how it worked in Hollywood musicals

emishi sun hack (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 January 2024 12:58 (three months ago) link

i found this quote (via quora) from http://www.julieandrewsonline.com/news/1960_news/maccalls_1966.html:

Did you do any special studying before you tackled Eliza?

JA: I ran the original movie with Wendy Hiller* over and over again and bawled every time. I studied cockney with an American professor of phonetics – here I was English, learning cockney from an American! – but I'm not very good at accents. Most of the work, I frankly confess, happened during performances – I didn't know what I was doing until about three months after we opened. Even with all of Moss Hart's help, I had to learn onstage, so to speak, and it's the best way to learn – if you can get away with it!

*(viz PYGMALION, 1938, in which hiller, born cheshire, was apparently first person to say "bloody" in a british film: "not bloody likely!")

mark s, Tuesday, 2 January 2024 14:06 (three months ago) link

mr doolittle in that version is an absolute marvel, disgusting

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Tuesday, 2 January 2024 14:35 (three months ago) link

The available clips of Audrey H singing Eliza suggest that she'd have been fine, but this was still very much not how it worked in Hollywood musicals

― emishi sun hack (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 January 2024 12:58 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

It's worth pointing out too that Jeremy Brett was apparently rather a good singer but they decided not to use his voice and so ruined the best song in the film by shooting him wandering around in the middle distance so you couldn't see his lips move.

Little Billy Love (Tom D.), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 08:17 (three months ago) link

Audrey is at her best and worst in Charade, on Amazon now and one of my comfort movies.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 January 2024 00:23 (three months ago) link

Oof -- scanning the thread spoiled it a bit to find out they were actually related, but only distantly. I rather liked the possibility they were identical twins but were in a real life Parent Trap situation.

Anyways, Kate Mulgrew (and Dana Carvey) are always shoe-ins for a Kathere-inactor but who could credibly be Audrey?

Because it's not Jennifer Love Hewitt!
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Philip Nunez, Thursday, 4 January 2024 00:41 (three months ago) link

Tavi Gevinson?

Lily Dale, Thursday, 4 January 2024 02:30 (three months ago) link

Ariana Grande imo

he’s an adventurer (derogatory) (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 4 January 2024 04:50 (three months ago) link

chan marshall could have summoned the vibe at one time

mookieproof, Thursday, 4 January 2024 06:24 (three months ago) link

they tried with Audrey Tatou but it never really took

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 4 January 2024 16:38 (three months ago) link

It's curious how Audrey Hepburn suggests a shorter actress when she actually stood 5'7". Ariana Grande is 5'1" and Tavi Gevinson 5 feet even.

Josefa, Thursday, 4 January 2024 17:34 (three months ago) link

Yes I noticed she was pretty tall in My Fair Lady.

Little Billy Love (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 January 2024 17:43 (three months ago) link

tavi gevinson is a horrible actress, based on the one half season of revived gossip girl I attempted to watch. that disqualifies her completely

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 4 January 2024 20:30 (three months ago) link

but _does it_?

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 4 January 2024 20:50 (three months ago) link

yes

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 4 January 2024 21:00 (three months ago) link

deems was having a chuckle.

the fans of a big movie star have such a powerful attachment to their idol that it requires exceptional acting ability to convincingly impersonate them. it doesn't matter how much or little acting ability the movie star may have had.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 4 January 2024 21:06 (three months ago) link


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