Rolling Dancehall & Reggae 2012

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Monkey Barrel is crazy--Ward 21 are really pushing into some bizarre and intriguing territory. I hadn't heard that Timberlee, but I think that's my favorite version so far.

will listen to the others after I finish this typically stomping Aidonia track:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLeRVwfeL8A&feature=related

rob, Monday, 30 January 2012 01:51 (twelve years ago) link

Borrow Clothes is nice, also liked Suku's "Now" on that rhythm, speaking of Ward 21.

what do you all think of Popcaan's new one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCcC3-VMH_M&feature=related

It's growing on me.

rob, Monday, 30 January 2012 02:19 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FU3qhoP9_X8&feature=related

Bacchanalist's growing on me. Strong contender for Road March, i'd think.

Mohombi Khush Hua (ShariVari), Thursday, 2 February 2012 21:56 (twelve years ago) link

lot of great youtubes posted lately! monkey barrel is really cool. like the popcaan but slightly prefer the masicka on the same riddim, some good double-time singing in the verses iirc.

been enjoying the shurwayne and antilles riddim tracks too. soca's a bit harder to find but the tracks i've heard are really catchy

chilli, Thursday, 2 February 2012 23:02 (twelve years ago) link

new party shot video out, a little too blatantly misogynist even for a music video but visuals are pretty rare for dancehall so w/e
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrZnDJCi24s

chilli, Sunday, 5 February 2012 00:51 (twelve years ago) link

liking a lot of stuff on Priceless Signature:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbPnuAMoC1g

Definitely check out Lady Saw and Lisa Hyper's tracks too if you haven't heard them already (riddim originally came out in November, but I think ^this is new)

rob, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 02:14 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7ztGwRQbw4

Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 19:54 (twelve years ago) link

Lengthy article on Buju Banton's arrest and incarceration: http://www.miaminewtimes.com/content/printVersion/3191909/. I was aware there were doubts about this case, but the article lays out a convincing case he's completely innocent.

rob, Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link

three weeks pass...

lot of great singles these days, but aidonia's "lala-land" is just fantastic. such a cool strained flow on that track

chilli, Thursday, 1 March 2012 23:51 (twelve years ago) link

name names! I don't know that I've heard anything in 2012 yet that I've been blown away by, though here are some recent songs that I've dug:
Agent Sasco/Assassin "Hot": http://youtu.be/Z9NbzypomEY
Konshens "Gun Shot a Fire": http://youtu.be/kgiukYNLZnY

rob, Friday, 2 March 2012 02:40 (twelve years ago) link

^^ could you point some of these? and maybe some riddims?

really gotta catch up with this thread. the lack of attention makes me feel like 2012 hasn´t started for dancehall yet...(and surely i'm missing a lot)

rusty_allen, Friday, 2 March 2012 02:43 (twelve years ago) link

Konshens - Bun Satan

Tim F, Friday, 2 March 2012 02:45 (twelve years ago) link

i wasn't totally sold on that^ at first, but holy crap does it build up in the last minute

rob, Friday, 2 March 2012 02:52 (twelve years ago) link

riva stone riddim is my fave so far this year

j'ouvert riddim (khago - peppery) and hot chocolate riddim (tifa - wipe mi up) are awesome as well

2012 has been pretty good so far! I think there's a lot of interesting stuff going on in dancehall right now, working on something about that actually

Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Friday, 2 March 2012 02:57 (twelve years ago) link

ok, that Tifa is really nice! realizing I was underrating the year because I hadn't really paid much attention for the past few weeks...

rob, Friday, 2 March 2012 03:06 (twelve years ago) link

add welding to that jouvert riddim list. other riddims i'm loving so far this year are riva stone and worldwide. that choral-sounding girl in riva stone is such a great touch

chilli, Friday, 2 March 2012 08:20 (twelve years ago) link

oh and this is an awesome dancehall/country track! better than it sounds:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNT6WhVtLyY

chilli, Friday, 2 March 2012 09:12 (twelve years ago) link

this mix from The Large is great

resisting the urge to post a bunch of individual tracks from that (though lots will be familiar if you've been following this thread). do check out Schlachthofbronx & Warrior Queen's filthy Dickie Riddim (http://youtu.be/6yCdwY6nJZo) and Cham & O's only slightly less sleazy Tun Up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx1H-Emnw-A

rob, Sunday, 4 March 2012 20:42 (twelve years ago) link

^^ produced by dave kelly...first riddim since 'overdrive' perhaps? does anyone know the name? (it's the same as 'hot', posted above)

also enjoying the hipnotic grittyness of the 'hot water riddim' at the moment.

