yeah it's still part of the block story-wise, but it's a large set with new/different mechanics and will be drafted by itself. basically the same deal as Rise of the Eldrazi a couple years ago.
― ciderpress, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:00 (twelve years ago) link
ahhh, cool. ever since Coldsnap I never had any idea what was going on with the block structure. crazy how much I was worried back in like Kamigawa block that they were running out of ideas, and they responded by printing way more new and well-designed cards every year
― frogs you are the dumbest asshole (frogbs), Monday, 30 January 2012 18:04 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i think it's sweet because i love triple-large-set draft formats and don't really like full block draft formats with the exception of Ravnica block
― ciderpress, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:06 (twelve years ago) link
exactly - I loved the way Ravnica came together but stuff like the Scars block where you'd suddenly be pushed into doing blue/white infect knowing that there would be nothing for you in the next 2 packs was pretty awkward. but I do like 2/1 drafts with a large and a small
― frogs you are the dumbest asshole (frogbs), Monday, 30 January 2012 18:08 (twelve years ago) link
for me it's mostly that being able to consistently get certain cards esp. uncommons makes drafting various gimmicky archetypes a lot easier. like in 3x Innistrad draft, there's a real deck you can draft that plays out like this:
step 1: play out a bunch of defensive creatures to stall the gamestep 2: mill your entire deck into your graveyard until you have no cards leftstep 3: on your upkeep before you'd draw from an empty deck and lose, flash back Memory's Journey to put Runic Repetition into your deck and draw it.step 4: use Runic Repetition to get back Memory's Journey
at this point you can use Memory's Journey and Runic Repetition to draw whatever card you want each turn. Now you can play Gnaw to the Bone to gain 20+ life if you're close to dead, then loop Spider Spawning to make enough tokens to kill them.
it sounds like someone's weirdo casual combo deck but you can actually draft this, and it actually works! and stuff like this is really only possible in a 3x large set format when you have the maximum number of chances at getting the important cards
― ciderpress, Monday, 30 January 2012 18:33 (twelve years ago) link
i've never seen anyone pull that off. i did make a (somewhat successful) deck with 4 creatures and a bunch of dream twist/curse that mills 2 each turn which struck me as a very odd thing to do in a draft. you can definitely do really goofy things if you're drafting 3x a small set. i remember the first draft I did of Morningtide in which I picked up 9 of these guys: http://gatherer.wizards.com/pages/card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=152736
i guess i'll have to see how the INN/INN/DKA drafts play out - I agree that 3x INN was a great format.
― frogs you are the dumbest asshole (frogbs), Monday, 30 January 2012 19:19 (twelve years ago) link
i actually don't think it was a great format. there's a lot of cool stuff you can do but most of it gets crushed by whoever at the table was lucky enough to end up with the best G/W aggro deck, or blue tempo deck with invisible stalker. i've had more frustrating losses than in any other limited format i've played, due to a lack of hard removal and a lot of powerful tempo cards like Silent Departure that punish you for tapping out for something big.
the worst example i can think of was that i actually had to concede a game before my 2nd turn because it was impossible for me to win
― ciderpress, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:31 (twelve years ago) link
i'm not saying its terrible though, it's still a fun format! just not as balanced as other ones i've played
― ciderpress, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:34 (twelve years ago) link
and the Dark Ascension pack should fix some of the problems too
― ciderpress, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:35 (twelve years ago) link
picked up this dude's new game - king of tokyo. looks sick...
― is it hrostep? (cozen), Monday, 30 January 2012 19:36 (twelve years ago) link
huh? what did he play ...or did you just mulligan to 4 or 5 ? (usually that ends things)
I like Innistrad draft b/c it gives you a lot of avenues to explore without 'forcing your hand' (unlike Lorwyn, which was all about how many creatures you could get in your tribe) - instead of drafting colors, it's more about drafting an archetype. Especially since most of them use the graveyards in different ways. Only thing that I hate is Invisible Stalker + Butchers Cleaver which seems to crop up fairly often and is just unfair as hell.
― frogs you are the dumbest asshole (frogbs), Monday, 30 January 2012 19:38 (twelve years ago) link
i was on the draw, he played t1 delver of secrets, t2 flipped it revealing brimstone volley, then played spectral flight on the delver and hit me for 5. I now have 2 turns to get rid of a 5/4 flying creature before i'm in burn range, and my hand/deck had no outs to that for less than 4 mana so i just scooped.
― ciderpress, Monday, 30 January 2012 19:43 (twelve years ago) link
well flipping delver on t2 is pretty damn nuts in standard so yeah not much you can do there
worst I've gotten it was turn 1 Pilgrim, turn 2 Midnight Haunting, turn 3 double Travel Prep, I was on the draw and hadn't even played a card yet
― frogs you are the dumbest asshole (frogbs), Monday, 30 January 2012 19:46 (twelve years ago) link
ive enjoyed innistrad draft but i think ciderpress is right. on the other hand ive managed to win some games with really terrible decks like blue/black mill with a lab maniac and four other creatures
― the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:28 (twelve years ago) link
i have not gotten to win a game with lab maniac yet, and i am jealous of everyone who has
― ciderpress, Monday, 30 January 2012 20:32 (twelve years ago) link
i made a t2 deck with him. basically it was a ton of cheap draw, looters, etc., with 8 counterspells and unburial rites to take Jin-Gataxis out of the grave, draw a ton of cards and win with Lab Maniac. really fun to play and it could really work well if you drew the counterspells but it was really easy to sideboard against
― frogs you are the dumbest asshole (frogbs), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:34 (twelve years ago) link
lab maniac is not very good in limited, i drew really lucky to get it to work and was playing a b/w deck with almost no removal
― the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Monday, 30 January 2012 20:36 (twelve years ago) link
i would really like to do an innistrad draft online w/ ilx mtg players. is such a thing possible?
