quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a rolling new york times thread

Priced out of New York? Try East New York, just east of New York.

yorkville is geographically 'the upper east side' but it's pretty different...that prob won't be the case after the 2nd avenue subway opens up.

h8 the poor soooo much i'm glad they are so gullible wrt corporate pressures

lol @ Ladies Mile. might as well go back to Nieuw-Amsterdam while you're at it

new amsterdam is such a dope name, i had a dream one that new york was named st charles

yorkville is geographically 'the upper east side' but it's pretty different...

Wait, so which is the upper 70s and York Avenue, where my grandma lived? I (and she) always thought of that neighborhood as both definitively Yorkville and definitively Upper East Side.

well there are still some v rich people there but the overall york/1st/2nd/3rd and 5th/lex/mad/park are fairly distinct. I mean there is a lot of hair splitting in ny but I think when people say 'the upper east side' the implication is group 2

york is def kinda its own thing, its known for that, narcissism of small diff and all naturally but still

Yeah when I think UES I think rich and when I think Yorkville I think of people who would probably live in Brooklyn except they don't care about all that Brooklyn stuff

I think as far as hair splitting goes this is a hair worth splitting cause it's the difference between 'where the richest people on earth live' and 'the cheapest neighborhood to live in south of harlem'

u know what's kinda an interesting lil anomaly is sutton place, it's the same st as york but for like 5 blocks its all exclusive and fancy

the actual amont of space the richest people in the world take up of the ues expressed as a percentage is def like less than half

this building round there is inneresting too:
http://ephemeralnewyork.wordpress.com/2012/01/22/an-1826-hotel-resort-still-standing-on-61st-street/

As I mentioned to Chakim, perhaps to curry sympathy

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lol yeah that line

I just find "Do you know how hard it is to quit smoking?" one of the most face-punchable phrases around. It's real easy if you never start

this is a hilariously tone-deaf juxtaposition

I'm a smoker and don't have a lot of sympathy for my fellow addicts, tbh.

Cigarette addiction is a complex subject. The two things everyone should quickly agree on are that it is an addiction and that it fucks up your lungs something fierce. The rest of the discussion ought to continue on one of the many smoking/quitting threads.

or to a thread where we talk about what the best cigarettes are

we serve all interests here on ilx

I think people like nat shermans xp

Ok, back to rolling nytimes quid/ag: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/29/fashion/its-not-me-its-you-how-to-end-a-friendship.html

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/01/29/fashion/29JPFRIENDS2/29JPFRIENDS2-articleInline.jpg
Jeff Newelt “had other plans” when ex-colleagues called.

During that call, Ms. Miller knew it was time to administer the friendship equivalent of the lethal injection. “I wish you love, joy, peace and happiness, but this friendship is over,” Ms. Miller recalled saying. “I said goodbye and hung the phone up. I met another friend for drinks that night and honestly, I was sad. I divorced a friend.”

Getting a quote from a friendship coach makes that seem even troll-ier than the usual Style shit.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/02/fashion/lisbeth-salander-bringing-back-leather-and-spikes.html
oy.

“Corruption offends her,” Ms. Leach observed, “and the desire to set things right is what motivates her.” She’s taking names and delivering payback. And, Ms. Leach said, “she’s not about to do that in a pair of Miu Miu shoes.”

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/02/02/fashion/02GOTHIC_SPAN/02GOTHIC_SPAN-articleLarge.jpg

oh hi

iatee otm about welfare earlier itt

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/05/fashion/in-silicon-valley-socks-make-the-tech-entrepreneur.html

“I have been in meetings where people look down and notice my socks, and there is this universal sign, almost like a gang sign, where they nod and pull up their pant leg a little to show off their socks,” said Hunter Walk, 38, a director of product management at YouTube, whose favorite pair is yellow, aqua and orange striped.

ALMOST LIKE A GANG SIGN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ux3vncNNLg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV79WaNDY1Y

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2012/01/21/145521431/how-one-former-vegan-learned-to-embrace-butchering

For lack of a better thread, I guess.

By killing the animal himself, Plotsky says he strengthens his bond to that animal, as well as the food it provides, the ground it lived on, and the family and friends he shares the meal with.

i think a saw a serial killer say that once in a movie to one of his victims.

http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/2/23336/1558924-kenobi_vs_vader.jpg

killing me will only make our friendship bond stronger

convoluted way of saying he likes meat more than animals.

no no no dude didn't you read it's about community

surprised they don't do the slaughtering in the town square in a gazebo to make sure everyone can bond with the pig

is that what gazebos are for

shockinkingly vegans and exvegan artisanal butchers have their heads roughly the same depth up their own asses

"I wanted to be a part of that process," he says. "Somehow, that manifested in pig slaughter."

the number of times ive said this to myself

naw, that's where the brass band will play Sousa's "liberty bell march" while Plotsky slaughters and guts his pigs in front of it and the onlooking crowd.

inevitably I knew I had to cut it out w/all the coke

http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/162/average-time-spent-at-job-4-years

Maybe unfair, but I lol at every inspirational young person story that starts along the lines of "boosted by a $10,000 stake from his parents."

Yeah I think that's a little unfair. I can't get the article to load, but $10K is an amount a fair number of ordinary middle class parents could hypothetically put up from savings, and it's not exactly a game-changing amount (for what I'm guessing is some kind of small business startup?). I mean is success not real unless it's achieved by an ex crack addict who sold his own hair and blood for the startup money?

$10K is an amount a fair number of ordinary middle class parents could hypothetically put up from savings

Ehhhhhhhh I would not be so sure of that anymore. I doubt that even most middle class families have $10k of easily liquidatable household wealth sitting around anymore. Not given the 3-4 decade trends in income and wage stagnation.

xpost. Well, there are way more degrees between having been born lucky and being a crackhead. The problem is, if the line for success is drawn starkly between the lucky and the less lucky in their birth, it makes that upward climb that much harder.

Personal experience, I had to teach myself how to live and work from the ground up, climbing mountains to start at 0, so anyone with a half-decent upbringing has an advantage there. I've done better than most relatively, but the fact that standards these days are incredibly high, requiring money, free-time, and large skill sets taught at home, it puts people who aren't born with them at a stark disadvantage v. an increasingly powerful and small few who do get these advantages. And they're trumpeted as the examples to follow.

Ten THOUSAND dollars?!?? Easily available to "middle-class" families to give away to one or more children? Not in anything resembling my experience. Plus multiply by number of children, hypothetically, because you can't help only one of them.

I mean who cares how much money this dude's parents have, the bigger problem is treating 'people be having lots of jobs' as this fun adventure that they're willingly having

lol, this is america, "middle class" means whatever you want it to. there are lots of ostensibly middle class people who spend way more than $10k educating their kids. there are lots for whom a spare $10k is never going to happen.