rusty_allen, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:25 (twelve years ago) link

I really LOVE the instrumental/version of the hot water riddim but none of the songs on it are really grabbing me. macka diamond's "nah fail" is prob the best one, or liquid's "dah wine deh"

Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:27 (twelve years ago) link

^^ that's what i'm feeling too. macka diamond is prob my fav, so far. but what i really wanted was a konshens version...

rusty_allen, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:32 (twelve years ago) link

xp
I *think* it's called Ice Cream: http://youtu.be/1wmBvxoDrNY.

rob, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:34 (twelve years ago) link

^not so sure about that tbh, but you are both otm about Hot Water

rob, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:43 (twelve years ago) link

yeah hot water is fantastic but i'm actually leaning towards sizzla's version despite the terrible lyrical content. none of the other performers capture the angry spirit of the riddim i guess. ice cream's good too, but older and def. a different riddim. iirc it was produced by swedish producer adde instrumentals, the same guy behind the huge "summer time" riddim

chilli, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:26 (twelve years ago) link

when I looked up hot water on youtube, I was like "oh sizzla is on this, I bet this one is the best" and then that condemnation of same-sex marriage happened. I can sometimes overlook or, even more likely, miss (i had forgotten what "fish" meant when I posted that Bounty Killer track upthread) homophobic stuff in dancehall, but I couldn't get past that opening declaration. I agree about the anger though, would like to hear Aidonia on that one.

rob, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:52 (twelve years ago) link

that Dave Kelly riddim is officially called Tun Up Tun Up btw

came around to quite like Zj Liquid and Wayne Wonder on Hot Water

rob, Saturday, 17 March 2012 01:02 (twelve years ago) link

also, Konshens is having the year I thought Popcaan was going to have:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mdf_B0unM8

rob, Saturday, 17 March 2012 01:10 (twelve years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/NOAS5.png
lol this pic (also im somewhat amused that i got the imgur URL NOAS5.png)

chilli, Monday, 19 March 2012 02:49 (twelve years ago) link

more on topic the taranchyla song on hot water is interesting, some crazy autotune alien vocals on there

chilli, Monday, 19 March 2012 02:52 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKyRyffEEmo

second verse of this is pretty mind-blowing. lot of good tracks on this riddim (octane, busy, anthony b etc.)

chilli, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 08:13 (twelve years ago) link

good stuff! there seems to be a bonanza of these minimalist riddims this year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUmOYum3tIQ

rob, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 23:56 (twelve years ago) link

xp : never really cared that much for capleton, tbh (dunno why...prob too histrionic?), but yeah 'the return' is great.

rusty_allen, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 00:17 (twelve years ago) link

the #TNS riddim is incredible, so many great voicings on this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_Lo0OeXXqo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONRwk8XQ5ko

also feeling the Wet Up riddim a lot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZHKfDsWqFY

also, not to be all self-promoting and stuff but i wrote this and would like you guys' opinions - http://www.theclustermag.com/blog/2012/03/life-after-vybz/

Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Friday, 30 March 2012 16:13 (twelve years ago) link

still reading, but what riddim comes on after Hot Water in the mix?

rob, Friday, 30 March 2012 16:28 (twelve years ago) link

Disorda riddim

Peace (peaceful) (The Brainwasher), Friday, 30 March 2012 16:30 (twelve years ago) link

ty, I like that a lot and had missed it

really nice piece and pretty thoroughly otm throughout. I don't think Tomahawk Technique was ever mentioned here, but ugh is it bad. Still waiting for Popcaan to do something as great this year as last--not really feeling that TNS track, but I think I just don't really love the riddim--but I didn't realize he was so young. Definitely agree that Lady Saw is having a shockingly great run right now. And yeah, everyone is right about Riva Stone.

rob, Friday, 30 March 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link

really digging this

konshens - so mi tan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21AgmUWVPLo

J0rdan S., Sunday, 1 April 2012 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, that's excellent. I've lost count of solid Konshens tracks this year, dude is spoiling us and I never even bothered listening to his album. though I guess that riddim is from 2010 according to a (less good) Agent Sasco youtube I found.

rob, Sunday, 1 April 2012 22:17 (twelve years ago) link

Great article brainwasher!

Tim F, Sunday, 1 April 2012 22:29 (twelve years ago) link

also i f/ with all of these tunes.