― Mordy, Monday, 30 January 2012 22:37 (twelve years ago) link
probably not, there's only like 5 or 6 of us and we'd all have to be online at once
― frogs you are the dumbest asshole (frogbs), Monday, 30 January 2012 22:45 (twelve years ago) link
we would just have to draft together. we could schedule the games at our convenience
― Mordy, Monday, 30 January 2012 22:47 (twelve years ago) link
sealed is 100x easier to coordinate but i'd be down for either
― ciderpress, Monday, 30 January 2012 23:27 (twelve years ago) link
yeah I think coordinating a draft will be impossible but I'll do sealed
― iatee, Monday, 30 January 2012 23:38 (twelve years ago) link
oh yeah, i assumed it would be sealed. i guess i didn't realize draft only meant w/ passing packs around.
so is there a way to coordinate that online?
― Mordy, Monday, 30 January 2012 23:40 (twelve years ago) link
if there is a good sealed generator outside of the one that was included in magic workstation I have not found it
― iatee, Monday, 30 January 2012 23:41 (twelve years ago) link
Wow, this thread really took off since the last time I posted in... 2003? Jeez. I never really stopped playing, but I'm happy to see more people into the game again. The last few sets have some of the best-designed cards in a long time and I guess it's not surprising they're hooking people.
http://ccgdecks.com/ is a decent place to do sealed if you don't feel like installing Magic Workstation, though the interface for building the deck is a little hard to manage. I end up doing drafts on that site too, those usually work out well.
― Vinnie, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 01:27 (twelve years ago) link
i would play either draft or sealed with yall
― chillin in the volvo, listenin' to alva-noto (fennel cartwright), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 02:44 (twelve years ago) link
sealed is hella fun id be up 4 it
― the parable is the parable of the (Lamp), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:51 (twelve years ago) link
if it looks like we can get 8 people we can do some knockout tournament
― iatee, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:52 (twelve years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/SBSsE.jpg
― ciderpress, Monday, 6 February 2012 05:06 (twelve years ago) link
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lahtedTO031qzgp6f.jpg
― Z S, Monday, 6 February 2012 05:08 (twelve years ago) link
?
― Lamp, Monday, 6 February 2012 15:45 (twelve years ago) link
mario made out of magic cards?
― Mordy, Monday, 6 February 2012 15:50 (twelve years ago) link
oic
― Lamp, Monday, 6 February 2012 16:55 (twelve years ago) link
I wish I had cards to go to this w/http://www.theawl.com/2012/02/midtowns-magic-gathering
― iatee, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 06:08 (twelve years ago) link
the 'token white guys' thread on sna always makes me lol/confused
― Lamp, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 00:06 (twelve years ago) link
lmao
― iatee, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 00:07 (twelve years ago) link
mtg-playing tumblr whites
― Mordy, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 00:08 (twelve years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/HuGiY.jpg
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 04:58 (twelve years ago) link
what's awesome about that is that I have a buddy who looks EXACTLY LIKE that, to the point where he's able to convince people who don't play that he won some kind of contest and got to be on the card. i gotta post some pictures of this dude.
― Estimate the percent chance that a whale has ever been to the moon? (frogbs), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 13:09 (twelve years ago) link
really excited cuz im playing a block constructed tournament tonight and i think im really, really happy with my deck
― Lamp, Friday, 30 March 2012 22:03 (twelve years ago) link
did u include a lot of serra angel cards in it to head off MTG misogyny?
(jk)
― Mordy, Friday, 30 March 2012 22:11 (twelve years ago) link
haha i totally do love angel cards and im psyched for the new block which seems like its gonna be angel heavy but im playing G/R undying
― Lamp, Friday, 30 March 2012 22:29 (twelve years ago) link
was playing W/b/g tokens but post-ban thought id give something different a go
i also love angels. white is my fave color by far. angels + white weenie just makes me so happy
― Mordy, Friday, 30 March 2012 22:33 (twelve years ago) link
i made a Tenab the Harvester EDH deck recently (for when my MTG friends came to visit us from NY) but really i was just enthusiastic about playing the white cards (i do have some killer green moves too). maybe i'll make a white/green EDH deck. or mono white!
― Mordy, Friday, 30 March 2012 22:34 (twelve years ago) link
whites my fave color too - ive been fucking around with a mono white legacy deck on cockatrice but itd be like $700 to build irl and not actually very good. i just want to run a bunch of stall enchantments like moat and castle and island sanctuary
― Lamp, Friday, 30 March 2012 22:50 (twelve years ago) link
I think I figured out how to get cockatrice to work on my shitty old computer, we should play again soon
― iatee, Friday, 30 March 2012 22:52 (twelve years ago) link
Lamp people actually play block constructed where you live?
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 14:54 (twelve years ago) link
http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/large_lightbox/hash/6d/d0/6dd0c8962db9df3706a61569ff42354b.jpg
new preview card
sure have come a long way since the days of Seraph. this thing is insane.
― Estimate the percent chance that a whale has ever been to the moon? (frogbs), Tuesday, 3 April 2012 14:57 (twelve years ago) link
they already made a 'you win' card didn't you? eventually they'll just make it cost 2 blue mana or something
― iatee, Tuesday, 3 April 2012 15:04 (twelve years ago) link