Tim F, Sunday, 1 April 2012 22:29 (twelve years ago) link

the Love Bug riddim is a nice bit of summery warmth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-r0GxYZl_U

rob, Thursday, 5 April 2012 02:29 (twelve years ago) link

awesome to see Cluster publishing all these ilxors writing about dancehall. Erin Macleod on sound clashes: http://theclustermag.com/blog/2012/04/sound-clash-ressurection/.

rob, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 01:02 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9ko-MR8MsM&fmt=18

gorgeous

uberweiss, Monday, 16 April 2012 23:33 (twelve years ago) link

I-Octane making a grab for populist summer anthem status here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk1uEn7bmpE&feature=relmfu

xpost, always excited to check out Toi

rob, Monday, 16 April 2012 23:45 (twelve years ago) link

Toi's gentle breeze voice is the perfect vehicle for a love=being stoned metaphor isn't it?

rob, Monday, 16 April 2012 23:49 (twelve years ago) link

i'd love to have some of the dancehall cru join us for dancehall monday on turntable.fm: Link

to contribute, new track from demarco, apparently a popcaan diss (lol):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifw_UrwazXU

chilli, Monday, 23 April 2012 22:07 (eleven years ago) link

can't really do stuff like turntable.fm at work unfortunately. this thread bump reminds me I've been meaning to ask what everyone thinks of Potential Kidd's A Yuh So Nice which the internet tells me is very big in JA:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o8GuRP8p28

rob, Monday, 23 April 2012 23:11 (eleven years ago) link

i couldn't stand it at first, but that potential kidd is really good! a really different sound then most of the genre these days as well. though the part where he says he'd rather be a rapist than gay is somewhat offputting.

chilli, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 22:25 (eleven years ago) link

:/ christ, I didn't even notice that. otoh, i have to agree that it's initially very grating, which is probably why I didn't parse the lyrics

been thinking about bumping this thread just to double down on the 3 posts prior to potential kidd. the LoveBug riddim might be my favorite so far this year, at least in the sense of enjoying version after version. Washroom have smartly kept most of them at around the 2:00 mark, so it pretty much demands full-riddim mix treatment. The Toi is wonderful and the I-Octane is pleasantly reminiscent of Overproof from last year.

rob, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 01:11 (eleven years ago) link

Love that Toi track!

MikoMcha, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 06:50 (eleven years ago) link

more Konshens tunes tunes tunes tunes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0Nrc4JDBQQ

rob, Saturday, 15 December 2012 04:43 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.afropop.org/wp/6432/running-down-the-year-part-1/

Someone named Sax*n Baird at afropop worldwide lists some of his fave caribbean tunes for 2012:

Machel Montano – Go Down (Loudspeaker Riddim)

Popcaan – “When Mi Party” (Summer Wave Riddim

Vybz Kartel – ” R U Ready” Ft Stylysh (Buss Up Riddim)

Tnght Riddim – The Heatwave Refix Featuring Mr. Lexx & Nikisha

he also likes Montreal dj Poirier – Soca Road EP

curmudgeon, Saturday, 15 December 2012 18:20 (eleven years ago) link

thanks curmudgeon--please post more lists if you find them. I haven't seen any yet. Last year I made a few friends a playlist of my favorite dancehall from the year, so I'll probably post that list here soon and nominate a bunch of it to the ILM poll. Would love to see anyone who reads this thread's lists too--top 5 or whatever.

That Montano track has shown up on at least one other list I saw. My girly taste means I like Natalie Storm ("Rock the Runway") on Loudspeaker and Gaza Slim ("Independent Ladies" raved about a bit upthread) on Summer Wave more.

rob, Saturday, 15 December 2012 18:47 (eleven years ago) link

"Kartel may be in jail awaiting trial, but that hasn’t stopped him from dropping a few singles."

lol

rob, Saturday, 15 December 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link

love this thread, rob (and indeed others who post regularly) - gave me one of my top five? top three? songs of the year - Psycho by Tommy Lee, also Vybz Kartel Lip Gloss, very highly placed in my year-end tunes.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 21:39 (eleven years ago) link

interesting to hear your love for Psycho! Tommy Lee really should have come up more itt--he seems like basically the biggest thing to happen in JA music this year, for better or worse. While horrorcore dancehall isn't a thing I would have thought I would enjoy, I have come to like Pyscho too, though after hitting a run of his tracks where he seemed to be trying to expand his repertoire unsuccessfully, I stopped paying attention. Until the other night when I checked out "Shook" and "Uncle Demon" which are both pretty great and in the same vein as "Psycho." Also, dude gets credit for making some genuinely disturbing videos (as well as inspiring the video for "Why Yuh Mad").

rob, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

Well I'm a sucker for supernatural vengeance, which, added to that incredible delivery, made it a song totally impossible to resist for me. 'Sparta send some cyanide and 'bout two drum a gunpowder' is a line that's been in my head loads this year - 'unhinged' was the word I think you used - good word for it. Will check out those other two. Haven't really been keeping up with... anything really, so was good to go through a load of recs on this thread this eve.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 22:00 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, I love that "cyanide" line too: a weirdly refreshing change of pace from gunman lyrics.

There's probably a really good essay to write about how Lee's use of Jamaican/Caribbean folklore about the undead (duppies, Haitian zombies, demons, etc). If nothing else, the youtube comments for his videos are always interesting--I have no special knowledge of JA culture, but Lee does seem to be pressing some buttons in genuinely shocking ways, not unlike Vybz Kartel's skin-bleaching but easier to stomach from a US perspective.

rob, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 22:09 (eleven years ago) link

And he's got a new one out. Surprised to find myself really into the second half. Swerves from horrorcore to goth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip3IQ6cbduM

rob, Friday, 21 December 2012 03:25 (eleven years ago) link

cheers rob. yeah i was thinking about Psycho - there's something about that attenuated bo diddley beat and the claustrophobia of a community populated with ghosts and duppy and zombies and general fear that makes it very atmospheric. didn't really realise Jamaican horrorcore was a thing - is there anyone else aside from Tommy Lee doing it? Oh yeah, it's just got to the second half in that vid - that's great! Like you say, it makes a change from gun stuff - and with the supernatural so close it feels a bit more vulnerable, man diddling about with powers that will kill him for temporary gang supremacy/survival - like another favourite line from Psycho 'Mmm, duppy worst thing you can see, dem send duppy for me'.

And yes, continuation of the whole duppy/supernatural strand in reggae is interesting.

Fizzles, Friday, 21 December 2012 05:46 (eleven years ago) link

LargeUp's Top 10 tracks of the year (their album list is awful):
1. Konshens -- "Gal a Bubble"
2. Mavado -- "Cyaa Hold Me Again"
3/4. Cham -- "Tun Up"/"Lawless"
5. Popcaan -- "The System"
6. Potential Kidd -- "Yah Suh Nice"
7. RDX -- "Jump"
8. Konshens -- "So Mi Tan"
9. Tommy Lee -- "Psycho"
10. Bounty Killer & Cecile -- "Ride"

Honorable mentions:
Mr. Vegas -- "Bruk It Down" and "Party Tun Up"
Busy Signal -- “Kingston Town,” “Come Shock Out” and “Artiste”

http://largeup.okayplayer.com/2012/12/21/toppa-top-10-the-best-dancehall-singles-of-2012/

Great list, though definitely too male-dominated--I have 3 Tifa songs alone on my 2012 favorites playlist. I hadn't caught that Mavado/Di Genius tune (came out last December apparently), and I've been ignoring Busy's new roots album but that Kingston Town song is niiice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cHCDW60cIM

rob, Sunday, 23 December 2012 00:09 (eleven years ago) link

I checked out "Shook" and "Uncle Demon" which are both pretty great and in the same vein as "Psycho."

ha, those are actually the same song. I think I meant "Goat Head" though it's << "Uncle Demon/Shook" and "Psycho"

didn't really realise Jamaican horrorcore was a thing - is there anyone else aside from Tommy Lee doing it?

I'm not aware of anyone mining the same territory as Tommy Lee. After listening to a bunch of his stuff over the past couple of days because of your posts, I'm hoping he's got good management that can steer him well. I almost never like hearing him on a riddim that has lots of other versions--he really benefits from tracks that are as chilly and warped as his lyrics. It could be comparable to the way Cham has made such a big impact this year by sticking to a very particular style of riddim, or, as more of a cautionary tale, how Mavado pretty much only sounded good working with Di Genius.

rob, Sunday, 23 December 2012 02:41 (eleven years ago) link

Buss a Blank also worth your time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qaml2SbnPI

rob, Sunday, 23 December 2012 02:48 (eleven years ago) link

new thread, all welcome: rolling dancehall & reggae 2013

rob, Friday, 4 January 2013 02:42 (eleven years ago) link


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